Shall I remind you again that the game at Lincoln was exactly the same. Only we won that as Robins got Kelly in particular picking up second balls off Rheade. We struggled to do that tonight because we're now playing Kelly further forward and carrying Bayliss, exactly the sort of thing you and others who complained about negativity wanted.He has been awful at reacting for as long as I can remember this season.
If a game works from the start we are ok, if something happens and it isn't then we are fucked.
It was the same over and over, long ball to Rhead and then an overlap for the knock down.
What you talking about game plans for you walking cliche? A game plan is irrelevant if you go a goal downThis streetwise thing is bollocks. It's part of having a game plan.
You can be 18 and be "streetwise".
You see 15 year olds playing against blokes in Sunday League who have more of a clue.
No it's not, because you then change things up to get back into the game.What you talking about game plans for you walking cliche? A game plan is irrelevant if you go a goal down
Not on here, from Robins!That didn’t work at Notts Co after the Yeovil defeat. I don’t think there is a need to panic. We still need at maximum 4 points. Provided they turn up on Saturday we should be good enough for at least a point. Total over reaction on here.
Shall I remind you again that the game at Lincoln was exactly the same. Only we won that as Robins got Kelly in particular picking up second balls off Rheade. We struggled to do that tonight because we're now playing Kelly further forward and carrying Bayliss, exactly the sort of thing you and others who complained about negativity wanted.
Pressleys banished quote. Nothing changed after that.
That's how you lose a dressing room.
We won because we got hold of the game, we won possession back through second balls. Jones and Nazon could then hit them on the breakWe won then because we had pace of Jones and sort of with nazon to counter them.
You can play positive football trying to win games without massive gaping defensive flaws.
By all means bash them if you are going to follow it through and do something about it.You are saying he doesn't react (I agree), but then you say he went too far in bashing them (I don't agree).
They behaved like boys again tonight and I said in previous threads I felt we were getting a bit complacent. They need a massive kick up the arse.
People said Bayliss was man of the match, I only watched the second half but he was wank on the ball. Touch of a rapist.
He could lose the dressing room, but I think if he doesn't do anything we could miss out on the playoffs. I back him on this.
He's going to change it I'm sure.
Would not be at all surprised to see Willis and Rod dropped and Davies and Hyam in. Think Haynes may well be dropped too and I would expect Reid in on the left.
Think there may be 5 or 6 changes on Saturday easily.
Yet tonight we let them stroll about with acres of space.We won because we got hold of the game, we won possession back through second balls. Jones and Nazon could then hit them on the break
Geez, if that's one of the better performances you have seen from Haynes just how bad did the others have to be?I thought Haynes played alright, he put in some good tackles, in that respect, one of the better performances I’ve seen him in. However, they targeted both Grimmer and Haynes with diagonal direct balls. But Rhead and Palmer bullied our defence.
I want to know what an earth has happened to this defence?! In the last 4 games we’ve conceded about as many as we had done in the previous 10-15. 11 in our last 3 at home! McDonald I think has been all over the place recently. This defence was set to have conceded less than 40 goals at one point — capitulation.
I do sympathise with Robins because we just don’t have the wingers to play 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 and we’re left playing a weird 4-3-3 formation... It’s something that needs to be addressed come summer time.
Geez, if that's on if the better performances you have seen from Haynes just how bad did the others have to be?
By all means bash them if you are going to follow it through and do something about it.
By all means bash them if you are going to follow it through and do something about it.
Not on here, from Robins!
Robins very much hinted at changes for Saturday, so I don't think there is any overreaction on here, it's just posters reacting to what Robins has said.
At one point he actually said that some of the defenders should't be playing football if they can't deal with the ball as they did tonight.
What would you do? It’s all well and good moaning for the sake of it. Your options are:
- Bayliss RM in a 4-4-2
- Vincenti/DKE in a 4-4-2 - so Kelly or Bayliss miss out
- Shipley or Reid on the right - they aren’t JJ
- Play this weird 4-3-3 with McNulty our wide because the way our full backs play, they need coverage
For me, I’m looking at this team and in the playoffs, I think 5-3-2 is the way to go because:
- extra defensive coverage because our full backs have more work no we don’t play w/ wingers
- allows fullbacks to push further up the pitch
- keeps all, Kelly, Bayliss, Doyle, McNulty and JCH in central positions where they need to be.
If we make it to the playoffs, we can’t leave ourselves as open as we have been in these last few matches.
Geez, if that's on if the better performances you have seen from Haynes just how bad did the others have to be?
