Match Thread Coventry v Sunderland Championship Playoff 1st Leg Friday 9th May (1 Viewer)

Jamesimus · May 10, 2025

Find the narrative “we didn’t turn up” weird. We lost due to a mistake made by a largely good player.

Wright was maybe the only player I felt that didn’t “turn up” and he’s still our biggest goal threat. There’s an arguments to be had over whether we’d have been better off starting a taller striker in the middle, whether Grimes was too negative for some periods of the game, our inability to deal with a low block and insistence on always playing a high line at home. All that, sure.

thekidfromstrettoncamp · May 10, 2025

quinn1971 said:
He’s made the same mistakes as.Collins

He made 1 mistake not multiple 1's.The guy has been great all season who are you god football is a game where these thing happen .We dust ourselves down and go again Tuesday hopefully force them to make a few mistakes

torchomatic · May 10, 2025

Perennial Lurker said:
I'm sure there would be a lot more criticism had Collins been in goal . It was a pretty awful effort to save it

Of course. There would be multiple threads. Must be because Wilson is a "character".

thekidfromstrettoncamp · May 10, 2025

Perennial Lurker said:
Not angling for an argument but which side did you think the attacker would try and put the ball in ?
For me it was pretty obvious he was going to go across Wilson but he positioned himself poorly

I don't know how you wanted him to position himself he has to try and cover the near post as well as the far post (which he was) .He got a hand on it it just wasn't strong enough.Personally don't think he was at fault for either goal

Jamesimus · May 10, 2025

Also, don’t want to take anything away from Sunderland who I think executed their game plan perfectly, knowing it exploited our weaknesses. They defended the box so well and the finishes from the lads up front were very good. That Mayenda is a huge talent. It’s a risky game plan that paid off.

I would be surprised if they are not more expansive on Tuesday, but if they are not, all we need is a lucky bounce in the penalty area and we’re back in the tie. Low block is not without its risks!

Otis · May 10, 2025

Jamesimus said:
Find the narrative “we didn’t turn up” weird. We lost due to a mistake made by a largely good player.

Wright was maybe the only player I felt that didn’t “turn up” and he’s still our biggest goal threat. There’s an arguments to be had over whether we’d have been better off starting a taller striker in the middle, whether Grimes was too negative for some periods of the game, our inability to deal with a low block and insistence on always playing a high line at home. All that, sure.

Yeah, the "didn't turn up" is a nonsense really isn't it.

We totally controlled the game, but just found it really hard to break down their defence. We did have some very good opportunities though. That Sheaf one was a shocker.

In fact, whoever he signs his next contract with, I think he has have the caveat that he promises not to shoot. Ever!

It's such small margins in football. The ball was bouncing around their 6 yard box on a few occasions, but it just didn't land right for us. That's football for you.

And their keeper made an awful mistake, but got away with it. MVE makes a mistake, goal.

I fancy our chances on Tuesday. It's just one goal.

I agree with Lampard. For the most part, we played pretty well. It was just the final third where we struggled to get behind and through them.

Keep the faith. I am not at all despondent. We didn't play badly last night and we know now we can go toe to toe with them.

And forget about our away record. Just look at Sunderland's form.leading up to our game and the length of time it's been since they last beat us.

This is a one off cup tie now. Just need to score that first goal and it's game on again.

Sick Boy · May 10, 2025

Evo1883 said:
@Brighton Sky Blue

Have no idea what this kid is saying but this video shows how poor wilson was

It’s pretty standard from him; his positioning has always been dreadful.

Jamesimus · May 10, 2025

Otis said:
Yeah, the "didn't turn up" is a nonsense really isn't it.

We totally controlled the game, but just found it really hard to break down their defence. We did have some very good opportunities though. That Sheaf one was a shocker.

In fact, whoever he signs his next contract with, I think he has have the caveat that he promises not to shoot. Ever!

It's such small margins in football. The ball was bouncing around their 6 yard box on a few occasions, but it just didn't land right for us. That's football for you.

And their keeper made an awful mistake, but got away with it. MVE makes a mistake, goal.

I fancy our chances on Tuesday. It's just one goal.

I agree with Lampard. For the most part, we played pretty well. It was just the final third where we struggled to get behind and through them.

Keep the faith. I am not at all despondent. We didn't play badly last night and we know now we can go toe to toe with them.

And forget about our away record. Just look at Sunderland's form.leading up to our game and the length of time it's been since they last beat us.

This is a one off cup tie now. Just need to score that first goal and it's game on again.

Mad that Sheaf is a centre mid and he’s pretty silky on the ball, but he’s also one of the last people you want the ball to drop out of the sky to on the edge of the opposition penalty area. Bobby Thomas strikes a ball well more consistently!

