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chiefdave · 2025-12-05T11:31:46+0000

fatso said:
Another simple catch dropped!

Ffs this is getting embarrassing

Its not doing the basics that drives you mad. That's 5 drops now, you aren't beating Australia with that.

Interesting stat from CricViz "England's pacers have taken 3-33 at 11.0 average with deliveries hitting stumps compared to 3-298 at 99.3 average with deliveries missing the stumps".

You see that and think of the old 'line and length' and that the army of England analysts would be telling them to bowl at the stumps but only 7% of deliveries this innings have been on target.

fatso · 2025-12-05T11:34:12+0000

For those people defending Bazball, its noticeable how every Australian batsman has played themselves in and got to double figures!

In comparison, England lost 5 wickets for 4 runs!!

Bazball should be used only when your settled at the crease and the ball has gone soft IMHO.

fatso · 2025-12-05T11:36:52+0000

chiefdave said:
Its not doing the basics that drives you mad. That's 5 drops now, you aren't beating Australia with that.

Interesting stat from CricViz "England's pacers have taken 3-33 at 11.0 average with deliveries hitting stumps compared to 3-298 at 99.3 average with deliveries missing the stumps".

You see that and think of the old 'line and length' and that the army of England analysts would be telling them to bowl at the stumps but only 7% of deliveries this innings have been on target.

Exactly!
We arnt even putting their batsmen under pressure, they can just sit tight and score off the bad balls (which have been numerous)
Whatever the outcome of this match, England need to go back to basics.

Saddlebrains · 2025-12-05T11:37:55+0000

Whitewash incoming

Grendel · 2025-12-05T11:39:36+0000

fatso said:
For those people defending Bazball, its noticeable how every Australian batsman has played themselves in and got to double figures!

In comparison, England lost 5 wickets for 4 runs!!

Bazball should be used only when your settled at the crease and the ball has gone soft IMHO.

Most of England’s dismissals were playing conventionally.

Brighton Sky Blue · 2025-12-05T11:41:31+0000

chiefdave said:
Its not doing the basics that drives you mad. That's 5 drops now, you aren't beating Australia with that.

Interesting stat from CricViz "England's pacers have taken 3-33 at 11.0 average with deliveries hitting stumps compared to 3-298 at 99.3 average with deliveries missing the stumps".

You see that and think of the old 'line and length' and that the army of England analysts would be telling them to bowl at the stumps but only 7% of deliveries this innings have been on target.

Pisses me off no end with this bowling short and hoping for a misplaced swipe. In combination with the batting ridiculousness it's very much like Ange 'This is who we are' Postecoglou levels of stubbornness.

fatso · 2025-12-05T11:51:52+0000

Grendel said:
Most of England’s dismissals were playing conventionally.

2 were caught for nought nibbling at balls they shouldn't of been.

And 2 were bowled for nought off balls that a village cricketer would of straight batted.

Even Crawley who got to 76 threw his wicket away gifting a simple catch.

Brookes dismissal was very poor, and Stokes ran himself out.

That's 7 wickets that Australia didn't have to work for.

In contrast our bowling has been very wayward, and let's not even mention our catching!

Grendel · 2025-12-05T11:57:14+0000

fatso said:
2 were caught for nought nibbling at balls they shouldn't of been.

And 2 were bowled for nought off balls that a village cricketer would of straight batted.

Even Crawley who got to 76 threw his wicket away gifting a simple catch.

Brookes dismissal was very poor, and Stokes ran himself out.

That's 7 wickets that Australia didn't have to work for.

In contrast our bowling has been very wayward, and let's not even mention our catching!

Nothing to do with Bazball then. If we had held catches the game would be pretty close. It’s the fielding that’s been the big difference.

tisza · 2025-12-05T12:00:26+0000

Not a lot of surprises there. England fielding poor yet again. How the coaches/analysts can't messages to the bowlers about length etc is a mystery - although the captain and the bowlers themselves should be picking up on that especially having batted first

fatso · 2025-12-05T12:03:35+0000

Grendel said:
Nothing to do with Bazball then. If we had held catches the game would be pretty close. It’s the fielding that’s been the big difference.

If we'd of batted correctly we would have had a better first innings score.
You simply cant defend losing 5 of your wickets for 4 runs against a pretty poor bowling attack (apart from Stark)

Look how every Australian batsman contributed, even the tail so far.

Then when you dont bowl well or hold catches you cant expect to compete.
The first test finished inside 2 days, its simple to see why. If they put on a 150 run lead this match could be over in 3 days!

If you look at the depth of the Australian attack its very weak, theres no threat after Stark, we should be scoring 500 runs easily, not relying on Archer to get us past 300.

SkyBlueSoul · 2025-12-05T12:04:39+0000

Look at the difference in those partnerships. Imagine just trying to get in and build before going off, they're still going at a good rate

Grendel · 2025-12-05T12:06:25+0000

fatso said:
If we'd of batted correctly we would have had a better first innings score.
You simply cant defend losing 5 of your wickets for 4 runs against a pretty poor bowling attack (apart from Stark)

Look how every Australian batsman contributed, even the tail so far.

Then when you dont bowl well or hold catches you cant expect to compete.
The first test finished inside 2 days, it’ssimple to see why. If they put on a 150 run lead this match could be over in 3 days!

They were out playing conventional cricket.

Only if the top order Brooks played rashly and Crawley will always be aggressive. Head abs Carey should have gone for nothing,

Brighton Sky Blue · 2025-12-05T12:07:30+0000

SkyBlueSoul said:
Look at the difference in those partnerships. Imagine just trying to get in and build before going off, they're still going at a good rate

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So reminiscent of countless doomed Ashes tours really. England pissing wickets away while the Aussies do nothing spectacular and rack up easy wins.

fatso · 2025-12-05T12:09:09+0000

Grendel said:
They were out playing conventional cricket.

Only if the top order Brooks played rashly and Crawley will always be aggressive. Head abs Carey should have gone for nothing,

The stats tell a story

Every Australian got to double figures after playing themselves in.

We lost 5 wickets for 4 runs.

There's no argument.

Grendel · 2025-12-05T12:10:10+0000

fatso said:
The stats tell a story

Every Australian got to double figures after playing themselves in.

We lost 5 wickets for 4 runs.

There's no argument.

Other than Head and Carey played shots which should have been out when they hadn’t scored a run…

fatso · 2025-12-05T12:20:41+0000

Grendel said:
Other than Head and Carey played shots which should have been out when they hadn’t scored a run…

That's not what stopped us scoring 500 runs and putting them under pressure and virtually making a defeat impossible.
If you win the toss and choose to bat you need to post a decent total, especially against a fairly weak bowling attack.

Paul Anthony · 2025-12-05T12:31:26+0000

Terrible batting for the most part yesterday, and couldn't catch a cold, never mind a cricket ball, today.

It's not looking great, is it...

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