He's going to change it I'm sure.
Would not be at all surprised to see Willis and Rod dropped and Davies and Hyam in. Think Haynes may well be dropped too and I would expect Reid in on the left.
Think there may be 5 or 6 changes on Saturday easily.
Robins actually said that if they don’t improve he will make changes. Seems like he was saying they are running out of chances rather than had their last chance. Five changes at Notts didn’t work, I don’t think he would do that again. It’s difficult as the right hand side is still causing difficulties with no natural right winger. I don’t think it works with Ponticelli, so Bayliss might well be the preferred option there.( He was criticised on CWR and on here for changing a winning team). Stokes for Haynes and possibly Davis for McDonald are the only two changes that I would make. I would however, use Reid more from the bench, particularly if you are chasing the game as we were tonight.Not on here, from Robins!
Robins very much hinted at changes for Saturday, so I don't think there is any overreaction on here, it's just posters reacting to what Robins has said.
At one point he actually said that some of the defenders should't be playing football if they can't deal with the ball as they did tonight.
Moaning for the sake of it? How?
I wouldn't be surprised to see a random dke return, its been a while.
If there's a game that we are chasing I'd bring pace in. Tonight id have swapped Baylis for biamou and reid for Haynes pushing shipley back.
Reid has the most assists this season in our squad.
I can understand people being angry but you should be ashamed of yourself for using the term “mong”. You’re not the only person to have used it on here. It’s not acceptable, there’s no excuse.And just to be clear I'm not absolving that ginger prick from any blame, he needs to just fucking shout for an option or throw it longer or something instead of just being a mong and looking side to side. Christ
I can understand people being angry but you should be ashamed of yourself for using the term “mong”. You’re not the only person to have used it on here. It’s not acceptable, there’s no excuse.
Why is “mong” such an issue?
Today, the word “mong” is used quite frequently. However, have you ever heard it used in a positive way? Have you used it to mean “idiot”, “slow” or “stupid”? These words have been used throughout history and today to refer to people with learning disabilities and people with Down’s syndrome. Has the word really changed?
We know many people with Down’s syndrome face abuse on the street every day including having the word “mong” shouted at them. When Ricky Gervais or others with similar prominence use this word, people hear it and think it’s alright to use this word how they see fit. Words hit hard and punch you whether you’re up or down.
Not only is the word offensive to people with Down’s syndrome but it is also offensive to Mongolians. If you were a Mongol, how would you like to hear your nationality used as a word that meant “slow”, “stupid” or “idiot”? In an age where people are seeing the consequences bullying has on its victims, why would you promote a negative word with negative pictures? This word is not only harmful to people with Down’s syndrome but to Mongolians.
We encourage Ricky Gervais to speak to his local Down’s syndrome organisation or phone us on 0131 313 4225 for more information. We are happy to put him in contact with people with Down’s syndrome who can explain what the word “mong” means to them. While you may not have known that “mong” refers to Down’s syndrome, will you stop using it now that you know? We hope to erase ignorance over the potency of this word. By educating others on the harm this word does, we hope you and others choose not to use it in the future. By doing so, you are supporting a group in society that is often disregarded.
We have seen words like the “N word”, which referred to black slaves in America change its meaning as some black people have taken back the word and refer to their black friends as “nigga”. However, this word is generally not used by white people as there is a respect and understanding that the origins of the word represent oppression to black people.
People with learning disabilities cannot reclaim the word “mong”. People with learning disabilities are often left out of society. Due to disproportionate cuts to their services, it's harder to secure jobs and college places leaving people with learning disabilities stuck at home.
Don’t use the term then. So long as no one wants to offend black people the N word is okay?Don’t think so. Unacceptable.No one here means it as an insult or intentionally wants to offend someone with learning difficulties.
Give it a rest.
That didn’t work at Notts Co after the Yeovil defeat. I don’t think there is a need to panic. We still need at maximum 4 points. Provided they turn up on Saturday we should be good enough for at least a point. Total over reaction on here.
We don't know what gone on in the dressing room but like you said things do not look good with the team spirit at the moment. The only thing that I can see is the introduction of JCH to the squad and as to wether this has upset the balance we don't know. Or Rod feels threatened by Hyam or Davis?What’s alarming to me is Rods loss of form. He’s gone from outstanding at the start of the season to dreadful now. There seems some underlying problem in our squad as players don’t suddenly become shit overnight.
How many headers did we win up front tonight? I'd say you could count it on a single hand.
He did, definitely. Don't think it was many, but he definitely won some headers.Cannot remember JCH winning one
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