Moff
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Because as past history show, attendances will drop off again after the World Cup fades i memory. This is at most clubs, not just Wasps.
Forget any World Cup boost? Why? .
One thing I don't understand is why some feel the need to defend them and deflect away any negativity?
I don't remember Northampton fans doing the same when we were there. They are a franchise and always will be; they'll never be as big as CCFC.
Because as past history show, attendances will drop off again after the World Cup fades i memory. This is at most clubs, not just Wasps.
Because as past history show, attendances will drop off again after the World Cup fades i memory. This is at most clubs, not just Wasps.
But to dismiss it is nonsensical. The original point stated was that Wasps attendance figures have peaked. The WC could bring in people who stick around after any initial increase. Not will, could. If this were the case, the peak would rise, not fall.
Agreed - any world cup interest in Japan - is like how we all become curling fans in the winter olympics
You sure you don't work for wasps?
Like after most World Cups there will be a spike, and then a drop.
It will be inetersting to see how Wasps attendances pan out, once the quota of free tickets drops.
Like after most World Cups there will be a spike, and then a drop.
It will be inetersting to see how Wasps attendances pan out, once the quota of free tickets drops.
But to dismiss it is nonsensical. The original point stated was that Wasps attendance figures have peaked. The WC could bring in people who stick around after any initial increase. Not will, could. If this were the case, the peak would rise, not fall.
'Free tickets' and various marketing giveaways haven't done the likes of Derby County, Norwich and more recently Bradford any harm.
Sometimes the 'free' element is to the person going to the match, in some cases a company has paid for it. I should know I've been going to certain team's matches for years on a company season ticket and spent nothing on entrance, I did spend it on food, drinks and merchandise though.
SISU will not be building a stadium, so they just have to learn to be nice to Wasps I suppose.
Cannot be bothered to read the whole thread but thought this was a discussion about the New Stadium deadline (again) in December?
In a nutshell, majority think SISU wont be building a new stadium.
Some hope Wasps go, and we get the Ricoh. Some dont. There is some discussion on Wasps feasibility.
Hope that helps.
The difference would be if you were a football fan from Coventry you would have grown up either supporting us or, as you say, one of the big Premier League teams. Surely the same applies here, if you were a rugby fan from Coventry wouldn't you have grown up either supporting CRFC or, if as you say, people prefer to support a top level team then Leicester or Northampton.
The frustration is that people who have shown zero interest in either their local team or rugby in general are now flocking to the Ricoh in their thousands supporting a team dropped in from 85 miles away.
If for some reason Crystal Palace were suddenly moved to Coventry would you expect people to stop supporting us a become Palace supporters instead? Personally I'd be a bit pissed off if we were playing to 10K and Palace rocked up and got double that.
Would you be saying the same if we moved back to Northampton? Would you expect their fans to have the same attitude if we did?
Wasn't their a petition when they moved to Coventry? I work with a couple of ex-wasps fans who turned their backs on the club after they moved.
If that is your attitude to the situation, then you have no right to complain of we become a franchise ourselves then, especially if it offers to take us to the next level.
I'm not so sure, if you aren't a rugby fan you'd have little idea its even on at the moment.
In 5-10 years I can't see them being as successful as they like to think, hopefully they'll be in massive financial trouble and finally leave the city.
I think everyone hopes wasps go and we can gain control of the Ricoh. Some can't see that happening and have given reasons why and some who can't accept that are trying to make out that some don't want wasps to go and we gain control of the Ricoh would be more accurate.
Anyway about our new stadium...
Honest question, as it's a point I've seen raised a couple of times but I've not seen the detail around it explained.
If Wasps did leave and the ground end up under the control of SISU/Optium/CCFC, how could CCFC make it work if Wasps couldn't?
Honest question, as it's a point I've seen raised a couple of times but I've not seen the detail around it explained.
If Wasps did leave and the ground end up under the control of SISU/Optium/CCFC, how could CCFC make it work if Wasps couldn't?
I still don't understand the logic of hoping the Ricoh does so badly that Wasps fold, then we take it over. Surely if a Prem rugby team with 15k+ gates can't keep it open a L1 team couldn't? Maybe if we go up this year and are pulling in similar crowds, but we'd need significantly more if we were to make a go of something Wasps couldn't.
This was always the problem. As it stands the club can't afford the Ricoh and need either someone to shoulder the burden with or a cheaper arena.
