shmmeee
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If expect his return to look a lot like Rudi’s who was out a similar time and that was: 10m, then a midweek 30m, then a start IIRC.
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If expect his return to look a lot like Rudi’s who was out a similar time and that was: 10m, then a midweek 30m, then a start IIRC.
shmmeee
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He's a complete liability
Lampard seems to disagree and I’d agree with him. Woolf has so far not shown anything that gets him in the team.
2024/25 League 1 Champs?
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ok, we’ll see…
shmmeee
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I think if it wasn’t 4 days later maybe
SkyblueTexan
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Need to play like we did in the second half vs Leicester. Need to be more compact in midfield and more on the front foot. Thought Eccles made a difference when he came on and would like him to start in place of Torp who seemed a little off it yesterday. Woolfy for Lati who was also quite shaky. Tats seem reinvigorated after the rest and may need a start with Esse in the 10 role. Wright or Simms up top (think Lampard may start with Wright who finally seemed up for it yesterday). Then we can bring on BTA, Rudoni, Yang, Torp etc. which are great options off the bench.
fernandopartridge
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He did make one very good cross field pass TBF
Warwickhunt
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I think Kitchens tank looks a bit empty and a rotation would help him i think.
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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Johnnythespider
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Tats ran around a lot more than he has been doing when he came on yesterday, amazing what a bit of competition can do
robbiethemole
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Every game becomes the most important at this stage of the season, but who could have predicted the midweek fixtures this week-Every game is a huge game from now until end of the season.
1st v 4th
2nd v 7th
3rd v 9th
5th v 6th
2024/25 League 1 Champs?
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3 days!
he’s got the option of Tats on the wing and Esse at 10 too if that floats his boat
amazing what difference a couple of fresh new faces makes to the squad (and two off the treatment table at the same time, granted)
Ccfcisparks
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MillwallFan
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Nothing about keeping our players fresh for Charlton, at all.
Simply, given the choice I’d rather lose to the top side in the division than a Charlton side that our fan base has seen as an irrelevant league 1 team for the past decade or so.
That and the total and utter shame of losing to any side managed by that total prick, Nathan Jones!
Hutch11
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Couldn't agree with that last line more !!
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I think some are getting a bit carried away. This will be another hard game I expect, and we will need to perform.
If we can win then that momentum is going to be huge for us. I'm hoping the Leicester game was our pivotal moment and that we are done with our dodgy spell.
If we can win then that momentum is going to be huge for us. I'm hoping the Leicester game was our pivotal moment and that we are done with our dodgy spell.
Jamesimus
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Jamesimus
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I’m not getting carried away, it’s the Championship.
Excluding maybe Sheffield Wednesday (who have been making a valiant attempt despite their circumstances), a game against anyone in this league is basically a small scale war.
No one team usually dominates a full 90 mins against anyone else and the ebb and flow of a game can just turn at any moment. It’s just chaos really isn’t it?
I will miss that aspect of it when we are getting battered 13-0 by Man City next season (I hope).
StrettoBoy
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Our attacking options from the bench look so much better with the two loan signings. A hard-fought match in prospect.
2-1 City.
2-1 City.
StrettoBoy
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Absolutely.
The players need to prove to themselves, if no-one else, that Saturday showed we are back to virtually full strength and have returned to form.
I reckon if we can get two wins and two draws from Leicester and the next three then we are back on track. A couple of clean sheets wouldn't go amiss.
Grendel
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it’s pretty random how we are supposed to forget the first half happened.
We were dominated. Lati was awful along with the rest of the back for. He doesn’t have the pace or presence to be a centre half unless needed as an emergency.
Grendel
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Do you agree with Lampard playing the Barnsley Boys every week when available?
Shannerz
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Don't think we're supposed to forget it, I think most acknowledge it.
Back line was poor, but was also left extremely exposed by the midfield not being compact and thus leaving huge amounts of space to play through.
First half was dire, I don't think there's any argument there; when it was tweaked, though, we were the better side by a margin and ultimately deserved the win.
MillwallFan
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First of all, I don’t hate Charlton, not in the same way Coventry fans hate the Villa. I see Charlton more as an irrelevance really - a team and fan base we like to laugh at, mainly due to their delusions of grandeur in believing that their rightful place should be in the Premier League, and not slumming it down in the dreadful Championship!
Stoke City fans feel the same way. Go on both the Charlton and Stoke football forums and just read the level of entitlement that makes them think they‘re so superior to all the rest of us. It’s pathetic really, but also very, very funny. That’s why I can’t take either of those clubs seriously anymore.
