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Match Thread Coventry City - Mansfield Town Match Thread - Saturday 11th Nov (5 Viewers)

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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 11, 2017
  • #561
Otis said:
It's annoying. We appeared to have solved our goalscoring problem and today we were back again to not creating enough chances.
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We never appeared to solve our goal scoring problem buddy.
That will happen in January.
Until then we just need to stay in touch of the top three if possible.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 11, 2017
  • #562
dongonzalos said:
We never appeared to solve our goal scoring problem buddy.
That will happen in January.
Until then we just need to stay in touch of the top three if possible.
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We had started scoring. 3 at Luton, 2 against Maidenhead and 2 against West Brom.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Nov 11, 2017
  • #563
Otis said:
I am sitting in that exact same pose at the moment, Houch, though have replaced the cigar with a Linda McCartney veggies sausage.
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Or Heathers leg
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #564
Otis said:
We had started scoring. 3 at Luton, 3 against Maidenhead and 2 against West Brom.
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Plus 3 seemingly wrongly disallowed goals including today's game.

We're just not creative enough, we lack balance, we're too slow in our build up and struggle to get in behind teams. Need a proper pacy right winger asap.


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singers_pore

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #565
Our forwards are just too weak (except for The Duck). McNulty is just embarrassing with how easy it is to knock him off the ball. He then throws himself to the ground in the ridiculous hope of gaining a free kick.
 

Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #566
I remember seeing a TV program once about how unreliable eye-witness testimony is from witnesses to crimes.
It was quite eye-opening that different people were sure they saw completely different things.
It turns out eye-witness testimony is the most unreliable type of evidence there is.
This is obviously corroborated by the posts on this thread.
 
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Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #567
I was away today but when I saw 0-1. I was so angry. You should not win 3 nil at Luton then lose at home.
I have to question the players attitude and the managers ability to capitalize on the manner in which we won previously at Luton ..
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #568
Gazolba said:
I remember seeing a TV program once about how unreliable eye-witness testimony is from witnesses to crimes.
It was quite eye-opening that different people were sure they saw completely different things.
It turns out eye-witness testimony is the most unreliable type of evidence there is.
This is obviously corroborated by the posts on this thread.
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And that's why we should state things as opinion and not fact. Grendel take note.
 
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stevefloyd

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #569
Nice to see after a loss the bickering starts again
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #570
Thats just my opinion not s fact
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #571
stevefloyd said:
Nice to see after a loss the bickering starts again
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It all gets a bit hyper doesn't it.

I am not too disheartened by yesterday's result. First 15 mins we were great and should have been ahead. Had we done so I think it would have been a quite different game. Ponticelli should have scored from that early chance, but hit the ball too close to the keeper and you have to remember we were only beaten by a shot from distance.

Biggest concern for me is that when Jones does nothing we seem to do nothing. As has been said many a time, we need a threat from both wings.

I'm confident though that we can get a positive result away at Lincoln next week.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #572
Otis said:
We had started scoring. 3 at Luton, 3 against Maidenhead and 2 against West Brom.
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3 at Luton.....
1 good goal by Mcnulty. ( a rare event)
An exceptional free kick from Shipley who will hardly feature this season.
And a lucky deflection from the Duck.

Sorry matey I only judge it by the league matches as oppose to U23’s and non league opposition.
Luton is a rare event that won’t be repeated often.
We need to draw and win the odd game 1-0.
Hope Ponti can poach some goals, try and stay in touching distance.
Then get a striker in January.
Then win consistently.

