Sky Blue Kid
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But you don't believe it because it is quoted from the Telegraph. or is it only when it suits you?
Oddly Honest Ray quoted £20 million for Man City as well
Ray Ranson: Coventry City takeover is third time lucky
Care to link me up the article? Pretty sure journalists interpreted it as what Ranson said, rather than Ranson saying it. Regardless, he was quick to clarify it later as transfer fees, wages... the whole shebang.
Transfer funds is oblique enough it can include wages anyway.
Correct another lie that their manager Ricky Spregia denied.
Before this goes really off track, I think what Grendel is trying to say is that the SISU have promised to pay off Coventry's debts and provide manager Iain Dowie with transfer funds of around £20m bit isn't a quote from anybody. It's a bit the CT have stuck in.But you don't believe it because it is quoted from the Telegraph. or is it only when it suits you?
Before this goes really off track, I think what Grendel is trying to say is that the SISU have promised to pay off Coventry's debts and provide manager Iain Dowie with transfer funds of around £20m bit isn't a quote from anybody. It's a bit the CT have stuck in.
It wasn't taken from the Coventry Telegraph.
No and it was an opinion by a journalist not an actual quote.
No and it was an opinion by a journalist not an actual quote.
Before this goes really off track, I think what Grendel is trying to say is that the SISU have promised to pay off Coventry's debts and provide manager Iain Dowie with transfer funds of around £20m bit isn't a quote from anybody. It's a bit the CT have stuck in.
I think you'll find papers don't put words into other peoples mouths, though they often use quotes out of context and twist the meaning.
Besides the quote was in the Mail & other papers.
Even if it was (and I did ask for the link so I could see what was quoted in the article), Ranson was quick to emphasise that 'funds' included wages and agents' fees etc. Sticks clearly in my mind becaue I remember distinctly arguing to tedious death on GMK how SISU weren't that great as people thought, because they weren't going to be spending their £20mil on transfer *fees*.It's not a quote.
Indeed, it's water under the bridge. Time to try and move on some how.Even if it was (and I did ask for the link so I could see what was quoted in the article), Ranson was quick to emphasise that 'funds' included wages and agents' fees etc. Sticks clearly in my mind becaue I remember distinctly arguing to tedious death on GMK how SISU weren't that great as people thought, because they weren't going to be spending their £20mil on transfer *fees*.
Why are we even having this 'debate' anyway?!? Other than it shows it's easy to phrase things in a way that means people read / hear what they want to.
It's the only bit not quoted!Here's the link
Ray Ranson completes Coventry City takeover
Every paper at the time covered it with the same quote. It's not the journalist saying it.
Yup, this is often missed alas.They chose to let that happen, so I have little sympathy for them.
Almost certain (off to a funral, so not looking for itJust for the record I remember Ricky Sbragia talking about retaining Jordan Henderson....... but I cant find the quote to post it. Do I believe a permanent deal was likely to bring him here sorry no.
Yup, this is often missed alas.
Ultimately it's SISU's choice who's in charge, so ultimately SISU are culpable.
Doubt anybody'd want Fisher back as Chairman or CEO under new owners (despite the fact that, IMNSHO, given the constraints and ineptitude around the club as a whole, the footballing side is not run entirely stupidly atm) and not entirely sure why Ranson avoids criticism.
Given his plan as of 2015 was to introduce other hedge funds to other fpootball clubs so said hedge funds could make a profit, it seems he isn't overly bothered with how such a plan turned out at CCFC either.
Fair description, I also think the 2008 world financial crash scared the shit out of them, so weren't willing to put dough into the club.The thing is sisu never intended to run a football club. They were told by Ranson give me x money for a club and I'll give you x money in return when I get it promoted. When Ranson realised he fucked up with Coleman and went to sisu for more cash they said no and he ran away. That's when sisu were forced to take over day to day running and they hadn't a scooby how to do it.
Which proves how stupid they were, it doesn't take a lot of research to establish that a football club is a money pit.The thing is sisu never intended to run a football club. They were told by Ranson give me x money for a club and I'll give you x money in return when I get it promoted. When Ranson realised he fucked up with Coleman and went to sisu for more cash they said no and he ran away. That's when sisu were forced to take over day to day running and they hadn't a scooby how to do it.
Fair description, I also think the 2008 world financial crash scared the shit out of them, so weren't willing to put dough into the club.
Still, I think you're correct, it must have had a huge impact on clubs, especially where the budget had already been spent for that year, to then get the rug pulled from beneath them.Just remembered the ITV thing was just after we were relegated... Ignore that!
That's the same link sbk used.Here's the link
Ray Ranson completes Coventry City takeover
Every paper at the time covered it with the same quote. It's not the journalist saying it.
That's the same link sbk used.
The bit in question is an unquoted bit between 2 quoted paragraphs but it's not the journalist?
If every paper at the time covered it then it should be out there.
I can't find it...
That's the same link sbk used.
The bit in question is an unquoted bit between 2 quoted paragraphs but it's not the journalist?
If every paper at the time covered it then it should be out there.
I can't find it...
Why are you conducting a pointless argument about something that no longer matters. It won't change anything.
As I keep saying, google the quote. You'll be spoilt for choice as every newspaper national and local that covered the takeover seem to use the same quote. They were quoting Joe Elliott as the outgoing chairman who was giving details of the takeover deal. It wasn't newspaper spin, it was a quote. Just Elliott's not Ransoms quote.
Yes, but it's not a quote from the group (SISU) who had apparently committed to spend £20m on transfers and clear the club's debt. Considering Elliott's role in getting people's shares, it was in his interest to talk up the merits of the deal with SISU, so perhaps he's exaggerating.
Or, perhaps SISU had intended to do that without realising the structural issues the club had (god knows how they didn't).
Either way, I don't even know what we're arguing about.
Didn't realise I was arguing with anybody!Why are you conducting a pointless argument about something that no longer matters. It won't change anything.
Seems to me Ranson promised them if they put a certain amount in they would get a good ROI in a couple of years. They put the money in put he didn't get the club promoted so couldn't give them the promised ROI. As simple as that.Not sure I buy in to the argument that they got the jitters due to the financial crisis.
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