Getting there thanks,but is going to take time and some lifestyle changes
The same things they all agreed to signing up to hide.So how come it's only Wasps that want to continue with the NDA? What do they want to hide?
We need something to change and no agreement isn’t a solutionAll abide by eu verdict...... could cost wasps millions sisu nothing (even if it goes against them) so I don't see that happening unless we have the verdict first and sisu lose
Wouldnt part of the argument be wasps helped damage ccfc ?
Wasps need to draw a line under the risk now not leave loose ends.
You carry more hope than me but I just cannot see any of that happening. Why would sisu initiate the complaint if they didn't intend to see it through to the most profitable conclusion. It really is not and never has been about ccfc no matter what the pr says or joys apparent conversion to a fanatical ccfc fan. This remains about investment return which I would suggest means the new stadium project puts them in an uncomfortable position ...... it is increasingly likely they will need to follow through on it or sell up
That’s rightBut when the Council agreed to sell we had returned to the Ricoh if memory serves me right?
We need something to change and no agreement isn’t a solution
What about agreeing both have the right to appeal and the right to pursue damages?
I need a solution help me
I think we're in a cyclical thing where there is no solution... as things stand. It needs a change of mindset from one of the protagonists, rather than a change of what deal is to be done, and we can go through the strengths and flaws in each approach until the cows come home - as I'm sure they have all done!We need something to change and no agreement isn’t a solution
What about agreeing both have the right to appeal and the right to pursue damages?
I need a solution help me
Good to hear
But you sure you should be on this Forum ( for your health that is )
Don’t know if you’ve been to don valley, and I’ve no idea how much it’s changed since I lived in Sheffield, but you really wouldn’t want to be playing football there for any length of time. Went to a ‘rave’ there once, ha.
Getting there thanks,but is going to take time and some lifestyle changes
Good to hear
But you sure you should be on this Forum ( for your health that is )
It was further up. They would need to agree not to appeal or that both parties have a right to appeal. The case clearly impacts wasps as they will have to pay money if state aid is agreed and potentially would be implicated in a case to damages against ccc or at least an interested partyWho are both? The complaint is SISU against CCC not WASPS
You would need to have CCC included somewhere ?
No !
The only hope is a quick conclusion to the EU investigation. Sisu cannot withdraw it, and the club should not indemnify it.
As fans we have very little option but to wait the conclusion of the EU investigation and hope that wasps backdown. I feel sorry for the employees they made redundant that they have been able to keep with the extra income had they agreed a deal with ccfc.
How ccc can say that the club have been treated fairly is joke.
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I can’t believe the person on here who I look to see the wider picture is focused on this season. You could say there’s no point or you could say what a great opportunity when there’s not much money being gained or lost to make an agreement in the medium term??I think we're in a cyclical thing where there is no solution... as things stand. It needs a change of mindset from one of the protagonists, rather than a change of what deal is to be done, and we can go through the strengths and flaws in each approach until the cows come home - as I'm sure they have all done!
I mean you have to say, especially at the moment, what's in it for any of them to actually agree a deal where they give something major up? No fans, limited fans whenever they're allowed... I can't see what's in it for any of them to change their approach. Can you?
Who are both? The complaint is SISU against CCC not WASPS
You would need to have CCC included somewhere ?
We need something to change and no agreement isn’t a solution
What about agreeing both have the right to appeal and the right to pursue damages?
I need a solution help me
Edge of the box !!!!!If you ask me to put my most positive hat on, I think the most likely route is still tugging the heartstrings of Wasps and saying “Look, Sisu are cunts and will continue to be cunts, CCFC playing at the Ricoh temporarily will change nothing. So for the fans, just let us play there on a short term deal until our ground is built or the EU case returns whichever happens first”.
But you’re talking Liam Kelly from the halfway line in terms of shots.
We need something to change and no agreement isn’t a solution
What about agreeing both have the right to appeal and the right to pursue damages?
I need a solution help me
I think we're in a cyclical thing where there is no solution... as things stand. It needs a change of mindset from one of the protagonists, rather than a change of what deal is to be done, and we can go through the strengths and flaws in each approach until the cows come home - as I'm sure they have all done!
I mean you have to say, especially at the moment, what's in it for any of them to actually agree a deal where they give something major up? No fans, limited fans whenever they're allowed... I can't see what's in it for any of them to change their approach. Can you?
Ok assume that’s all the case what’s wrong with a party taking a jump and agreeing with all those clauses understood. Everyone knows the case is most likely to be thrown out.Wish I could be more positive
The next solution window is i fear the result of the eu complaint. Before then because of the sums involved I dont see how either side move.
Sisu as I said will follow through on the complaint until there are no other options
Wasps have to protect their interest and simply cannot back down. They are as entitled to use legal process or clauses as sisu.
Too much money at stake
The only glimmer of hope is a verdict on the complaint finding no wrong doing by ccc and at that point sisu say that's enough. Anyone confident of them doing that ?
But thats not about ccfc really is it. Thats the owners accepting a limit to their investment return
Perhaps people will finally realise that it is not about what's best for ccfc it never has been and that has never changed. Wasps will look after their interest and sisu theirs. Ccfc is the pawn or tool stuck in the middle.
Love you!!! Yep now you’re talking a plan something that we can run with as a proposalI can't see what's in it for CCFC/Sisu to change approach. From Wasps perspective it's a little more cloudy for me. Sisu will pursue the legal action either way, CCFC not being there doesn't change that. They're trying to leverage discussions to mitigate future risk. It's a decision they're taking that they'd rather leverage that in the future at the expense of now. There's no real benefit to Wasps of CCFC not playing at the Ricoh.
Wish I could be more positive
The next solution window is i fear the result of the eu complaint. Before then because of the sums involved I dont see how either side move.
Sisu as I said will follow through on the complaint until there are no other options
Wasps have to protect their interest and simply cannot back down. They are as entitled to use legal process or clauses as sisu.
Too much money at stake
The only glimmer of hope is a verdict on the complaint finding no wrong doing by ccc and at that point sisu say that's enough. Anyone confident of them doing that ?
But thats not about ccfc really is it. Thats the owners accepting a limit to their investment return
Perhaps people will finally realise that it is not about what's best for ccfc it never has been and that has never changed. Wasps will look after their interest and sisu theirs. Ccfc is the pawn or tool stuck in the middle.
The only glimmer of hope is a verdict on the complaint finding no wrong doing by ccc and at that point sisu say that's enough. Anyone confident of them doing that ?
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Fair enough. Poor Rotherham!It doesn't exist anymore.
Rotherham Utd played there while their new ground was being built.
It appears there is!Pretty sure there are no further routes to pursue this if EU find it to be all above board.
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You do know that we're all going to find it on catch up now!I’m glad no one heard the cwr interview last night. I was a bit pumped after the ccc meeting and it was Trish
Pretty sure there are no further routes to pursue this if EU find it to be all above board.
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I think that’s well worth saying and we have treated all our meetings with caution and that we want what’s best for Ccfc as Ccfc supporters. What’s interesting is sharing what we now know and things do become very clear.I would also note that council aren't immune to bending the truth and spinning a yarn. So I would treat yesterdays meeting with a caution.
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Liquidate! as you say we are the company stuck between a rock and a hardplace, I should think Joy is looking forward to getting a shot at a £100 million game at the end of the season (me being an optomist LOL)I think we could agree an extension with Birmingham if there are no other options. I think the EFL would agree to it as long as there was evidence of progress in moving back to Coventry/building a new ground.
I agree, liquidation isn't particularly likely. What is there to liquidate? Not a lot really.
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