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David McGoldrick off to Ipswich (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jan 4, 2013
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Bad Boy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #141
Just watch his form dip.

The formula was right with us.
 

ccfctommy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #142
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
I hope he is llike 7th choice, and we get promoted with Clarke topping the goal scoring tables, so he regrets not signing for CCFC.

Hopefully he doesn't do well and maybe we could sign him after his loan spell maybe?
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Bitter much?
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #143
fucking pathetic some of you guys

he was a loan player and hes chosen a team in a better league

and you turn on him after 18 goals in 3-4 months

crazy
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #144
ccfctommy said:
Absolute bollocks. Were a third division club. There is no way we can afford ten grand a week. Ever heard of financial fair play?
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I tried to educate some with this one earlier, but it fell on deaf ears. It's 65% of turnover this season I believe.

But some folk thought our rent levels had a bearing on this. Tsk...
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #145
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
I tried to educate some with this one earlier, but it fell on deaf ears. It's 65% of turnover this season I believe.

But some folk thought our rent levels had a bearing on this. Tsk...
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Our rent doesn't effect the maximum amount we can spend on wages under the fair play rulings but surely it would effect weather we could reach that maximum amount?

If we were say 20k under the maximum allowed wages that financial fair play allows us, that is rougly 1 million for the year. If SISU started paying the 1.2 million rent again rather than 300-350k then that 20k per week would likely go on the rent instead of the playing squad?
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #146
Sorry guys, but I haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if this has already been put up................

http://www.itfc.co.uk/news/article/boss-delighted-to-land-duo-578720.aspx
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #147
The team wont be built around him at ipswich because they have better players than us.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #148
"The chance to come and play for a Club of Ipswich’s size and under a manager like Mick McCarthy was something that I just couldn’t turn down"

A club of Ipswich's size? Don't all new sigings say that about any club they join?
 

oakey

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #149
Can I take issue with the assertion that we would all leave our job for a pay rise. If you are already on good money, spare cash to spend, successful and well liked at work many would stay put. I, for one, would not change jobs as I am 5 minutes from workplace, settled and successful. If I moved for more money I would have more to lose than I would gain.
Chances are Goldie will look back at his time here as the golden spell in a career of mediocrity. Still, it's his choice and I have no hard feelings towards him ... He's just a footballer.
 

kg82

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  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #150
CovMatt1987 said:
Teach them that in a very high majority of the cases, if a player has a chance to choose a team higher then us, or earn more money, he will take it and wave us goodbye. Im not saying it in some aggressive 'well that'll teach you' manner you know!

Alot of fans from what they are posting or what ive heard seem a bit gutted by this, even up until today. I remember accepting he was going after the loan after I watched him score the goal against Leyton Orient, some time in October. So it doesnt hurt as much, what with expecting it and all.
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Normally when I say "that'll teach so and so" it's meant in that way! So thanks for clearing it up!
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #151
He is too good for L1 and if he stayed with us it doesn't guarantee him Championship footy next season.

He put himself in the shop window with us, got a Championship move on loan and the. Can join whoever he wants in summer.

Lets thank him for the goals and all the best to him.

Clarke will be a suitable replacement who is tied to us for a few years.
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #152
The King is dead... long live the King....
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #153
Haven't read all the threads bit i'll just say David McGoldrick has his whole future to take into account, i think if we had offered a deal to him he would have stayed, but for whatever reason we didn't, could be the badboys SISU or it could be Mark Robins has other ideas, don't rule that out. Will be interesting to see what happens next because aswell as Leon Clarke we now need another striker. Anyone slagging McGoldrick is a joker frankly, he was here for 3 or 4 months and did the business, that should be applauded..
 
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dadgad

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #154
Football is shit, played by greedy morons, watched by planks. No heroes anymore, no role models.
Actually it's just a mirror image of every other walk of life.
:-(
 

AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #155
Let him be remembered as probably the best loan player we have ever had!
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #156
rupert_bear said:
Haven't read all the threads bit i'll just say David McGoldrick has his whole future to take into account, i think if we had offered a deal to him he would have stayed, but for whatever reason we didn't, could be the badboys SISU or it could be Mark Robins has other ideas, don't rule that out. Will be interesting to see what happens next because aswell as Leon Clarke we now need another striker. Anyone slagging McGoldrick is a joker frankly, he was here for 3 or 4 months and did the business, that should be applauded..
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Who says we didn't offer him a deal?

Pretty sure Mcgoldrick said in one of his last interviews he has an offer from Coventry
 

WillieStanley

New Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #157
Of course, it could be that the "view to a permanent" has already been agreed between Forest and Ipswich. Perhaps that is what Forest were trying to broker with us, only for Ipswich to gazzump us? As with Clarke, the loan deal being smashed through just to speed up his eligability to play. Transfers with fees tend to take a while, and from the rumoursabout DMG and their 'keepers wife, it would make sense to do that just to keep him away from their training ground.
 

TheParsonsHose

Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #158
We create chances and lots of them now. We have secured the midfield so hopefully a good striker can finish them. Big boots to fill though for any striker so lets hope Leon is the man as we have not seen anything like DMG sinc Dublin IMO.

Good look to DMG and lets hope he gets the service to do what he clearly does best.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #159
ccfctommy said:
Bitter much?
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Not bitter, it's refreshing to see people, who think they've bettered themselves, fail.
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #160
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Not bitter, it's refreshing to see people, who think they've bettered themselves, fail.
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Why is it?

Also, that's basically a definition of bitterness.

