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Adge

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  • Jul 8, 2019
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Not my council as I don’t live in Cov but was just wondering after all the stick they are getting ref the Ricoh and now the Godiva festival, (quite rightly so) has anybody had to use their local councillors putting football bias to the side for a minute, and did they help you?
 
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  • Jul 8, 2019
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One of my three seems quite proactive in my area in trying to get things done, and actually answered me wrt our dispute, if not as I'd want.

The other pair couldn't even be bothered to reply, so they can sod right off!
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 8, 2019
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Yep lots. It’s about knowing how to ask amd what they are responsible for
 
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Gray

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  • Jul 8, 2019
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I've moved out of Cov now, but used to live in Whoberley where Bally Singh was/is councilor and he did a decent job, always trying to make the area better... In other areas I've lived in Cov and where I live now you never hear from the local councilor
 

Mr Panda

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  • Jul 8, 2019
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I've recently used Ridley who is leader of the conservatives and have no complaints with the effort he put in for me.
 

Nick

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  • Jul 8, 2019
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Mr Panda said:
I've recently used Ridley who is leader of the conservatives and have no complaints with the effort he put in for me.
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #7
Adge said:
Not my council as I don’t live in Cov but was just wondering after all the stick they are getting ref the Ricoh and now the Godiva festival, (quite rightly so) has anybody had to use their local councillors putting football bias to the side for a minute, and did they help you?
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When I lived in Foleshill, seemingly couldn’t give a shit. Now I live in Finham, I never have anything to complain about!

Local government is very hit and miss. Some great councillors, I hear good things about the young girl just elected in Earlsdon for example, some fucking terrible (many Foleshill councillors), some just a bit crap.

Of course the reason for this is that only the very committed and the fucking weirdos turn up to party meetings and get selected. So go and join and be active in a political party folks!! Or put up and shut up with what you’re given.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep lots. It’s about knowing how to ask amd what they are responsible for
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This is very true. You get a lot more by going to someone responsible for your issue even if not your local councillor.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #9
The local council are great. We have had to use them a few times and nothing has been too much trouble. Always go out of their way to help and always go above and beyond.

From all at wasps
 
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hill83

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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Side note.

I've lived in several areas in Coventry.

Radford - Never saw the street being cleaned
Hillfields - Never saw the street being cleaned
Finham - Cleaned a few times
Stivichall - Cleaned at least once a month
Earlsdon - Cleaned at least once a month
Wyken - Never saw the street being cleaned
Eastern Green - Cleaned at least once a month

Paid the same council tax in all areas.
 

LastGarrison

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #11
Gray said:
I've moved out of Cov now, but used to live in Whoberley where Bally Singh was/is councilor and he did a decent job, always trying to make the area better... In other areas I've lived in Cov and where I live now you never hear from the local councilor
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When I was living in Allesley Park he seemed to be very active, particularly on Social Media, and seemed to get a lot done and was pretty much well liked.

In Wyken I only knew one of the candidates and that is because she used to run the cake shop by Cally School. The rest I have never heard of.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #12
hill83 said:
Side note.

I've lived in several areas in Coventry.

Radford - Never saw the street being cleaned
Hillfields - Never saw the street being cleaned
Finham - Cleaned a few times
Stivichall - Cleaned at least once a month
Earlsdon - Cleaned at least once a month
Wyken - Never saw the street being cleaned
Eastern Green - Cleaned at least once a month

Paid the same council tax in all areas.
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The difference in service you get in Finham compared to Foleshill is ridiculous.

Though now you mention it I can’t remember the last time I saw a street being cleaned anywhere. Do they still do it?
 
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  • Jul 9, 2019
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shmmeee said:
The difference in service you get in Finham compared to Foleshill is ridiculous.

Though now you mention it I can’t remember the last time I saw a street being cleaned anywhere. Do they still do it?
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The machine comes past me now and again. Not sure that does much other than push the rubbish onto my front lawn, mind you!
 

hill83

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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shmmeee said:
The difference in service you get in Finham compared to Foleshill is ridiculous.

