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Match Thread Coventry City - Mansfield Town Match Thread - Saturday 11th Nov (5 Viewers)

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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #631
Otis said:
Can't tell from that angle. Ref had a better view. Most certainly wasn't stonewall!

Burge has come out and said Rose was diving all game and there simply wasn't any great mass appeal from their players.

I did think the one where Rose got booked for diving looked like a pen though. Thought Grimmer just caught him, even though he did make a meal of it.
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I am not sure if this rose has a reputation for diving but he will soon get one, this talk of signing him must be talk as he would bring nothing to the team and his constant falling over would drive me crazy
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #632
Grendel said:
Haynes is rubbish
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Would you have Reid back then G ? or play Shipley there?

Interested as to as how you would mix it up, if it's not working?
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #633
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I am not sure if this rose has a reputation for diving but he will soon get one, this talk of signing him must be talk as he would bring nothing to the team and his constant falling over would drive me crazy
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McNulty is as bad and Doyle never misses an opportunity to feign histrionics either.

McNulty likes to stop and run into opponents to try and get a foul - yesterday he did it when he should have carried on - he may have scored.
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #634
Terry Gibson's perm said:
If he gets 10 that will be as many as Beavon,Mcnulty and biamou added together at this rate
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Yeah obe would hope somw of them increaae their tally by end of season too!

But ehat in teyibg to say ia pobticelli ia good. But there will be games he akes zero impact in abs goes missibg. Part and parcwl of being young player
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #635
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Would you have Reid back then G ? or play Shipley there?

Interested as to as how you would mix it up, if it's not working?
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If it’s not working why would you even consider one of our worst players playing out of position. We don’t have 2 capable wingers with pace and we don’t have a good enough player in the middle to constantly distribute successfully.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #636
Grendel said:
You can’t tell from that if there was any contact

Ok

Surprised they missed Vincenti and his chance in the highlights.
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Yeah. Surprised they also missed Ponticelli's goal that was onside too.
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #637
When was the last time we saw a midfielder make a run in beyond the strikers?

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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #638
Grendel said:
McNulty is as bad and Doyle never misses an opportunity to feign histrionics either.

McNulty likes to stop and run into opponents to try and get a foul - yesterday he did it when he should have carried on - he may have scored.
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That's why I wouldn't like another we have enough already
 

Otis

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #639
stupot07 said:
When was the last time we saw a midfielder make a run in beyond the strikers?

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1973.
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #640
Otis said:
1973.
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Feels like it!

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Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #641
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I am not sure if this rose has a reputation for diving but he will soon get one, this talk of signing him must be talk as he would bring nothing to the team and his constant falling over would drive me crazy
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I thought Hemmings looked a better player than him yesterday
 

Otis

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #642
Johnnythespider said:
I thought Hemmings looked a better player than him yesterday
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Was impressed with him. Could do with him here if he plays like that every week.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #643
Johnnythespider said:
I thought Hemmings looked a better player than him yesterday
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Was that the winger
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #644
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Was that the winger
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The lad with the orange boots, played down the left
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #645
Otis said:
Was impressed with him. Could do with him here if he plays like that every week.
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I bet he doesn't that's why he's in this league, maybe he's their kyel reid
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #646
Johnnythespider said:
The lad with the orange boots, played down the left
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I thought that was Hamilton on the wing, pretty sure Hemmings played up top with Rose.

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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #647
Hemmings was the striker booked for descent after a pen claim, I bet Willis was glad to go to right back
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #648
stupot07 said:
I thought that was Hamilton on the wing, pretty sure Hemmings played up top with Rose.

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Hemmings is the player I mean, played on the left of the front 2.
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #649
covcity4life said:
Yeah obe would hope somw of them increaae their tally by end of season too!

But ehat in teyibg to say ia pobticelli ia good. But there will be games he akes zero impact in abs goes missibg. Part and parcwl of being young player
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That's easy for you to say!
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #650
Nick said:
Why do you need pace from a corner?