Ashdown · May 10, 2025

Look we dominated possession, were the team in control of the ball but it counts for very little when once again your strikers are weak. If we knew we were going to hit long balls then surely we needed Simms up front. He’s shit in the air but better than BTA. Lampard has made mistakes here again. Trying to compare Wilson to Collins is pretty pathetic, it wasn’t the best effort to save the first but the real problems lay elsewhere.

clint van damme · May 10, 2025

Ashdown said:
Look we dominated possession, were the team in control of the ball but it counts for very little when once again your strikers are weak.

But that was part of Sunderlands game plan, Le Bris even said it post game.
Dominating possesion isn't a positive when it's part of the oppositions game plan.

Colin Steins Smile · May 10, 2025

I’ve not read the previous 44 pages, but excuse my responses if it only repeats other posts.
1. They did their homework and “parked the bus”.
2. We were too slow in our approach play, as it allowed them to be set and double mark our creative players.
3. Our vulnerability to counter attacks is clear due to our high line and having CBs who are not the quickest.

Otis · May 10, 2025

clint van damme said:
But that was part of Sunderlands game plan, Le Bris even said it post game.
Dominating possesion isn't a positive when it's part of the oppositions game plan.

Yeah, but then they did get lucky on a few occasions too.

Their keeper's dreadful mistake wasn't punished. Sheaf clearly should have scored. He was completely unmarked and about 8 yards out.

Then there was the one that was pinging around their box on the first half, where the ball could have gone anywhere.

Such fine margins at times, isn't it

Tommo1993 · May 10, 2025

Only player in this squad who’d make the grade in the PL is the one who mistakenly threw the game and possibly the tie, and Rudoni.

clint van damme · May 10, 2025

Otis said:
Yeah, but then they did get lucky on a few occasions too.

Their keeper's dreadful mistake wasn't punished. Sheaf clearly should have scored. He was completely unmarked and about 8 yards out.

Then there was the one that was pinging around their box on the first half, where the ball could have gone anywhere.

Such fine margins at times, isn't it

Sheaf can't even get a shot on target let alone score!
And when you concede possesion you expect the opposition to have some chances, its inevitable, but we didnt create that much and we aided and abetted their plan to hit us on the break.

Saddlebrains · May 10, 2025

People trying to get on Milans back is bizarre

Yes he's made a huge mistake thats probably cost us Wembley
But how many times has he bailed us out with his pace when teams break. Il tell you how many, fucking loads

If it wasn't for Milans pace when getting back, we would have conceded an absolute ton more goals over the time hes been here. Anyone who goes to games sees what he does on the recovery, let alone how good he can be going forward

Hes our best RB since Roland Nilsson, and i find it very sad that there are people on here and social media calling him out

Briles · May 10, 2025

I still think we get through I can't see sunderland sitting so deep at home, their fans won't allow it.

Saddlebrains · May 10, 2025

Briles said:
I still think we get through I can't see sunderland sitting so deep at home, their fans won't allow it.

Their support is a myth

They are like Liverpool Loud at KO then silent

They dont need to come at us, it will be a repeat of last night

Tommo1993 · May 10, 2025

Briles said:
I still think we get through I can't see sunderland sitting so deep at home, their fans won't allow it.

If they’ve done any homework at all on last night, the last time we played them and a lot of our other games. There’s every reason they’ll sit back, they’d be mad not to imo. Last time they tried to attack us they got pumped 3-0.

AJB1983 · May 10, 2025

My thoughts:
I’d still have started Simms ahead of Asante, but I don’t think he did too badly considering.
That game was a microcosm of our season - on top for most of it, can’t convert it into goals, and two defensive lapses result in goals from more or less the only chances they had.
Grimes was excellent - best I’ve seen him for us.
Thought Sheaf looked a bit more positive in and around the box.
Jobe Bellingham is the biggest myth in the EFL - did one thing all night which was the goal-saving tackle in Wright near the end.
they obviously came for a draw and we gifted them the win.
not sure why every foul we make has to be a yellow card
tie certainly isn’t over - we get the first goal early on Tuesday it’s game on.

Ashdown · May 10, 2025

I’m not confident now, it’s not like we have someone special to bring in to change things. Our away form has been pretty awful recently, Saka vanishes, Wright usually the same.
Our best hope is that Sunderland have rode their luck last night and we get a few clear sights of goal. Please fuck not that headless chicken Thomas Asante again please Frank.

standupforcity · May 10, 2025

Halftime...

Viktor17 · May 10, 2025

Still hope, believe. There is more twists to come.

We didn’t do a lot wrong last night, certainly didn’t deserve to loose. Credit they defended well, Ballard outstanding.

but there’s hope. Without stating obvious, we have to score 1st goal. And haji has to turn up - pretty feeble effort last night from the star man….