Though now you mention it I can’t remember the last time I saw a street being cleaned anywhere. Do they still do it?
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Glad it's not just me imagining it. I lived in Wyken (technically upper stoke) for 3 years and the same rubbish was knocking around in the street for the entire time.
I've been in Eastern Green for a year now and the street is spotless. I work shifts and I've been woken up by the street cleaning machine several times.

It's not on. (the difference between areas, not me being woken up)
 
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lord_garrincha

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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hill83 said:
Side note.

I've lived in several areas in Coventry.

Radford - Never saw the street being cleaned
Hillfields - Never saw the street being cleaned
Finham - Cleaned a few times
Stivichall - Cleaned at least once a month
Earlsdon - Cleaned at least once a month
Wyken - Never saw the street being cleaned
Eastern Green - Cleaned at least once a month

Paid the same council tax in all areas.
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None???
 
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hill83

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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lord_garrincha said:
None???
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None what?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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hill83 said:
Glad it's not just me imagining it. I lived in Wyken (technically upper stoke) for 3 years and the same rubbish was knocking around in the street for the entire time.
I've been in Eastern Green for a year now and the street is spotless. I work shifts and I've been woken up by the street cleaning machine several times.

It's not on. (the difference between areas, not me being woken up)
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It really bothers me. Apparently it’s because residents in posher places moan more, but as someone who moaned all the time in Foleshill I didn’t see any difference. Don’t even get me started on the social justice impact of lack of parking in poor areas or where the council choose to plant trees.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #18
shmmeee said:
Don’t even get me started on the social justice impact of lack of parking in poor areas or where the council choose to plant trees.
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Ok, I won’t
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #19
shmmeee said:
It really bothers me. Apparently it’s because residents in posher places moan more, but as someone who moaned all the time in Foleshill I didn’t see any difference. Don’t even get me started on the social justice impact of lack of parking in poor areas or where the council choose to plant trees.
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I had a result here in Stoke
Also tried to get the street drinking curtailed, think there were a few more street warden patrols but to little avail.
Bottles and cans left on top of the walls at house frontages, especially at the top of the street near the fast food outlet/illegal backy shop.
This was through the phone line rather than a councilor.
 
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ricohroar

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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Council Tax bands and charges | Council Tax bands and charges | Coventry City Council I doubt you paid the same in each of those areas. I live in Finham and pay a hell of a lot more than most areas.
 

Marty

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #21
shmmeee said:
The difference in service you get in Finham compared to Foleshill is ridiculous.

Though now you mention it I can’t remember the last time I saw a street being cleaned anywhere. Do they still do it?
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Weekly down my street in autumn. I'm just by Hersall Common, we tend to get massive build up of leaves and rubbish in autumn.
 

bawtryneal

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #22
I live in Bawtry and the streets are spotless
Pay twice the council tax of Cov though
 

hill83

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #23
ricohroar said:
Council Tax bands and charges | Council Tax bands and charges | Coventry City Council I doubt you paid the same in each of those areas. I live in Finham and pay a hell of a lot more than most areas.
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Band C in Finham, Stivichall, Earlsdon, and Eastern Green.
Band B in Wyken.

Radford and Hillfields you can have, both band A. But even then does that mean the streets shouldn't be cleaned because someone pays £200 a year less council tax?
What about someone with a more expensive house in a 'poorer' area paying the same council tax as someone in a 2 bed in Stivichall? It's not right.
 

ricohroar

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #24
hill83 said:
Band C in Finham, Stivichall, Earlsdon, and Eastern Green.
Band B in Wyken.

Radford and Hillfields you can have, both band A. But even then does that mean the streets shouldn't be cleaned because someone pays £200 a year less council tax?
What about someone with a more expensive house in a 'poorer' area paying the same council tax as someone in a 2 bed in Stivichall? It's not right.
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I didn't say it was right just said the areas pay more. parish fees added on also.
 