Also also, he's only joined today, so your prediction of failure is slightly premature.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #161
kg82 said:
Why is it?

Also, that's basically a definition of bitterness.

Also also, he's only joined today, so your prediction of failure is slightly premature.
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I made a general statement regarding failure is refreshing when the person who thinks they're going places fail. More aimed at Westwood and Clingan (possibly Cranie).

I for one, think he'll be a failure at ITFC.

Don't get me wrong, if he does well, fair play to him, but I'd prefer if he does shit, and CCFC over take him. Surely that's what everyone wants!?
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #162
Why would I want him to fail? He's been amazing for us. It was a loan move, he's done his job and he's got a better move out of it. We've moved up the table. Job done for both sides. I want to overtake Ipswich, of course. I don't want McGoldrick to fail. I wish him all the best.
 

Chinny_Hill

New Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #163
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Not bitter, it's refreshing to see people, who think they've bettered themselves, fail.
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I love the irony of this statement. No I am not bitter, and then I'll define how I feel, which is Bitter.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #164
smileycov said:
Makes me laugh all the "He goes where the money is Shite"........Why shouldn't he get a decent deal for himself? They are Championship and Forest get a fee, They wouldnt give him to us free and i bet we couldn't even offer a half decent wage!

Was great loan player, scored good and plenty goals. Has helped put us in good posistion, i hope he continues doing well. But mostly, that Clarke picks up where he left and 2013 ends with success.
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I agree with your "follow the money" approach but the pre-amble full of lovely-dovey stuff for the fans & the club both old-hat & sickening. Those who are taken in by it are simply naive IMO. Never believe until you have the concrete proof!
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #165
kg82 said:
Why would I want him to fail? He's been amazing for us. It was a loan move, he's done his job and he's got a better move out of it. We've moved up the table. Job done for both sides. I want to overtake Ipswich, of course. I don't want McGoldrick to fail. I wish him all the best.
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Agree...done great for us & I wish him all the best.
 

sotv1987

Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #166
Why don't we just get over mcgoldrick and move on, he's done a great job for us, he deserves his move and we should thank him for his services, end of, nick, no more threads, it's done!!!! I'm sure Leon will be a suitable replacement!!!
 
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valiant15

New Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #167
Showing your age now sbt. You sound very immature.
 

ps1948

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #168
oakey said:
Can I take issue with the assertion that we would all leave our job for a pay rise. If you are already on good money, spare cash to spend, successful and well liked at work many would stay put. I, for one, would not change jobs as I am 5 minutes from workplace, settled and successful.
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Ask Kieran Westwood. Big house in Sunderland, and a nice comfy chair to watch Sunderland play every week, before going home to check his bank account

I too, don't begrudge him his move, and accept that it was always unlikely that he might stay - the only footballer I can instantly recall who stayed at a club because he loved them rather than move for more money was Steve Bull at Wolves
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #169
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
For starters, I said "probably".

I guess there would've been Saints fans, who at the time of his move to NFFC, said what you have just said.

McG has done well for himself at CCFC, but the team was built around him, or developed around him (either way), he isn't going to get that at ITFC, he might have to find himself coming off the bench to earn a starting place, or might be an unused sub quite often.

Thing is, he had to go to Ipswich, I hate Ipswich, them, the Welsh CCFC, Leicester, Villa I cannot stand! Hate them.
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Given that Ipswich are the anti-Norwich of this world I hope he scores a hatful.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #170
ps1948 said:
Ask Kieran Westwood. Big house in Sunderland, and a nice comfy chair to watch Sunderland play every week, before going home to check his bank account

I too, don't begrudge him his move, and accept that it was always unlikely that he might stay - the only footballer I can instantly recall who stayed at a club because he loved them rather than move for more money was Steve Bull at Wolves
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Matt Le Tissier too.
 

TheParsonsHose

Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #171
Has he moved on Loan or have they signed him on a long term deal?
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #172
TheParsonsHose said:
Has he moved on Loan or have they signed him on a long term deal?
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Loan with a view to a permanent deal?
 

TheParsonsHose

Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #173
Perhaps he would have been worth more as the leading top scorer of L1. That to himself in terms of future wages rather than moving now.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #174
kg82 said:
Why would I want him to fail? He's been amazing for us. It was a loan move, he's done his job and he's got a better move out of it. We've moved up the table. Job done for both sides. I want to overtake Ipswich, of course. I don't want McGoldrick to fail. I wish him all the best.
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ditto .
 

albatross

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2013
  • #175
I think DMG was fantastic for us and was the in the goal scoring form of his life. I think we sould be thankful that we had him when we did.

That said I do find his decision a little puzzling and think there is more to this than meets the eye.
The reason
1) With CCFC he was in the form of his life and probably attracting attention
2) He can sign a pre contact with any club today but went to Ipswich on loan (Why?)
3) Very few strikers of 24/25 yrs of age that are successful in the lower leagues will take that form to a higher league.
4) He is taking a real gamble as by the end of the season unless he has another 10 for Ipswich he will be yesterday’s news.
I think that being a free agent in six months he would choose to be in a team where he is the star and not competing to be the star. Ipswich or Forest it will be much harder to stand out.
I wish him all the best and success where ever he goes but believe we will have had the most prolific period of is career and i will be very surprised if he is in a similar position come June.

Very happy with MR’s decision to have a replacement in before he left. Think it shows that he is building a team and will not allow any individual to be irreplaceable.
CCFC will continue onwards and upwards.
 
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