Grimes best player on pitch, absolute rolls Royce.

Macca · May 10, 2025

Saddlebrains said:
People trying to get on Milans back is bizarre

Yes he's made a huge mistake thats probably cost us Wembley
But how many times has he bailed us out with his pace when teams break. Il tell you how many, fucking loads

If it wasn't for Milans pace when getting back, we would have conceded an absolute ton more goals over the time hes been here. Anyone who goes to games sees what he does on the recovery, let alone how good he can be going forward

Hes our best RB since Roland Nilsson, and i find it very sad that there are people on here and social media calling him out

Absolute morons

Tommo1993 · May 10, 2025

SAFC must be kicking themselves. Years of playing attacking football against us to get a point at best. All they had to do was sit off and wait for the mistake et voila

Nick · May 10, 2025

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don’t hold him responsible for a player being allowed to walz through on goal unopposed.

Weird though as when mve assisted against Plymouth, it was Collins fault. (The majority on here, not saying you personally)

Nick · May 10, 2025

Evo1883 said:
@Brighton Sky Blue

Have no idea what this kid is saying but this video shows how poor wilson was

I was at the other end so didn't realise how fucking bad it was.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 10, 2025

Nick said:
Weird though as when mve assisted against Plymouth, it was Collins fault. (The majority on here, not saying you personally)

Yeah I didn’t agree with the people blaming Collins for that. The keeper can do better but the defence is most at fault.

Otis · May 10, 2025

Saddlebrains said:
People trying to get on Milans back is bizarre

Yes he's made a huge mistake thats probably cost us Wembley
But how many times has he bailed us out with his pace when teams break. Il tell you how many, fucking loads

If it wasn't for Milans pace when getting back, we would have conceded an absolute ton more goals over the time hes been here. Anyone who goes to games sees what he does on the recovery, let alone how good he can be going forward

Hes our best RB since Roland Nilsson, and i find it very sad that there are people on here and social media calling him out

Nuts, if true

Leave the poor bloke alone. He must be feeling really down about it anyway.

It happens to the very best of players.

It was his fault for one the goals against Plymouth too, but he's been one of our best players and like you say, he has contributed so much more in terms of positivity than in mistakes

Nick · May 10, 2025

thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
He made 1 mistake not multiple 1's.The guy has been great all season who are you god football is a game were these thing happen .We dust ourselves down and go again Tuesday hopefully force them to make a few mistakes

Have you been watching this season? It was only a couple of weeks ago he fucked up twice against Plymouth. One just as bad as last night.

Collins was in goal though so you probably didn't notice.

clint van damme · May 10, 2025

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yeah I didn’t agree with the people blaming Collins for that. The keeper can do better but the defence is most at fault.

Both are possible, as was the case at Plymouth.
But Collins was becoming a common denominator in a lot of goals conceded.

lord_garrincha · May 10, 2025

Saddlebrains said:
People trying to get on Milans back is bizarre

Yes he's made a huge mistake thats probably cost us Wembley
But how many times has he bailed us out with his pace when teams break. Il tell you how many, fucking loads

If it wasn't for Milans pace when getting back, we would have conceded an absolute ton more goals over the time hes been here. Anyone who goes to games sees what he does on the recovery, let alone how good he can be going forward

Hes our best RB since Roland Nilsson, and i find it very sad that there are people on here and social media calling him out

Not his fault there is a Championship play off right back curse!!!

Brighton Sky Blue · May 10, 2025

torchomatic said:
Funny ain't it? Others fuck up (Binks for example) but it's 100% Collins'fault. Wilson shows how poor he is, yet it's others what done it.

Neither keeper is better than the other IMHO.

Collins cleaned out his own defence and created an open goal. Mostly that goal is on him.

The defence stood still arms raised to let a forward run through. Mostly that goal is on them.

Neither keeper is good enough, no agenda on my part.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 10, 2025

clint van damme said:
Both are possible, as was the case at Plymouth.
But Collins was becoming a common denominator in a lot of goals conceded.

Collins by most measures is the worst keeper in the league. I wouldn’t have kept either of them going into next season to be clear.

Cally Fedora · May 10, 2025

Milan’s mistake was obvious but I’m not really blaming anyone for last night. They parked the bus and got very lucky. You can’t account for that. The tie is wide, wide open. In lots of ways the away tie will be easier for us. This is far from over

clint van damme · May 10, 2025

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Collins cleaned out his own defence and created an open goal. Mostly that goal is on him.

The defence stood still arms raised to let a forward run through. Mostly that goal is on them.

Neither keeper is good enough, no agenda on my part.

Another point, and this is just my take on it, but I don't think anyone will have been happier to see Brad Collins dropped than Brad Collins
He looked broken at the end of the Luton game.

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