Match Thread Coventry City v Manchester United - FA Cup Semi-Final (13 Viewers)

[pusbccfc]

it would have been

No it wouldn't, look at the decisions they've had from VAR. It is a lottery when it's that close

 

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[pusbccfc]

I used to defend VAR but no, fuck it

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I've called for it recently but in two games we've had two major decisions against us. O'Hare kick to the face and a 50/50 VAR call.

 

[TomRad85]

VAR just allows officials to favour the big sides in a different way. At least the old way was quicker. Never offside, everyone involved in that decision can fuck themselves off a bridge.

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

VAR just allows officials to favour the big sides in a different way. At least the old way was quicker. Never offside, everyone involved in that decision can fuck themselves off a bridge.

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If none of the officials in the stadium think there’s a problem with a goal, some arsehole in a computer room should not have the final say.

 

[Otis]

If none of the officials in the stadium think there’s a problem with a goal, some arsehole in a computer room should not have the final say.

Agree.

It's nuts.

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

..............And Im done. Held it together till I seen this......

 

[skybluegod]

I like VAR, but it can't come down to a toenail.

They should have looked at that and said "no clear and obvious error."

And I would have said exactly the same if that had been Man U and not us. 100%.

You can't bring It down to that level of microscopic judgement. It's ridiculous.

If it's that close, stick with the on-field decision.

Not sure I agree. I go the other way with this decision. It's factual it's either on or off. This should be the only decisions it gets involved in.

 

[The watchmaker]

Thats four from four penalty tosses we've lost now. Someone up there doesnt tlike us. I still think it would be fairer doing it from the half way line, not that there were any United supporters left to put ours off. O'Hare looked far to cocky and confident when he stepped up and didn't look bothered at the end.

He'll be devastated. It happens. The players the manager - there were things to learn from the game particularly the first 60 minutes; I'm a little annoyed with the VAR thing but mostly - if you'd told me when I was watching that game against Doncaster that the time would come when we were third favourites for the FA cup and Man U were clinging on for penalties... it's a good day.

 

[Sick Boy]

The small satisfaction is that they’ve become a proper tinpot club.

 

[TomRad85]

The small satisfaction is that they’ve become a proper tinpot club.

Antony cupping his ears at the end after he came on at 3-0 up and was part of a complete crumble vs Championship opposition

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[skybluecam]

Genuinely would’ve preferred to just lose 5-0. Can’t believe it. Last minute winner disallowed by the closest of decisions, leading in the shootout. I’m sure I’ll think differently in a few days or weeks but I’m devastated.

 

[shmmeee]

Not sure I agree. I go the other way with this decision. It's factual it's either on or off. This should be the only decisions it gets involved in.

It’s not though. The cameras refresh rate a s resolution leave a margin of error.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s not though. The cameras refresh rate a s resolution leave a margin of error.

When do you define the ball being played as well? When the player first connects or when it leaves his foot?

 

[Sick Boy]

Genuinely would’ve preferred to just lose 5-0. Can’t believe it. Last minute winner disallowed by the closest of decisions, leading in the shootout. I’m sure I’ll think differently in a few days or weeks but I’m devastated.

Me too. We’ve come so far though over the last 5 years - our day will come.

 

[SkyblueTexan]

This game should give this team the belief that they can compete with the big boys in the EPL. We just have to work on making performances like this (for the last 21 mins of regulation plus 30 mins of extra time) a more consistent part of the way we play. We have raised the profile of this team the last couple of seasons with last season’s playoff final loss and today’s FA Cup SF loss. Just need to use these experiences as a platform for continuing to build this team by attracting better talent. That will help us get to the EPL soon and hopefully make Wembley appearances a more regular thing.

 

[Bidda]

Coventry City will never provide a dull match at Wembley.

Neutrals will always remember that we were robbed by a highly dubious VAR call in this semi-final.

 

[HadjiChippo]

Mainoo and Garnacho were their best players and it’s baffling they both went off.

Both of them need to get as far away from that club/manager as possible. They seem to be progressing in spite of the club rather than because of it.

Eriksen for Mainoo when we were in the ascendancy is so brain dead it defies reality.

 

[SkyblueTexan]

Genuinely would’ve preferred to just lose 5-0. Can’t believe it. Last minute winner disallowed by the closest of decisions, leading in the shootout. I’m sure I’ll think differently in a few days or weeks but I’m devastated.

Not sure I agree. Though it’s cruel to lose this way, it shows we are not that far off from being a competitive PL team. We gave too much respect to them and played too deep in the first half. If we took the game to them sooner we could’ve maybe won during regulation.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Both of them need to get as far away from that club/manager as possible. They seem to be progressing in spite of the club rather than because of it.

Eriksen for Mainoo when we were in the ascendancy is so brain dead it defies reality.

They’re both very young and not had time to have the class stamped out of them yet. Rashford was really pedestrian today I thought, and should be a warning to both of them.

 

[shmmeee]

Coventry City will never provide a dull match at Wembley.

Neutrals will always remember that we were robbed by a highly dubious VAR call in this semi-final.