Which brings us precisely back to where we were 3 years ago.
The desire for Wasps to fail just seems like sour grapes to me.
Rather that dicking around they just cracked on, made an acceptable bid and took over.
Some seem to think the stadium should have been handed to CCFC on a plate and there was a underhand plot to ensure this never happened.
The fact SISU had moved the club to Northampton for three years and Fisher continually spoke about the intention to build a new stadium seems to be brushed under the carpet.
The details of the deal being kept 'secret' also has been used as further indication of this plot, but again the fact the details of the agreement SISU made for CCFC to return have never been disclosed seems to be ignored.
The fact the vast majority of people don't believe a new stadium will be built just shows the bigger problem with SISU. They need to stop all the hot air and sit around the table with Wasps and come to the best workable solution for all parties.
I think the response to the Japan game proves that non-rugby fans are watching and fully aware of the WC.
Why would them being in financial trouble mean they have to leave the city? Lots of sporting teams are in the red, but don't up sticks and move away.
The desire for Wasps to fail just seems like sour grapes to me.
Rather that dicking around they just cracked on, made an acceptable bid and took over.
Some seem to think the stadium should have been handed to CCFC on a plate and there was a underhand plot to ensure this never happened.
The fact SISU had moved the club to Northampton for three years and Fisher continually spoke about the intention to build a new stadium seems to be brushed under the carpet.
The details of the deal being kept 'secret' also has been used as further indication of this plot, but again the fact the details of the agreement SISU made for CCFC to return have never been disclosed seems to be ignored.
The fact the vast majority of people don't believe a new stadium will be built just shows the bigger problem with SISU. They need to stop all the hot air and sit around the table with Wasps and come to the best workable solution for all parties.
Unless your following the tournament I think alot of people don't even know about the Japan match, then if they do I doubt they even care.
Sure it may have shocked and amazed people who care about the tournament but that is a minority reaction.
Slight exaggeration!
The desire for Wasps to fail just seems like sour grapes to me.
Rather that dicking around they just cracked on, made an acceptable bid and took over.
Some seem to think the stadium should have been handed to CCFC on a plate and there was a underhand plot to ensure this never happened.
The fact SISU had moved the club to Northampton for three years and Fisher continually spoke about the intention to build a new stadium seems to be brushed under the carpet.
The details of the deal being kept 'secret' also has been used as further indication of this plot, but again the fact the details of the agreement SISU made for CCFC to return have never been disclosed seems to be ignored.
The fact the vast majority of people don't believe a new stadium will be built just shows the bigger problem with SISU. They need to stop all the hot air and sit around the table with Wasps and come to the best workable solution for all parties.
I still don't understand the logic of hoping the Ricoh does so badly that Wasps fold, then we take it over. Surely if a Prem rugby team with 15k+ gates can't keep it open a L1 team couldn't? Maybe if we go up this year and are pulling in similar crowds, but we'd need significantly more if we were to make a go of something Wasps couldn't.
This was always the problem. As it stands the club can't afford the Ricoh and need either someone to shoulder the burden with or a cheaper arena.
Which brings us precisely back to where we were 3 years ago.
Slight exaggeration!
Some people don't see everything through sky blue tinted glasses.
They'll never be as big as CCFC? Remind me again how big Sky Blues are again! Third division football and drawing in 11,000 fans from a city of 333,000 (edit) in somebody else's stadium.
Have they imposed the right to terminate the club in 2 years? Or was it made before they came? Or have you just made it up that they imposed the right to terminate? The club moved to Northampton for up to 3 years in order to build the new stadium ( " site to be announced in three weeks " ). After the intervention of the bishop ( FFS ) they came back earlier to rent the stadium which they were never going to do.
I still don't understand the logic of hoping the Ricoh does so badly that Wasps fold, then we take it over. Surely if a Prem rugby team with 15k+ gates can't keep it open a L1 team couldn't? Maybe if we go up this year and are pulling in similar crowds, but we'd need significantly more if we were to make a go of something Wasps couldn't.
This was always the problem. As it stands the club can't afford the Ricoh and need either someone to shoulder the burden with or a cheaper arena.
Which brings us precisely back to where we were 3 years ago.
Nope, that was the plan and public pronouncement. Not only that Fisher said CCFC would never play at the Ricoh again. Both assertions were bollocks!
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