More interesting would be, why didn't CCFC ( Otium ) ask for 5 and 5 instead of 2 plus 2? They were certainly being optimistic in thinking they would get a stadium together in under 4 years. At 100000 a year rent they could even afford to pay off the contract ( write off the money ) , and leave should they complete a multi million stadium to their benefit in a shorter space of time.
Let slip? Why shouldn't ACL have been talking to other parties? The stadium was empty, what were ACL suppose to do? Twiddle their thumbs or begged to CCFC came back? SISU had moved them to Northampton for three years whilst a new stadium was being built don't forget!
Exactly. There is a break clause in favour of ACL after the 2 plus 2.
For years I have been branded a blatant sisu-lover, but I don't think I have defended any of their actions with such determination you show here. It almost seems personal to you.
You ask what ACL were supposed to do? How about invite the club to buy the stadium at the same conditions Wasps got?
More interesting would be, why didn't CCFC ( Otium ) ask for 5 and 5 instead of 2 plus 2?
Not after the 2 + 2 after the initial 2 which means at the end of this season Wasps can kick is out.
So basically all guess work and assumption on your behalf?
Remember at the time the line from the ACL / CCC side was that this was the beginning of rebuilding the relationship with a view to the club owning the ground in the future, while in reality they knew they had already agreed to sell it to Wasps.
And therein lies the exact problem.... we shouldn't be making money for Wasps.
For years I have been branded a blatant sisu-lover, but I don't think I have defended any of their actions with such determination you show here. It almost seems personal to you.
You ask what ACL were supposed to do? How about invite the club to buy the stadium at the same conditions Wasps got?
"Talking about" and being involved in fine details are two different things. So saying they were talking isn't an Addition that they were saying how long CCFC could sign up for.
If that had have happened do you believe that SISU would have snapped their hands off?
In a nutshell, majority think SISU wont be building a new stadium.
Some hope Wasps go, and we get the Ricoh. Some dont. There is some discussion on Wasps feasibility.
Hope that helps.
For years I have been branded a blatant sisu-lover, but I don't think I have defended any of their actions with such determination you show here. It almost seems personal to you.
You ask what ACL were supposed to do? How about invite the club to buy the stadium at the same conditions Wasps got?
Not after the 2 + 2 after the initial 2 which means at the end of this season Wasps can kick is out.
I have been looking for that reference for ages, obviously not hard enough, so thanks for that.
Yes, definitely.
Thanks for that. I'm sure that ACL ignored any prospect of Wasps talking over in the negotiations.
Just going on my experience, the only people I know who knew/cared are those who have made an effort to follow the tournament.
It was a shock and big story in the rugby world not the entire world as you are trying to make out.
Why should ACL have extended the olive branch? SISU had left them out of pocket due to the rent strike and then stropped off to Northampton.
How do you know that ACL were informed of the takeover? Just out of interest.
I have been looking for that reference for ages, obviously not hard enough, so thanks for that.
Townsend didn't give much time to allowing trust to be rebuilt, did he. Six weeks later approval was given for wasp's to take over acl. He must have known about the deal being discussed. That seems dishonest and yet so few people have picked up on it.
Wasp Plants? I think you're making that up and I'm sure there's no such thing.If an outsider read this forum they would genuinely think we have been infiltrated by wasp plants
If an outsider read this forum they would genuinely think we have been infiltrated by wasp plants
They are. They could have grown a pair of scruples.More likely CCC plants. Wasps are not really to blame.
Unfortunately Tim had in the meantime confirmed that they ( Otium ) were building their own stadium. It would have been more questionable if Tim had confirmed building up trust as a way to maybe making an offer for the Ricoh. Maybe offering to drop the JR in return for a good deal would have been a good way out for all concerned ( except, of course, Wasps ).
He's not a "fanboy" apparently.
I will have to find the quote either Derek Richardson or Nick Eastwood referenced talks with ACL that pre-date August 2014.
Do you think that this deal, including all the legal ramifications, was made in a 6 week period? When the fundamentals of what Wasps were purchasing were subject to change?
More likely CCC plants. Wasps are not really to blame.
In his first interview Eastwood said the process had been in motion for more than two years. If that is the case, it would place the first talks around the time ACL decided to abandon the 'roadmap' and proceed to YB alone.
Who was it on here that repeatedly warned us the club was not the only show in town?
To avoid the current uncertain situation and the future prospect of losing the club (who create jobs and bring revenue to local businesses)?
I will have to find the quote either Derek Richardson or Nick Eastwood referenced talks with ACL that pre-date August 2014.
Do you think that this deal, including all the legal ramifications, was made in a 6 week period? When the fundamentals of what Wasps were purchasing were subject to change?
So I'm a fanboi as I recognise our owners are useless, have no intention of building a stadium and should get round the table with Wasps and agree the best deal for all involved?
Maybe I should just cross my fingers and hope Wasps go out of business in five years?
Why should anything be predicated on dropping the JR? What sort of public authority would blackmail like that?
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