Course invaders at today's Grand National. (1 Viewer)

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 17, 2023

Quite incredible comments-the animal rights protesters are to blame for the horse's death, not the people who killed it

Grand National 2023: Trainer blames delays caused by protesters for horse death

Horse trainer Sandy Thomson says the interruption to the Grand National by "ignorant" animal rights activists contributed to Hill Sixteen's death.

www.bbc.co.uk

Boosh · Apr 17, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Quite incredible comments-the animal rights protesters are to blame for the horse's death, not the people who killed it

Grand National 2023: Trainer blames delays caused by protesters for horse death

Horse trainer Sandy Thomson says the interruption to the Grand National by "ignorant" animal rights activists contributed to Hill Sixteen's death.

www.bbc.co.uk

Baffling logic.

JAM See · Apr 17, 2023

clint van damme said:
I actually find it quite cathartic to find out a horse that's lost me money has been destroyed. I'd like to extend it to others that let my bets down like football teams and Boxers.

I did the National Lottery for years.

Wished the same for Mystic Meg.

I feel really bad now.

David O'Day · Apr 17, 2023

The trainer who is trying to blame the fact that his horse died trying to jump a fucking massive fence they are meant to jump is a plum on some people who weren't on the course anymore is a prize plum

greys4life · Apr 17, 2023

oscillatewildly said:
Have they got a valid point? I stopped going to the dogs years ago (only ever an occasional visitor on social occasions) when I learned about the shocking mistreatment of the dogs that just weren't up to it.

The dog industry is even worse!

greys4life · Apr 17, 2023

Grendel said:
The horses are imprisoned 23 hours a day and treated like shite then when useless to the owner shot dead

As horrible as it sounds for many a greyhound a bullet would be gratefully accepted - both industries should be banned.

skybluetony176 · Apr 18, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Quite incredible comments-the animal rights protesters are to blame for the horse's death, not the people who killed it

Grand National 2023: Trainer blames delays caused by protesters for horse death

Horse trainer Sandy Thomson says the interruption to the Grand National by "ignorant" animal rights activists contributed to Hill Sixteen's death.

www.bbc.co.uk

It’s the world we live in. It’s always someone else’s fault and if that someone else is deemed “woke” in some way it’s a two for one.

ccfctommy · Apr 18, 2023

greys4life said:
As horrible as it sounds for many a greyhound a bullet would be gratefully accepted - both industries should be banned.

Then what will happen to the 60,000 odd racehorses then?

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 18, 2023

ccfctommy said:
Then what will happen to the 60,000 odd racehorses then?

They can live happily ever after

Grendel · Apr 18, 2023

ccfctommy said:
Then what will happen to the 60,000 odd racehorses then?

They race an average if 2-3 years. What happens then anyway?

bawtryneal · Apr 18, 2023

I must admit to not really having a strong view on horse racing and specifically the Grand National until now.
I love animals ( big dog lover) and hate animal cruelty and this years protestors has brought it more to the front of my mind, which is a good thing. I actually watched the race and some of the incidents are horrendous.
A genuine question though from somebody who knows zero about horses. When the rider is unseated or the horse falls why do they keep on jumping the remaining fences. Appreciate some "pull up" but a number continue. Is it "herd mentality" or "trained to continue" but you would assume if they hated it they would immediately pull up.

ccfctommy · Apr 18, 2023

Grendel said:
They race an average if 2-3 years. What happens then anyway?

They get top glass care and medical attention. If they are left to roam free then they will cause way more damage not to mention who will look after them.

It's a pretty expensive business looking after a racehorse.

ovduk78 · Apr 18, 2023

I wonder what the life expectancy is of a retired racehorse. I doubt if it's as long as a normal horse. I would think the owners move them on to other owners, sanctuaries, retirement places, etc as soon as they can as it's an expense they don't want.

David O'Day · Apr 18, 2023

bawtryneal said:
I must admit to not really having a strong view on horse racing and specifically the Grand National until now.
I love animals ( big dog lover) and hate animal cruelty and this years protestors has brought it more to the front of my mind, which is a good thing. I actually watched the race and some of the incidents are horrendous.
A genuine question though from somebody who knows zero about horses. When the rider is unseated or the horse falls why do they keep on jumping the remaining fences. Appreciate some "pull up" but a number continue. Is it "herd mentality" or "trained to continue" but you would assume if they hated it they would immediately pull up.

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Why do horses keep running when the rider falls off?

French equine behaviorist Dr. Lea Lansade says that the process which causes race horses to keep running after losing their jockey is called automatism. As described by TheHorse.com, “automatism is the curious brain function that makes us perform actions without even realizing it.”"

Grendel · Apr 18, 2023

ovduk78 said:
I wonder what the life expectancy is of a retired racehorse. I doubt if it's as long as a normal horse. I would think the owners move them on to other owners, sanctuaries, retirement places, etc as soon as they can as it's an expense they don't want.