Other teams create chances, unless they all have strikers who score every chance which would be impressive.
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Other teams just have strikers who score full stop. From the same amount of chances.
People said we didn’t need the out abd our goal scorer as the goals will come from else where.
Then they said we will do a burton.
Non of that is working we still need someone who will more often than not put their chance away.
 

Moff

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #651
dongonzalos said:
Other teams just have strikers who score full stop. From the same amount of chances.
People said we didn’t need the out abd our goal scorer as the goals will come from else where.
Then they said we will do a burton.
Non of that is working we still need someone who will more often than not put their chance away.
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You keep banging the same drum, so who would you suggest a cash strapped League Two signs in the transfer window? that is cheaply available that will score freely.
Its well and good saying something that we would all love but don't pretend that that reality exists.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #652
Moff said:
You keep banging the same drum, so who would you suggest a cash strapped League Two signs in the transfer window? that is cheaply available that will score freely.
Its well and good saying something that we would all love but don't pretend that that reality exists.
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But he isn't paid to find them people at the club are, maybe we could catch burton on a bad day and see if they will swap Beavon back for sordell in fact we could throw in a sweetener of mcnulty and biamou
 

Great_Expectations

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #653
How is it that, while as a forum we have differing points of view on pretty much everything, we unanimously agree we lack creativity and another out and out winger, yet Robins either fails to see it or address it.

Yes Haynes isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but at least he’s willing to run at people, so why not put him on the wing? Or promote a winger from the youth team? The team is so unbalanced and we’re so easy to defend against as all you have to do is mark Jones. At least another pacey winger would give the opposition something else to think about.

I appreciate that losing Andreu was a massive blow but he’s had months to adapt and seemingly hasn’t.

I get the Kelly/Doyle are the same player argument, however I actually think Kelly has more to his game but he’s being asked to play a restricted role. Why not allow him more freedom when playing weaker teams or chasing the game? Or give Stevenson a chance to find some form - when he’s on it, surely he’d be one of the most creative players in the league.

I like Robins and I wouldn’t suggest anything as extreme as sacking him, but his performances over the last few weeks have meant an element of doubt has crept in.
 
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mechaishida

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #654
Terry Gibson's perm said:
No thanks I don't enjoy watching at the moment and that's without the non scoring striker coming back in
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I didn't mean recalling Beavon for his shite goals per game record, more as an intelligent second striker who can hold the ball, pick out a through ball or two and distract defenders whilst others can get into the area.

Other than Beavon, who can do that?

It's not as if we're likely to bring someone in to do that job either...
 

Otis

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #655
Great_Expectations said:
How is it that, while as a forum we have differing points of view on pretty much everything, we unanimously agree we lack creativity and another out and out winger, yet Robins either fails to see it or address it.

Yes Haynes isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but at least he’s willing to run at people, so why not put him on the wing? Or promote a winger from the youth team? The team is so unbalanced and we’re so easy to defend against as all you have to do is Mark Jones. At least another pacey winger would give the opposition something else to think about.

I appreciate that losing Andreu was a massive blow but he’s had months to adapt and seemingly hasn’t.

I get the Kelly/Doyle are the same player argument, however I actually think Kelly has more to his game but he’s being asked to play a restricted role. Why not allow him more freedom when playing weaker teams or chasing the game? Or give Stevenson a chance to find some form - when he’s on it, surely he’d be one of the most creative players in the league.