I’m happy to address your sly racist inference dig because, unlike you, I know the real truth and not learnt a lot of the lies peddled about us by the tabloids and social media over the past five decades!
I‘ve been going to Millwall since 1974. I’m now 62, so I’ve seen it all. I don’t know how old you are, but back in the 70s and 80s football fans rivalry and hatred of other clubs was pretty much the norm and much more intense than it is these days. Every club back then had their fair share of hooligans and racists, even the likes of Leeds, Man Utd, Chelsea, etc.
What helped to tarnish my club was the 1977 Panorama documentary in which we were stitched up by the BBC in how they portrayed us! Even now, 50 years on, they haven’t changed - witness how the BBC recently edited two different Trump interviews together to make Trump look like a liar. They’ve been doing this sort of thing for decades and getting away with it!
Now, I’m not denying we never used to have an element of racist fans at our club, but if you were to look back at our fan base and our club (starting from the late 60’s when we signed our first black player, striker Frank Peterson in 1968) you will see that Millwall fans have always welcomed black players at our club.
Phil Walker and Trevor Lee both signed for us in 1975. They were the first Black players to truly establish themselves and become fan favourites, with Walker winning Player of the Year in 1978. Peterson may have broke the initial barrier, but Walker and Lee were the pioneers who integrated and excelled in the late 1970s, a period when such players were rare in the upper tiers of English football.
Since then we’ve had numerous black players playing for us, many of whom have won the fans player of the season award. Ah, I hear you say, but what about your treatment of other club’s black players? Yes, that did happen in the past, but it also happened with Leeds, Man Utd, Chelsea fans, etc. as well. Those clubs don’t have that stigma against them now, because they’re big boys in the Premier League, so all that nasty history gets forgotten and brushed under the carpet so as to avoid having the Premiership name tarnished by their past misdemeanours.
Unfortunately we still do have a minority of fans who like to dish out racist slurs towards opposition players, and whilst you cannot condone that behaviour, it has been heard less and less over the years down at the Den. We’ve had CCTV and microphones installed in all four stands for a number of years now, and the perpetrators of these crimes are instantly caught and banned for life.
My club has been trying to clean up its tarnished reputation for years now, yet for all that we do in our local community (which the club has won many awards for) it only takes one journalist with an agenda against us to put a spin on something, and all of the good work and things we have put into place, just gets forgotten and the racism tag rears it’s ugly head again. It’s typical lazy journalism and much of it nowadays is totally unwarranted.
SleepyGinger
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Rushworth
MVE Lati Kitching Dasilva
Torp Grimes
Esse Rudoni EMC
Wright
Wilson
Woolfenden
Bidwell
Eccles
Allen
BTA
Yang
Sakamoto
Simms
MVE Lati Kitching Dasilva
Torp Grimes
Esse Rudoni EMC
Wright
Wilson
Woolfenden
Bidwell
Eccles
Allen
BTA
Yang
Sakamoto
Simms
The Great Eastern
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Very readable post sir. Thanks for taking the time and inclination to write it.First of all, I don’t hate Charlton, not in the same way Coventry fans hate the Villa. I see Charlton more as an irrelevance really - a team and fan base we like to laugh at, mainly due to their delusions of grandeur in believing that their rightful place should be in the Premier League, and not slumming it down in the dreadful Championship!
Stoke City fans feel the same way. Go on both the Charlton and Stoke football forums and just read the level of entitlement that makes them think they‘re so superior to all the rest of us. It’s pathetic really, but also very, very funny. That’s why I can’t take either of those clubs seriously anymore.
I’m happy to address your sly racist inference dig because, unlike you, I know the real truth and not learnt a lot of the lies peddled about us by the tabloids and social media over the past five decades!
I‘ve been going to Millwall since 1974. I’m now 62, so I’ve seen it all. I don’t know how old you are, but back in the 70s and 80s football fans rivalry and hatred of other clubs was pretty much the norm and much more intense than it is these days. Every club back then had their fair share of hooligans and racists, even the likes of Leeds, Man Utd, Chelsea, etc.
What helped to tarnish my club was the 1977 Panorama documentary in which we were stitched up by the BBC in how they portrayed us! Even now, 50 years on, they haven’t changed - witness how the BBC recently edited two different Trump interviews together to make Trump look like a liar. They’ve been doing this sort of thing for decades and getting away with it!