From the little I’ve looked most of football twitter seems to think it was a joke as well.

 

[itsabuzzard]

Genuinely would’ve preferred to just lose 5-0. Can’t believe it. Last minute winner disallowed by the closest of decisions, leading in the shootout. I’m sure I’ll think differently in a few days or weeks but I’m devastated.

Can't agree with this. At half-time I thought we were in for a proper pasting. What a team, what a manager and what fans! A travesty at the death but we stood toe to toe and won.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

From the little I’ve looked most of football twitter seems to think it was a joke as well.

Probably only Onana and Fernandes who think it was actually offside

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

We were phenomenal for the final 60 minutes of the game. The best hour of football I can remember from a City side. That performance may have just lost us Sheaf in the summer, he was exceptional with the ball. Van Ewijk’s best game for us, he was probably our man of the match but I think all of the players who played that last hour can hold their heads high.

 

[Otis]

Not sure I agree. I go the other way with this decision. It's factual it's either on or off. This should be the only decisions it gets involved in.

But factual to what degree? How far do you go with it.

With handballs for possible penalties, they could go into even closer detail if they wanted to see how many millimetres an arm is away from a body, to show it's in an unnatural position. They could take 10 mins over if if they wanted to get it absolutely, factually spot-on.

You could take everything down to a microscopic level if you wanted.

That today was not factual that it was off. You can draw down to a miniscule level to try and ascertain at what point the pass is made. At what point the ball leaves the passers foot.

It's absolutely nuts.

You can't give offside for that today. Well, they shouldn't anyway. VAR should not be used in this way

Make it clear and obvious errors.

 

[Boicey]

Coventry City will never provide a dull match at Wembley.

Neutrals will always remember that we were robbed by a highly dubious VAR call in this semi-final.

True.
But I absolutely hate being the ‘plucky loser’.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We were phenomenal for the final 60 minutes of the game. The best hour of football I can remember from a City side. That performance may have just lost us Sheaf in the summer, he was exceptional with the ball. Van Ewijk’s best game for us, he was probably our man of the match but I think all of the players who played that last hour can hold their heads high.

If Sheaf is to go someone will need to pay top dollar. English and two years on his contract, if Hamer can go for £15 mill with a year to run, Sheaf should be at least 20.

 

[HadjiChippo]

They’re both very young and not had time to have the class stamped out of them yet. Rashford was really pedestrian today I thought, and should be a warning to both of them.

Not gonna lie, pissed myself laughing when he limped off injured after Sheaf cleanly won the ball.

Rashford does the same thing every game, down the left, cut inside - leave ball behind/lose it, then sulk around. Can pull a wonder goal out once every blue moon, but is an awful team player. If he was truly world class, he’d have tore us apart today.

 

[Otis]

When do you define the ball being played as well? When the player first connects or when it leaves his foot?

Exactly.

 

[NWS]

Hard luck. Great fight back and a cruel way to lose. You had a bloody good go at them though.

 

[NWS]

It'll be another boring cup final I wont bother with

 

[skybluegod]

It’s not though. The cameras refresh rate a s resolution leave a margin of error.

This is every thing in life.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It'll be another boring cup final I wont bother with

I will, mostly in the hope that Haaland, Foden and co tear them a new arsehole.

 

[skybluegod]

But factual to what degree? How far do you go with it.

With handballs for possible penalties, they could go into even closer detail if they wanted to see how many millimetres an arm is away from a body, to show it's in an unnatural position. They could take 10 mins over if if they wanted to get it absolutely, factually spot-on.

You could take everything down to a microscopic level if you wanted.

That today was not factual that it was off. You can draw down to a miniscule level to try and ascertain at what point the pass is made. At what point the ball leaves the passers foot.

It's absolutely nuts.

You can't give offside for that today. Well, they shouldn't anyway. VAR should not be used in this way

Make it clear and obvious errors.

No because clear and obvious doesn't work. This is why we have ended up in this situation, that's what it was to begin with. Your own arguement goes against you. What's considered clear and obvious? Toleration is different.

My personal view, is offsides and ball in and out of play. They are the only two things it should get involved with. That is the view held by a number of premier league referees I have spoken to too.

 

[SkyblueTexan]

We were phenomenal for the final 60 minutes of the game. The best hour of football I can remember from a City side. That performance may have just lost us Sheaf in the summer, he was exceptional with the ball. Van Ewijk’s best game for us, he was probably our man of the match but I think all of the players who played that last hour can hold their heads high.

At some point, we have to hang onto our best players and refuse to sell. COH leaving this summer will further decimate our depleted midfield department. I hope DK sees how far we’ve come since he’s taken over and arms MR and AV with the budget to make next season the one where we get out of this division. We are close to being a Premier League team and have to take the next steps to get there.

 

[chilled]

The offside var is so flawed ????
Have they got equipment that is good enough to show down to miniscule decisions and that's not even getting into when did the ball leave the City players foot pictures ???
And the linesman didn't even flag !!
Gobsmacked !!!!!!