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pipkin73

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #25
Out here in GC the streets are cleaned 6 times a week. They get people who are long term on the dole to do it, if your fit and healthy then you can work for your money, like everyone else has to do. Think it's a great idea.
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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ricohroar said:
Council Tax bands and charges | Council Tax bands and charges | Coventry City Council I doubt you paid the same in each of those areas. I live in Finham and pay a hell of a lot more than most areas.
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Probably less houses per sq mile than in Finham, wouldn't be surprised if more council tax raised than in Finham than in those areas.

Would be an interesting way of working out how much council tax raised per area than purely on individual basis.
 

ccfcway

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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In NI “council tax” fees are based on sq ft of your house. Bigger the house, more you pay
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #28
shmmeee said:
The difference in service you get in Finham compared to Foleshill is ridiculous.

Though now you mention it I can’t remember the last time I saw a street being cleaned anywhere. Do they still do it?
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They do my street in Potters Green once a month
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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pipkin73 said:
Out here in GC the streets are cleaned 6 times a week. They get people who are long term on the dole to do it, if your fit and healthy then you can work for your money, like everyone else has to do. Think it's a great idea.
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These incentives in theory can be good but you do have to be careful. It can create a culture where it incentivises keeping people doing it on below minimum wage rather than paying someone the going rate to do the job (similarly with internships), and b) if it impacts on the time that said people could be going for interviews/applying for jobs.
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
These incentives in theory can be good but you do have to be careful. It can create a culture where it incentivises keeping people doing it on below minimum wage rather than paying someone the going rate to do the job (similarly with internships), and b) if it impacts on the time that said people could be going for interviews/applying for jobs.
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Yep, street cleaning's a valuable job that deserves a proper salary. It should be more giving someone unemployed that job, rather than making them work for their benefit.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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Deleted member 5849 said:
Yep, street cleaning's a valuable job that deserves a proper salary. It should be more giving someone unemployed that job, rather than making them work for their benefit.
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Devils advocate: we can’t afford that so we end up with neither. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

To be honest I’d rather JSA was scrapped and replaced with say 10 hours a week of guaranteed minimum wage work doing something like street cleaning where there’s always work to be done. Make existing street cleaners better paid supervisors.

Well actually I’d replace JSA with UBI, but that’s a whole other kettle of fish.
 
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ccfcway

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  • Jul 9, 2019
  • #32
shmmeee said:
To be honest I’d rather JSA was scrapped and replaced with say 10 hours a week of guaranteed minimum wage work doing something like street cleaning where there’s always work to be done. Make existing street cleaners better paid supervisors.
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exactly that. current street cleaners could be paid to supervise and sign off on people getting benefits.
 
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pipkin73

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
These incentives in theory can be good but you do have to be careful. It can create a culture where it incentivises keeping people doing it on below minimum wage rather than paying someone the going rate to do the job (similarly with internships), and b) if it impacts on the time that said people could be going for interviews/applying for jobs.
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I do agree in a way, but they clean at approx 5am -11am so plenty of time to still look for work after.
Also it stops people just not wanting to work.
Benefits are topped up so they get a "higher wage" due to working.
No system is perfect, but as people are saying on here that it's hardly ever done in their areas, i think this system would help for a better environment and encourage people to look for work.
 

Mcbean

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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We had a street cleaner round for once in a year and some delivery driver wouldn’t move his van so they missed a quarter of the street - fuck I am grumpy
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 9, 2019
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pipkin73 said:
I do agree in a way, but they clean at approx 5am -11am so plenty of time to still look for work after.
Also it stops people just not wanting to work.
Benefits are topped up so they get a "higher wage" due to working.
No system is perfect, but as people are saying on here that it's hardly ever done in their areas, i think this system would help for a better environment and encourage people to look for work.
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There’s pros and cons to all of them. The admin cost of such a system would be significantly higher and harder to police (can you “sack” them?).

To be honest benefit fraud is absolutely tiny (aside from Universal Credit loans!!) so I’m not worried about that. More that the current job seeking arrangements are the worst of both worlds. We treat people like criminals for a pittance and give them no self esteem or employability skills other than shit courses run by rip off merchants. I’d rather we gave people jobs or just had a universal benefit rather than pretending we’ll starve people to death if they won’t work, which we know isn’t true.
 
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