Now, I’m not denying we never used to have an element of racist fans at our club, but if you were to look back at our fan base and our club (starting from the late 60’s when we signed our first black player, striker Frank Peterson in 1968) you will see that Millwall fans have always welcomed black players at our club.
Phil Walker and Trevor Lee both signed for us in 1975. They were the first Black players to truly establish themselves and become fan favourites, with Walker winning Player of the Year in 1978. Peterson may have broke the initial barrier, but Walker and Lee were the pioneers who integrated and excelled in the late 1970s, a period when such players were rare in the upper tiers of English football.
Since then we’ve had numerous black players playing for us, many of whom have won the fans player of the season award. Ah, I hear you say, but what about your treatment of other club’s black players? Yes, that did happen in the past, but it also happened with Leeds, Man Utd, Chelsea fans, etc. as well. Those clubs don’t have that stigma against them now, because they’re big boys in the Premier League, so all that nasty history gets forgotten and brushed under the carpet so as to avoid having the Premiership name tarnished by their past misdemeanours.
Unfortunately we still do have a minority of fans who like to dish out racist slurs towards opposition players, and whilst you cannot condone that behaviour, it has been heard less and less over the years down at the Den. We’ve had CCTV and microphones installed in all four stands for a number of years now, and the perpetrators of these crimes are instantly caught and banned for life.
My club has been trying to clean up its tarnished reputation for years now, yet for all that we do in our local community (which the club has won many awards for) it only takes one journalist with an agenda against us to put a spin on something, and all of the good work and things we have put into place, just gets forgotten and the racism tag rears it’s ugly head again. It’s typical lazy journalism and much of it nowadays is totally unwarranted.
2024/25 League 1 Champs?
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First of all, I don’t hate Charlton, not in the same way Coventry fans hate the Villa. I see Charlton more as an irrelevance really - a team and fan base we like to laugh at, mainly due to their delusions of grandeur in believing that their rightful place should be in the Premier League, and not slumming it down in the dreadful Championship!
Stoke City fans feel the same way. Go on both the Charlton and Stoke football forums and just read the level of entitlement that makes them think they‘re so superior to all the rest of us. It’s pathetic really, but also very, very funny. That’s why I can’t take either of those clubs seriously anymore.
I’m happy to address your sly racist inference dig because, unlike you, I know the real truth and not learnt a lot of the lies peddled about us by the tabloids and social media over the past five decades!
I‘ve been going to Millwall since 1974. I’m now 62, so I’ve seen it all. I don’t know how old you are, but back in the 70s and 80s football fans rivalry and hatred of other clubs was pretty much the norm and much more intense than it is these days. Every club back then had their fair share of hooligans and racists, even the likes of Leeds, Man Utd, Chelsea, etc.
What helped to tarnish my club was the 1977 Panorama documentary in which we were stitched up by the BBC in how they portrayed us! Even now, 50 years on, they haven’t changed - witness how the BBC recently edited two different Trump interviews together to make Trump look like a liar. They’ve been doing this sort of thing for decades and getting away with it!
Now, I’m not denying we never used to have an element of racist fans at our club, but if you were to look back at our fan base and our club (starting from the late 60’s when we signed our first black player, striker Frank Peterson in 1968) you will see that Millwall fans have always welcomed black players at our club.
Phil Walker and Trevor Lee both signed for us in 1975. They were the first Black players to truly establish themselves and become fan favourites, with Walker winning Player of the Year in 1978. Peterson may have broke the initial barrier, but Walker and Lee were the pioneers who integrated and excelled in the late 1970s, a period when such players were rare in the upper tiers of English football.
Since then we’ve had numerous black players playing for us, many of whom have won the fans player of the season award. Ah, I hear you say, but what about your treatment of other club’s black players? Yes, that did happen in the past, but it also happened with Leeds, Man Utd, Chelsea fans, etc. as well. Those clubs don’t have that stigma against them now, because they’re big boys in the Premier League, so all that nasty history gets forgotten and brushed under the carpet so as to avoid having the Premiership name tarnished by their past misdemeanours.
Unfortunately we still do have a minority of fans who like to dish out racist slurs towards opposition players, and whilst you cannot condone that behaviour, it has been heard less and less over the years down at the Den. We’ve had CCTV and microphones installed in all four stands for a number of years now, and the perpetrators of these crimes are instantly caught and banned for life.
