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Match Thread Coventry City - Hull City Match Thread - Wednesday 24th Apr (2 Viewers)

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Otis

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,051
Evo1883 said:
We've lost 6 of the last 10 league games
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Yes and Robins has been consistently saying the players have been suffering from fatigue.

The squad isn't big enough.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,052
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s an accumulation of the season. We haven’t had depth and it’s caught up with us.

We didn’t decide to start JDS and Eccles on the wings, Godden and Kelly’s first starts since Feb and March for ‘lols’.

The quality is obviously higher, but co no pared to last season, we have about 4 less squad players. That was already threadbare.

It doesn’t help that in the summer we recruited players to fit a 3-4-1-2 shape to adapt to 4-2-3-1 when we have one winger in the squad.

The foundation is there, younger players will improve, we’ll bring more quality in the team and we’ll come back stronger.
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To be fair , Robins plays Latibeaudiere for the LOLS so anything is possible
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,053
shmmeee said:
You really have no clue what’s required at this level of the game do you?
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probably more so than you do, unless you’re also involved in the game at this level?
 

shepardo01

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,054
shmmeee said:
He’s not a starter though. He’s fifth or sixth choice CM
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Exactly - but he started tonight! (I know we were struggling!)
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,055
2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
probably more so than you do, unless you’re also involved in the game at this level?
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Then how can you seriously think that we didn’t put a mammoth effort in on Sunday above and beyond what any other team would have in a normal game?

Honestly is you’re involved in the game then I have to question either your intelligence or seriousness. This is basic stuff. The margins in elite sport are tiny.
 
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2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,056
Otis said:
New to this football malarkey are you?
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,057
Otis said:
Yes and Robins has been consistently saying the players have been suffering from fatigue.

The squad isn't big enough.
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We've used 3 players less than Leicester Southampton and West brom , this season

Granted its low compared to most and I agree that the squad needs to be bigger , but there's been games where we've kept players on too long , not used the bench well etc
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,058
shepardo01 said:
Exactly - but he started tonight! (I know we were struggling!)
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Robins is talking about having to play the kids. We just ran out of steam and that’s partly down to a small squad. Godden and Kelly are only on the pitch cos we had half the squad out today.
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,059
Evo1883 said:
We've used 3 players less than Leicester Southampton and West brom , this season
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Nah you’re right Evo. Robins has lost it and the players just can’t be arsed. Tiredness isn’t a thing
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,060
shmmeee said:
Better than the rest of the team that just let them run to the box half the time
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I never questioned his commitment
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,061
Evo1883 said:
To be fair , Robins plays Latibeaudiere for the LOLS so anything is possible
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Lati has only been starting because of injuries. We’ve mostly played the best team that’s available to us this season.

MVE is not a winger and next season I doubt will ever play there if we recruit well. Likewise, with CM - should never play there again if we being in 1-2 players.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,062
shmmeee said:
Nah you’re right Evo. Robins has lost it and the players just can’t be arsed. Tiredness isn’t a thing
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No no smarty pants , what you're doing is blaming our entire collapse this back end on tiredness .. it's just not the case .
 
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Otis

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,063
Evo1883 said:
We've used 3 players less than Leicester Southampton and West brom , this season

Granted its low compared to most and I agree that the squad needs to be bigger , but there's been games where we've kept players on too long , not used the bench well etc
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Is that the full stat? I have seen their benches and they have had much better players to bring on as subs than we have.

Have you included substitutions etc? How many subs? And when?

And I get your point, but in many games our bench has looked very weak hasn't it.
 

2024/25 League 1 Champs?

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,064
shmmeee said:
Then how can you seriously think that we didn’t put a mammoth effort in on Sunday above and beyond what any other team would have in a normal game?

Honestly is you’re involved in the game then I have to question either your intelligence or seriousness. This is basic stuff. The margins in elite sport are tiny.
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I’m not sure I said we didn’t

the fatigue isn’t down to playing two games in four days, and it’s probably (hopefully) not physical unless there are injuries…

they were mentally not there against Blues, and then again today - more emotionally drained I would imagine, but that can be worked on and they should be able to focus with four games to go and knowing that winning all four could possibly mean another shot at the play-offs
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,065
shmmeee said:
Sheaf was outstanding you weirdo
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He wasn't.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,066
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Lati has only been starting because of injuries. We’ve mostly played the best team that’s available to us this season.

MVE is not a winger and next season I doubt will ever play there if we recruit well. Likewise, with CM - should never play there again if we being in 1-2 players.
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Latibeaudiere has started 34 games and played 46 times .. it's not just because of injuries at all
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,067
Otis said:
Is that the full stat? I have seen their benches and they have had much better players to bring on as subs than we have.

Have you included substitutions etc? How many subs? And when?

