Evo1883
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It doesn't matter who united were playing , it's still at a higher intensity and level than the level we played at v Hull city last night
What on earth is wrong with people , have you all lost the fucking plot ?
Wot
I’m saying they were playing a team they were far superior in quality to (and still got ran far closer than they should’ve). It’s not comparable to us playing hull, who were actually above us.
I can’t believe I’m arguing that Robins hasn’t just dropped a bunch of players for the lols and those left weren’t just arsing around for fun but here we are.
You haven't argued anything though , you're insinuating that none of our players could have played no more minutes.. I argued united players who played the same minutes at Wembley played again in a better league at a higher standard.
I also pointed out our form has been shite for some time to which you also blamed fatigue , it's just not true
And now I’m arguing Robins isn’t lying.
Agree fully on this.And I'm arguing that Robins has got plenty wrong recently and fatigue is a convenient excuse for a shitty last quarter of the season ..
His comments after Southampton were very different, ie ‘everyone’s tired you have to find a way through it’. But the truth is we’ve been shipping goals for fun since January and also been unconvincing on the pitch since then.And I'm arguing that Robins has got plenty wrong recently and fatigue is a convenient excuse for a shitty last quarter of the season ..
There’s no excuse next season for this squad re league form at the back endIn the last 10 games we are 16th in the last 15 games we are 15th , are we actually sitting here and saying after game week 28 our team were fatigued and decided they could no longer play and get results ?
We've lost almost half of our last 15 games and fatigue is NOT the reason
Mental to suggest otherwise
What is evo??In the last 10 games we are 16th in the last 15 games we are 15th , are we actually sitting here and saying after game week 28 our team were fatigued and decided they could no longer play and get results ?
We've lost almost half of our last 15 games and fatigue is NOT the reason
Mental to suggest otherwise
Too cautious ,playing not to lose and get a goal on the break , too inconsistent with the team and bringing players in and out , persisting with shit players that are a detriment to the team ..
That's why our season fell away
I've explained everything Pete..What is evo??
but it's relative isn't it - they're higher level players who are used to playing at a higher intensity.It doesn't matter who united were playing , it's still at a higher intensity and level than the level we played at v Hull city last night
What on earth is wrong with people , have you all lost the fucking plot ?
They've 12 injuries and it's not relative , it's like saying ( as I said ) wrexham playing forest green is the same as man city v burnley in terms of what's required to win the match .. it's absolutely not relativebut it's relative isn't it - they're higher level players who are used to playing at a higher intensity.
Bigger squad also
There’s a great disparity between our first team and bench, hopefully that’s not the case next seasonThey've 12 injuries and it's not relative , it's like saying ( as I said ) wrexham playing forest green is the same as man city v burnley in terms of what's required to win the match .. it's absolutely not relative
Burnley wanked all over the league we are in
Genuinely confused by this. On an absolute scale of course not, on a relative one yes.They've 12 injuries and it's not relative , it's like saying ( as I said ) wrexham playing forest green is the same as man city v burnley in terms of what's required to win the match .. it's absolutely not relative
Burnley wanked all over the league we are in
Not sure how it's confusingGenuinely confused by this. On an absolute scale of course not, on a relative one yes.
Two key moments I think.In the last 10 games we are 16th in the last 15 games we are 15th , are we actually sitting here and saying after game week 28 our team were fatigued and decided they could no longer play and get results ?
We've lost almost half of our last 15 games and fatigue is NOT the reason
Mental to suggest otherwise
Too cautious ,playing not to lose and get a goal on the break , too inconsistent with the team and bringing players in and out , persisting with shit players that are a detriment to the team ..
That's why our season fell away
Because their players are higher quality. They also had 72% possession in that game, much easier on the legs than the 55% we had.Not sure how it's confusing
Man utd played 120 minutes v us at Wembley, then played again at a much higher level with the same players and won 4-2 against a team that got 91 points in our league ..
Our fans are arguing that us playing hull is more intense and tiring than man utd playing sheffield united in arguably the world's best league
It's not , but we made 5 changes
I think you're clutchingBecause their players are higher quality. They also had 72% possession in that game, much easier on the legs than the 55% we had.
I think you areI think you're clutching
I agree, Man Utd didn't make many changes so I'm not sure why Haji and Simms couldn't have started.Not sure how it's confusing
Man utd played 120 minutes v us at Wembley, then played again at a much higher level with the same players and won 4-2 against a team that got 91 points in our league ..
Our fans are arguing that us playing hull is more intense and tiring than man utd playing sheffield united in arguably the world's best league
It's not , but we made 5 changes
Fair comment!This thread is proof that our supporters are as fatigued physically and mentally as the players.
Give the players and yourselves a fuckingbreak.
I think you are
Making out that it's somehow harder for Man Utd to be playing a much worse team than them than it is us playing an equal one.
On this point , they were fucked by the end of extra timeI agree, Man Utd didn't make many changes so I'm not sure why Haji and Simms couldn't have started.
Only argument is that Utd didn't put in nearly as much as effort as us on Sunday as they were coasting for 60 minutes and then seemed like they weren't trying much at all for the last 60 minutes meaning they were nice and fresh, add in that they won and it probably made it a bit easier for their players to go again. Also the premier league schedule isn't typically as packed as the championship and they went out of Europe before Christmas.
I love Robins and I've spent the last 7 years praising him .. today I'm saying I think he got some things wrong this season and NEXT season he has to be braver and allow his team to go out and put teams to the sword
We've scored 68 in the league , we've drawn 8 games at home and won 9 , we've scored 34 goals in 21 home games which isn't great (scored 30 last season but could actually defend).. we've got to be A: better at home in general and B: Braver against teams and impose our game on them from the start of matchesWe’re not far shy of 100 goals this season. We’ve got two players almost on 20. We have been putting teams to the sword.
On the one hand you’re saying we’re far too defensive and the other that we let too many goals in.
Which has seen the opposition increasingly just go full throttle at us early on to try and build a lead before that happens. And increasingly it’s paid offArgue with the stats , set up not to concede and impose our game later on when teams "tire" View attachment 35381
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I can understand the mentality when we're a team trying to survive or a team trying to snatch points and games .. but this mentality must swing slightly to achieve our ultimate goal, promotionWhich has seen the opposition increasingly just go full throttle at us early on to try and build a lead before that happens. And increasingly it’s paid off
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