My club has been trying to clean up its tarnished reputation for years now, yet for all that we do in our local community (which the club has won many awards for) it only takes one journalist with an agenda against us to put a spin on something, and all of the good work and things we have put into place, just gets forgotten and the racism tag rears it’s ugly head again. It’s typical lazy journalism and much of it nowadays is totally unwarranted.
to be fair, I don’t see Millwall as the club or fanbase it was once portrayed to be - at one point violence was rife everywhere and some fans were known for being ‘harder’ than others, Millwall being one - the Millwall brick by way of example….
racism at the time was also fairly rife, but seen as the ‘norm’, and accepted, so in fairness I probably agree with most of what’s said here.
the only real racism I’ve seen recently when watching us was the couple of Sheff Weds incidents, and I can’t say how happy it makes me to see them in their current predicament!
as much as Millwall sing about everybody hating them, I’m not sure these days it applies as much, in my opinion a half decent club and I wouldn’t be fussed if they’re up there with us come the end of the season
CCFC96
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Rushworth
MvE Woolf Kitching JDS
Torp Grimes
Esse Rudi EMC
Simms
Think Wolf is a better fit for this one than Lati. Could see Eccles starting over Torp given he’s just coming back from injury and wonder if we start Yang over EMC again to give a break as he was blowing late on Saturday.
Would be huge to get a win here and given Ipswich have Bristol City and Boro have Stoke, a chance to get that gap up again.
I’ll go for a quick start with us going 2-0 up early doors and then a heart attack inducing second half with them getting one back late but we hold on.
2-1 Simms & Rudi
MvE Woolf Kitching JDS
Torp Grimes
Esse Rudi EMC
Simms
Think Wolf is a better fit for this one than Lati. Could see Eccles starting over Torp given he’s just coming back from injury and wonder if we start Yang over EMC again to give a break as he was blowing late on Saturday.
Would be huge to get a win here and given Ipswich have Bristol City and Boro have Stoke, a chance to get that gap up again.
I’ll go for a quick start with us going 2-0 up early doors and then a heart attack inducing second half with them getting one back late but we hold on.
2-1 Simms & Rudi
Jamesimus
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First of all, I don’t hate Charlton, not in the same way Coventry fans hate the Villa. I see Charlton more as an irrelevance really - a team and fan base we like to laugh at, mainly due to their delusions of grandeur in believing that their rightful place should be in the Premier League, and not slumming it down in the dreadful Championship!
Stoke City fans feel the same way. Go on both the Charlton and Stoke football forums and just read the level of entitlement that makes them think they‘re so superior to all the rest of us. It’s pathetic really, but also very, very funny. That’s why I can’t take either of those clubs seriously anymore.
I’m happy to address your sly racist inference dig because, unlike you, I know the real truth and not learnt a lot of the lies peddled about us by the tabloids and social media over the past five decades!
I‘ve been going to Millwall since 1974. I’m now 62, so I’ve seen it all. I don’t know how old you are, but back in the 70s and 80s football fans rivalry and hatred of other clubs was pretty much the norm and much more intense than it is these days. Every club back then had their fair share of hooligans and racists, even the likes of Leeds, Man Utd, Chelsea, etc.
What helped to tarnish my club was the 1977 Panorama documentary in which we were stitched up by the BBC in how they portrayed us! Even now, 50 years on, they haven’t changed - witness how the BBC recently edited two different Trump interviews together to make Trump look like a liar. They’ve been doing this sort of thing for decades and getting away with it!
Now, I’m not denying we never used to have an element of racist fans at our club, but if you were to look back at our fan base and our club (starting from the late 60’s when we signed our first black player, striker Frank Peterson in 1968) you will see that Millwall fans have always welcomed black players at our club.
Phil Walker and Trevor Lee both signed for us in 1975. They were the first Black players to truly establish themselves and become fan favourites, with Walker winning Player of the Year in 1978. Peterson may have broke the initial barrier, but Walker and Lee were the pioneers who integrated and excelled in the late 1970s, a period when such players were rare in the upper tiers of English football.
Since then we’ve had numerous black players playing for us, many of whom have won the fans player of the season award. Ah, I hear you say, but what about your treatment of other club’s black players? Yes, that did happen in the past, but it also happened with Leeds, Man Utd, Chelsea fans, etc. as well. Those clubs don’t have that stigma against them now, because they’re big boys in the Premier League, so all that nasty history gets forgotten and brushed under the carpet so as to avoid having the Premiership name tarnished by their past misdemeanours.
Unfortunately we still do have a minority of fans who like to dish out racist slurs towards opposition players, and whilst you cannot condone that behaviour, it has been heard less and less over the years down at the Den. We’ve had CCTV and microphones installed in all four stands for a number of years now, and the perpetrators of these crimes are instantly caught and banned for life.