And I get your point, but in many games our bench has looked very weak hasn't it.
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Exactly. For example, Sakamoto in the lead up to his injury, played more less 90m every game when we switched to 4-2-3-1. His performances started to tail off in the 2-3 games prior to his injury.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,068
Evo1883 said:
Latibeaudiere has started 27 games and played 39 times .. it's not just because of injuries at all
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Since we switched from 4-2-3-1, his reintroduction to the team was when Sheaf got injured, then Torp gets injured and finally Sakamoto. In 2024, his involvement is mostly because our best XI was not available.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 24, 2024
  • #1,069
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Since we switched from 4-2-3-1, his reintroduction to the team was when Sheaf got injured, then Torp gets injured and finally Sakamoto. In 2024, his involvement is mostly because our best XI was not available.
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This just isn't true , he's played when everybody is fit .. Robins likes him , bizarrely
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,070
Evo1883 said:
This just isn't true , he's played when everybody is fit .. Robins likes him , bizarrely
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With a full bill of health, what was Robins starting eleven?
 
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messiahrobins

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,071
Thought that was an outstanding effort from an absolutely knackered group of lads.
Need more depth obviously and Latabadieure needs to be just used as a CB, all the positions he played this season is actually now affecting him i think.
People moaning about the defence, for understandable reasons, need to realise they were all bought to develop so they will all get better, and id sign Binks if we can.
Season is now over and id play as many kids as possible and give the senior players an extended break as we do not want any injuries that go into pre-season
 
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steve101

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  • Apr 25, 2024
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Robins said Torp was injured but no mention of Tavares. Anyone know what the injury is. Hopefully not an Achilles issue again. On Sunday it looked like he had ice on his ankle.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,073
Mucca Mad Boys said:
With a full bill of health, what was Robins starting eleven?
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Sure , but robins has still played him , he's started every single cup game and played In 95% of our league matches

 

hill83

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,074
messiahrobins said:
Thought that was an outstanding effort from an absolutely knackered group of lads.
Need more depth obviously and Latabadieure needs to be just used as a CB, all the positions he played this season is actually now affecting him i think.
People moaning about the defence, for understandable reasons, need to realise they were all bought to develop so they will all get better, and id sign Binks if we can.
Season is now over and id play as many kids as possible and give the senior players an extended break as we do not want any injuries that go into pre-season
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Agree to an extent, but we need to finish as high as possible and end the season on a high. One for potential signings, and one for season ticket sales. I think we can still finish bottom half. 8th looks a lot better.
 
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messiahrobins

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,075
steve101 said:
Robins said Torp was injured but no mention of Tavares. Anyone know what the injury is. Hopefully not an Achilles issue again. On Sunday it looked like he had ice on his ankle.
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Think Tavares is out for the season now, but hopefully its only a 3 week thing. Id be tempted to keep Tavares think there is a player there.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,076
Evo1883 said:
Sure , but robins has still played him , he's started every single cup game and played In 95% of our league matches

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As we’ve had injuries and suspensions…
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,077
hill83 said:
Agree to an extent, but we need to finish as high as possible and end the season on a high. One for potential signings, and one for season ticket sales. I think we can still finish bottom half. 8th looks a lot better.
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Don’t think wr can finish lower than 12th can we? Sunderland can’t catch us with two games left 7 pts behind.
 
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rexo87

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,078
Evo1883 said:
Difference in ability has nothing to do with the level of intensity in a game of football in the Premier league compared to the championship .. the league is head and shoulders above the one we are in , and their players went out and put that intensity in tonight to win 4-2

Their players were fit enough to go out and play again after Sunday in a more demanding league ... is the argument
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Your argument… is shite


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messiahrobins

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  • Apr 25, 2024
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hill83 said:
Agree to an extent, but we need to finish as high as possible and end the season on a high. One for potential signings, and one for season ticket sales. I think we can still finish bottom half. 8th looks a lot better.
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Yes i see your point, i am just a bit worried about picking up a serious injury to one of the marquee players due to fatigue, and Wright probably the guy im most worried about as he will probably play Copa America. But i do see where you are coming from as well.
 
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hill83

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,080
Evo1883 said:
Sure , but robins has still played him , he's started every single cup game and played In 95% of our league matches

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Is there stats for minutes? I’m sure there is but feel like giving you something to do.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 25, 2024
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rexo87 said:
Your argument… is shite


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Sure it is , that's why you stopped at that and never continued to explain why ..
 

hill83

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,082
shmmeee said:
Don’t think wr can finish lower than 12th can we? Sunderland can’t catch us with two games left 7 pts behind.
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Is 12th bottom half? Would have been on teletext I reckon.

Not done the maths and games to be played either to be fair.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,083
hill83 said:
Is there stats for minutes? I’m sure there is but feel like giving you something to do.
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Jog on
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,084
hill83 said:
Is there stats for minutes? I’m sure there is but feel like giving you something to do.
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Was looking at minutes played by players in the PL and IIRC if you put our squad in there they’d take 7 out of the top 10 places. You can’t compare this point in a Champ season with the same in the PL.
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 25, 2024
  • #1,085
hill83 said:
Is 12th bottom half? Would have been on teletext I reckon.

Not done the maths and games to be played either to be fair.
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No. 24/2=12. Top half is 1-12

We won’t lose the next three anyway.
 
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