Gazolba said:
I remember seeing a TV program once about how unreliable eye-witness testimony is from witnesses to crimes.
It was quite eye-opening that different people were sure they saw completely different things.
It turns out eye-witness testimony is the most unreliable type of evidence there is.
This is obviously corroborated by the posts on this thread.
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That is a fact. What you are also massively influenced by your unconscious bias as well.
For example if you don’t like Burge then he should have done better with the goal.
If you don’t think Haynes can defend then he gave someone too much time.
If you think Biamou is crap then his header was poor as oppose to the defender did well ect ect.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #573
dongonzalos said:
That is a fact. What you are also massively influenced by your unconscious bias as well.
For example if you don’t like Burge then he should have done better with the goal.
If you don’t think Haynes can defend then he gave someone too much time.
If you think Biamou is crap then his header was poor as oppose to the defender did well ect ect.
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Very true.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #574
singers_pore said:
Our forwards are just too weak (except for The Duck). McNulty is just embarrassing with how easy it is to knock him off the ball. He then throws himself to the ground in the ridiculous hope of gaining a free kick.
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Really? He seemed the only one trying to hold it up and lay it off or so something. He managed to get that shot off in the first half for example.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #575
The guy on the phone in summed it up we defend as a team and attack as four, quite often we have six back, I still don't think at home you can play sideways Kelly he doesn't have enough drive.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #576
Nick said:
Really? He seemed the only one trying to hold it up and lay it off or so something. He managed to get that shot off in the first half for example.
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I thought McNulty played quite well yesterday. Not as prevalent in the second half, but then of course none of the players imposed themselves much after half time.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #577
Grendel said:
Again if Biamou is the answer you’ve asked the wrong question. He’s never going to be good enough. He doesn’t work defenders he has little physical impact - oh and he’s still not scored one league goal.
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He's a squad player. He did well yesterday when he came on. Couple of really good flick on's but Ponticelli wasn't on the same page. No-one is suggesting he is the most talented player in the world but he's doing a decent job when he comes on. He doesn't look out of place at this level though admittedly, like every one of our strikers, needs to improve when it comes to putting the ball in the net.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #578
tigersb said:
Why all the negativity?
According to a few on here we're due to give someone a hammering
Then say they told us so
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I think we will at some point. We are a good team and we'll catch someone on an off day at some point.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #579
mark82 said:
I think we will at some point. We are a good team and we'll catch someone on an off day at some point.
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Could have happened yesterday had we scored that first goal. First 15 mins we were all over them and they had no answer.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #580
Otis said:
Could have happened yesterday had we scored that first goal. First 15 mins we were all over them and they had no answer.
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Then they tightened it up a the back and we had nothing
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #581
Nick said:
Then they tightened it up a the back and we had nothing
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Yup and we became clueless. They pretty much marked Jones out of the game and then we ran out of ideas.
 
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rupert_bear

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #582
First game since Notts County and First time I have seen Ponticelli, I think he has a good first touch and close control to be fair perhaps should have scored late on and did get the ball in the net but flagged off-side. Overall though unless our manager changes tact which I doubt his obsession with basically 7 defenders at home we’ll struggle to win Home games because our set up invites teams to come at us through the middle. We don’t/won’t shoot and rely on little one twos or crosses to our only forward which inevitably get gobbled up by opposition centre halves. Going back to Ponticelli he needs a partner next to him to take the weight off him and help him get space in front of goal, as I see it that means linking him up with the Duck or transferring somebody in at xmas and a significant change of tact from Robins, I sharnt be holding my breathe on that one, our manager is negative and probably illustrates why he doesn’t last too long at his various clubs.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #583
dongonzalos said:
3 at Luton.....
1 good goal by Mcnulty. ( a rare event)
An exceptional free kick from Shipley who will hardly feature this season.
And a lucky deflection from the Duck.

Sorry matey I only judge it by the league matches as oppose to U23’s and non league opposition.
Luton is a rare event that won’t be repeated often.
We need to draw and win the odd game 1-0.
Hope Ponti can poach some goals, try and stay in touching distance.
Then get a striker in January.
Then win consistently.



That is a fact. What you are also massively influenced by your unconscious bias as well.
For example if you don’t like Burge then he should have done better with the goal.
If you don’t think Haynes can defend then he gave someone too much time.
If you think Biamou is crap then his header was poor as oppose to the defender did well ect ect.
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Here is two facts

1 you are clueless about football

2 you don’t attend football matches (well not Coventry ones anyway)
 
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standupforcity

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #584
Gazolba said:
I remember seeing a TV program once about how unreliable eye-witness testimony is from witnesses to crimes.
It was quite eye-opening that different people were sure they saw completely different things.
It turns out eye-witness testimony is the most unreliable type of evidence there is.
This is obviously corroborated by the posts on this thread.
Click to expand...
Yep...the game I saw was enjoyable and entertaining to watch. Thought we dominated the game and didn't deserve the result. It's true some players weren't firing, but hey it happens, particularly if we build up our expectations about people like Jones! Vincenti should start every game in my opinion, and McNulty has been unlucky...a very hard worker. I'm not going to single anyone out for criticism or praise, but for me the team performance was obvious and we were unlucky on the day, losing to a long range speculative shot that caught Burge on his back foot. That's how I saw it!!!
 

NortonSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #585
standupforcity said:
Yep...the game I saw was enjoyable and entertaining to watch. Thought we dominated the game and didn't deserve the result. It's true some players weren't firing, but hey it happens, particularly if we build up our expectations about people like Jones! Vincenti should start every game in my opinion, and McNulty has been unlucky...a very hard worker. I'm not going to single anyone out for criticism or praise, but for me the team performance was obvious and we were unlucky on the day, losing to a long range speculative shot that caught Burge on his back foot. That's how I saw it!!!
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Then you didn't watch the same game as me. Just my opinion.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #586
standupforcity said:
Yep...the game I saw was enjoyable and entertaining to watch. Thought we dominated the game and didn't deserve the result. It's true some players weren't firing, but hey it happens, particularly if we build up our expectations about people like Jones! Vincenti should start every game in my opinion, and McNulty has been unlucky...a very hard worker. I'm not going to single anyone out for criticism or praise, but for me the team performance was obvious and we were unlucky on the day, losing to a long range speculative shot that caught Burge on his back foot. That's how I saw it!!!
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We dominated the game for the first 10-15 minutes, then we got dominated.
 
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rupert_bear

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #587
As for Burge, although their goal was a good strike which Haynes should have closed down instead of backing off which invited a shot on second look on TV I think Burge could have done better. Other than that he kept well overall.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #588
Nick said:
We dominated the game for the first 10-15 minutes, then we got dominated.
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We did have a 10 minute spell in the second half too, but it was more just possession rather than threat.
 
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CCFC54321

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #589
rupert_bear said:
First game since Notts County and First time I have seen Ponticelli, I think he has a good first touch and close control to be fair perhaps should have scored late on and did get the ball in the net but flagged off-side. Overall though unless our manager changes tact which I doubt his obsession with basically 7 defenders at home we’ll struggle to win Home games because our set up invites teams to come at us through the middle. We don’t/won’t shoot and rely on little one twos or crosses to our only forward which inevitably get gobbled up by opposition centre halves. Going back to Ponticelli he needs a partner next to him to take the weight off him and help him get space in front of goal, as I see it that means linking him up with the Duck or transferring somebody in at xmas and a significant change of tact from Robins, I sharnt be holding my breathe on that one, our manager is negative and probably illustrates why he doesn’t last too long at his various clubs.
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Robins will be gone after Xmas is my prediction. This is utter shit to watch and I’m bored out of my tiny skull week in week out watching this. It’s not good enough and unacceptable. Vincenti playing will get him the sack!

So disappointed in Robins as thought he was better than this but is becoming similar to Pressleys stay here.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #590
We stoppes dominating after 15 mins but no way i am having it said that we were dominated after

Game was 60/40 in our favour imo
 
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rupert_bear

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #591
I don’t think he’ll be sacked, not by our current chairman or owners anyhow, should that change then maybe. He doesn’t need to be sacked just look at how he’s setting up his team and change.
Why do managers see things differently and persist with failing systems of play ?
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #592
covcity4life said:
We stoppes dominating after 15 mins but no way i am having it said that we were dominated after

Game was 60/40 in our favour imo
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Yeah, I don't think 'dominated' is the right word. They simply had more threat and stretched our defence, but when we had the ball they were much more compact.
 
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NortonSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #593
covcity4life said:
We stoppes dominating after 15 mins but no way i am having it said that we were dominated after

Game was 60/40 in our favour imo
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We didn't really hurt Mansfield after the initial stages.
To be fair they didn't hurt us but when they scored they had been on top for a while.
We never really laid a glove on their goalie.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #594
singers_pore said:
Our forwards are just too weak (except for The Duck). McNulty is just embarrassing with how easy it is to knock him off the ball. He then throws himself to the ground in the ridiculous hope of gaining a free kick.
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He is nowhere near as bad as some make out.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Nov 12, 2017
  • #595
My opinion on McNuly is he’s the senior forward and didn’t offer Ponticelli anywhere near enough close support which is what a rookie kid needs
 
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