This is an Australian article but it’s similar here

Life of a Racehorse - Horse Racing Kills

Life of a Racehorse Introduction Beneath its glamorous façade, commercial horseracing is a ruthless industry motivated by financial gain and prestige. What is concealed from the television-viewing punter and champagne-sipping patron are the unremitting challenges the racehorse is forced to...

horseracingkills.com

Grendel · Apr 18, 2023

bawtryneal said:
I must admit to not really having a strong view on horse racing and specifically the Grand National until now.
I love animals ( big dog lover) and hate animal cruelty and this years protestors has brought it more to the front of my mind, which is a good thing. I actually watched the race and some of the incidents are horrendous.
A genuine question though from somebody who knows zero about horses. When the rider is unseated or the horse falls why do they keep on jumping the remaining fences. Appreciate some "pull up" but a number continue. Is it "herd mentality" or "trained to continue" but you would assume if they hated it they would immediately pull up.

Horses are herd animals - fight or fight and they run.

If Aintree was empty and horses riderless they’d just eat the grass. Fire a gun and they will start to run and follow

Otis · Apr 18, 2023

Boosh said:
Baffling logic.

No, that ran in the 3:30 at Kempton Park instead.

clint van damme · Apr 18, 2023

ccfctommy said:
If they are left to roam free then they will cause way more damage not to mention who will look after them.

Is that what you want? 'Cause thats what'll 'appen!

ovduk78 · Apr 18, 2023

Grendel said:
This is an Australian article but it’s similar here

Life of a Racehorse - Horse Racing Kills

Life of a Racehorse Introduction Beneath its glamorous façade, commercial horseracing is a ruthless industry motivated by financial gain and prestige. What is concealed from the television-viewing punter and champagne-sipping patron are the unremitting challenges the racehorse is forced to...

horseracingkills.com

So when they claim that the welfare of the horses is their no 1 priority they only mean whilst it has the potential to earn them some money, once that day has passed they couldn't give a shit!!!

SBT · Apr 18, 2023

I’ve long been an advocate for letting horses compete in a quieter, slower environment where they’re not likely to encounter protesters, which is why I’ve been campaigning to let horses play snooker.

Otis · Apr 18, 2023

SBT said:
I’ve long been an advocate for letting horses compete in a quieter, slower environment where they’re not likely to encounter protesters, which is why I’ve been campaigning to let horses play snooker.

Well it makes sense, as we already have dogs playing pool.

JAM See · Apr 18, 2023

Otis said:
Well it makes sense, as we already have dogs playing pool.

Which is weird, because dogs are colourblind.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 18, 2023

ccfctommy said:
They get top glass care and medical attention. If they are left to roam free then they will cause way more damage not to mention who will look after them.

It's a pretty expensive business looking after a racehorse.

At least they are only whipped a fixed number of times a race

SkyBlueCharlie9 · Apr 18, 2023

JAM See said:
Which is weird, because dogs are colourblind.

I said to my daughter the other day that dogs only see in black &white and got a lecture.
Apparently..... Dogs do not see in black and white. They have two colour receptors in the eyes (humans have 3) which perceive wavelengths of light that correspond to blue and yellow, meaning that dogs see only in combinations of blue, yellow and grey.
Yes they would still f***** struggle at snooker though!

JAM See · Apr 18, 2023

SkyBlueCharlie9 said:
I said to my daughter the other day that dogs only see in black &white and got a lecture.
Apparently..... Dogs do not see in black and white. They have two colour receptors in the eyes (humans have 3) which perceive wavelengths of light that correspond to blue and yellow, meaning that dogs see only in combinations of blue, yellow and grey.
Yes they would still f***** struggle at snooker though!

Ha ha. It's great being lectured by your kids on sciencey stuff. Proves that you did something right somewhere along the way.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 18, 2023

Good to see the BBC presenting a balanced coverage on this

Grand National 2023: Trainer Sandy Thomson on the death of horse Hill Sixteen

Trainer Sandy Thomson tells Tom English of his grief at the death of horse Hill Sixteen during Saturday's Grand National.

www.bbc.co.uk

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Apr 18, 2023

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Good to see the BBC presenting a balanced coverage on this

Grand National 2023: Trainer Sandy Thomson on the death of horse Hill Sixteen

Trainer Sandy Thomson tells Tom English of his grief at the death of horse Hill Sixteen during Saturday's Grand National.

www.bbc.co.uk

Why's he saying sorry if it's all the fault of the protestors? Surely he should have been at his side swearing he'd avenge him.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 18, 2023

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Why's he saying sorry if it's all the fault of the protestors? Surely he should have been at his side swearing he'd avenge him.

If he thought the horse was distressed, why let it race?

fernandopartridge · Apr 18, 2023

clint van damme said:
Is that what you want? 'Cause thats what'll 'appen!

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