My club has been trying to clean up its tarnished reputation for years now, yet for all that we do in our local community (which the club has won many awards for) it only takes one journalist with an agenda against us to put a spin on something, and all of the good work and things we have put into place, just gets forgotten and the racism tag rears it’s ugly head again. It’s typical lazy journalism and much of it nowadays is totally unwarranted.
I’m not reading all that but I’ll give you a nice internet hug instead x
Bristol sky blue
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Good post, and well warranted.First of all, I don’t hate Charlton, not in the same way Coventry fans hate the Villa. I see Charlton more as an irrelevance really - a team and fan base we like to laugh at, mainly due to their delusions of grandeur in believing that their rightful place should be in the Premier League, and not slumming it down in the dreadful Championship!
Stoke City fans feel the same way. Go on both the Charlton and Stoke football forums and just read the level of entitlement that makes them think they‘re so superior to all the rest of us. It’s pathetic really, but also very, very funny. That’s why I can’t take either of those clubs seriously anymore.
I’m happy to address your sly racist inference dig because, unlike you, I know the real truth and not learnt a lot of the lies peddled about us by the tabloids and social media over the past five decades!
I‘ve been going to Millwall since 1974. I’m now 62, so I’ve seen it all. I don’t know how old you are, but back in the 70s and 80s football fans rivalry and hatred of other clubs was pretty much the norm and much more intense than it is these days. Every club back then had their fair share of hooligans and racists, even the likes of Leeds, Man Utd, Chelsea, etc.
What helped to tarnish my club was the 1977 Panorama documentary in which we were stitched up by the BBC in how they portrayed us! Even now, 50 years on, they haven’t changed - witness how the BBC recently edited two different Trump interviews together to make Trump look like a liar. They’ve been doing this sort of thing for decades and getting away with it!
Now, I’m not denying we never used to have an element of racist fans at our club, but if you were to look back at our fan base and our club (starting from the late 60’s when we signed our first black player, striker Frank Peterson in 1968) you will see that Millwall fans have always welcomed black players at our club.
Phil Walker and Trevor Lee both signed for us in 1975. They were the first Black players to truly establish themselves and become fan favourites, with Walker winning Player of the Year in 1978. Peterson may have broke the initial barrier, but Walker and Lee were the pioneers who integrated and excelled in the late 1970s, a period when such players were rare in the upper tiers of English football.
Since then we’ve had numerous black players playing for us, many of whom have won the fans player of the season award. Ah, I hear you say, but what about your treatment of other club’s black players? Yes, that did happen in the past, but it also happened with Leeds, Man Utd, Chelsea fans, etc. as well. Those clubs don’t have that stigma against them now, because they’re big boys in the Premier League, so all that nasty history gets forgotten and brushed under the carpet so as to avoid having the Premiership name tarnished by their past misdemeanours.
Unfortunately we still do have a minority of fans who like to dish out racist slurs towards opposition players, and whilst you cannot condone that behaviour, it has been heard less and less over the years down at the Den. We’ve had CCTV and microphones installed in all four stands for a number of years now, and the perpetrators of these crimes are instantly caught and banned for life.
My club has been trying to clean up its tarnished reputation for years now, yet for all that we do in our local community (which the club has won many awards for) it only takes one journalist with an agenda against us to put a spin on something, and all of the good work and things we have put into place, just gets forgotten and the racism tag rears it’s ugly head again. It’s typical lazy journalism and much of it nowadays is totally unwarranted.
Millwall FC have been trying to clean up their act for years, and yet more 'media friendly' clubs escape under the radar for blatant racism.
Not saying Millwall are angels, far from it, just that media bias annoys me.
long way home
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Eccles and Wright to start for Torp and Simms.
Decisions
Wolfie for Lats or Kitch
And what wide combination of EMC, Esse, Minny and Tatsu FL wants.
Lovely problems to have...
3 pt, no injuries, Thomas back and any potential new faces in next squad, now that would be perfect
Decisions
Wolfie for Lats or Kitch
And what wide combination of EMC, Esse, Minny and Tatsu FL wants.
Lovely problems to have...
3 pt, no injuries, Thomas back and any potential new faces in next squad, now that would be perfect
MillwallFan
Well-Known Member
Thank you.
MillwallFan
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Thank you.
MillwallFan
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Thanks, but I’d rather you read it and (respectfully) educate yourself and learn that there are always two sides to a story, and it’s better to listen to both before making a better, informed decision.