I like Robins and I wouldn’t suggest anything as extreme as sacking him, but his performances over the last few weeks have meant an element of doubt has crept in.
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Who's Mark Jones?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #656
Moff said:
You keep banging the same drum, so who would you suggest a cash strapped League Two signs in the transfer window? that is cheaply available that will score freely.
Its well and good saying something that we would all love but don't pretend that that reality exists.
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That’s Robin’s job. He will find him the cash strapped club signed Mcnulty and Tony A. Their wages won’t have been cheap. Then paid a fee for a defender on the deadline day.
People will need to move on but we need that striker, Robins knows it and it’s his job to find him.
McNulty was his mistake. He is a good player but just not a ruthless finisher.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #657
mechaishida said:
I didn't mean recalling Beavon for his shite goals per game record, more as an intelligent second striker who can hold the ball, pick out a through ball or two and distract defenders whilst others can get into the area.

Other than Beavon, who can do that?

It's not as if we're likely to bring someone in to do that job either...
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But that means the one alongside has to score loads to make up for his lack of goals I don't think we have that player so we have a better chance of getting two scoring fifteen each than one getting thirty
 

Otis

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #658
I think we can only play Beavon if there IS a striker banging in loads of goals alongside him.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #659
Like I have said before. This is almost a full new team and is still trying to gell together. We knew with bringing in so many new players that some would be duds. We have the best defence sitting 6th in the league I am sure almost everybody to a man would have accepted that before the season started sure its been shite at times thats foitball unfortunately. After the last few years we have had some crap being fans of CCFC but as much as we care point scoring over fellow fans aint gonna solve anything, obviously our attacking/scoring departments isnt working as well as it should and needs addressing either with different tactics or different personel but it aint over yet lets try and stick together as fans and put the inhouse fighting on a back burner
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #660

Grendel said:
Notwithstanding the fact I haven’t lost any debate and no one, as usual, agrees with you.
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Mark Robins agrees with me, you know the bloke who say as a football manager is a miracle worker.....


“ I think we’re the best side in the division but we have just got to work out the best way of finishing moves off. But again, we have got to be ruthless in the final third.

We are creating chances and those goals will come. It’s just disappointing again because we could certainly be three points better off today.

We had plenty of chances and haven’t taken them because either the goalkeeper has made a good save or we’ve not hit the target

have created a number of chances, and really good chances and not conceded too many things.

But we’ve got an over-riding feeling of disappointment because we have to decide as a group that we have to be more ruthless. We have to be more ruthless.”
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #661
Otis said:
I think we can only play Beavon if there IS a striker banging in loads of goals alongside him.
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I think that regarding

Beavon
McNulty
Biamou

The Duck and Ponti I am still unsure, they are too raw to really know for sure yet.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #662
dongonzalos said:
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Mark Robins agrees with me, you know the bloke who say as a football manager is a miracle worker.....


“ I think we’re the best side in the division but we have just got to work out the best way of finishing moves off. But again, we have got to be ruthless in the final third.

We are creating chances and those goals will come. It’s just disappointing again because we could certainly be three points better off today.

We had plenty of chances and haven’t taken them because either the goalkeeper has made a good save or we’ve not hit the target

have created a number of chances, and really good chances and not conceded too many things.

But we’ve got an over-riding feeling of disappointment because we have to decide as a group that we have to be more ruthless. We have to be more ruthless.”
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Name the chances, it's simple if there are so many.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #663
Nick said:
Name the chances, it's simple if there are so many.
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It like his assertion that forwards are getting enough chances on goal to sufficiently convert when those who actually bother to attend know that’s not the case. Signing another striker without addressing the real issue solved absolutely nothing
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #664
Moff said:
You keep banging the same drum, so who would you suggest a cash strapped League Two signs in the transfer window? that is cheaply available that will score freely.
Its well and good saying something that we would all love but don't pretend that that reality exists.
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I'd say best bet is to take a gamble on someone from non-league. If you're after someone proven at this level it won't happen - they'll likely be looking higher.
 

Otis

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #665
Grendel said:
It like his assertion that forwards are getting enough chances on goal to sufficiently convert when those who actually bother to attend know that’s not the case. Signing another striker without addressing the real issue solved absolutely nothing
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I would much rather spend any money on a fast paced right sided midfielder in possession of a good cross in him.
 
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