He adds that Coun Mutton told him they were his “honestly held beliefs.”
What I don't get is:
I am sure they were, but it doesn't change it does it?
I could honestly hold a lot of beliefs, people do about gay people for example but doesn't mean they are ok.
This is all a bit one sided.
We expect to be able to see all the councils dirty underwear but Sisu emails and discussions are not up for review ................. ever.
Move on ..... No smoking gun here.
Just wish Sisu would move on and we can start to build bridges.
Or a stadium!This is all a bit one sided.
We expect to be able to see all the councils dirty underwear but Sisu emails and discussions are not up for review ................. ever.
Move on ..... No smoking gun here.
Just wish Sisu would move on and we can start to build bridges.
This is all a bit one sided.
We expect to be able to see all the councils dirty underwear but Sisu emails and discussions are not up for review ................. ever.
Move on ..... No smoking gun here.
Just wish Sisu would move on and we can start to build bridges.
Mr Goacher seems to be on the council's defence the way somethings are being worded.
There was certainly a recognition of the council needing to put out a position in relation to a high profile building.”
Sisu lawyer asks: “Who should take responsibility for the comments we complain about, the councillors or Coventry City Council?”Mr Goacher said: “The individuals that made those.”
He says it’s his opinion that they did not break the code of conduct.Asked again if they amounted to a lack of respect, Mr Goacher said of the “Sisu greed” comment: “Frustration makes the comments less temperate than they may otherwise be. There is a lack of respect on behalf of councillor Mutton but they are made by a councillor in a political context which means they do not amount to a breach of the code.
But this is about the sale of the Ricoh, sanctioned by CCC to Wasps. Why would you need to see SISUs emails for this?
Interesting he keeps wording it as the council too, I thought it was ACL?
Because they weren't involved in the sale to Wasps....
Something that they only have themselves to blame for. You'll wake up to that fact one day.
They own the building and half of ACL. Surely they are entitled to an opinion on a hostile takeover attempt ?
Because it is always said all the Weber Shandwick Pr and stuff was for ACL and not the council..... Yet this guy keeps mentioning the council did this, the council did that rather than ACL did this, ACL did that...
It's the ethics committee.
Surely ethics works both ways ??
It's the 'council' ethics committee !!
It's the 'council' ethics committee !!
Yes, but the comment was about the PR stuff...
But it has always been said it was ACL using Weber shandwick and dealing with it, but he keeps saying the council did this, the council did that...
As in the council were doing the PR, not ACL
Have you got a problem with PR ?
It's what everybody does, surely ?
It means 'Public Relations' after all.
Tory Coun Allan Andrews is now looking at the press comments made by Coun Mutton.
He asks why they were not considered a breach of the code.
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He looks through Weber Shandwick emails.He asks who is being encouraged by the PR firm to launch a “PR strategy” - he says “presumably it means ACL”?
He says an email referencing that Joy Seppala’s address is available online is “disturbing”.
The email went on to say that someone working in the press at the time was keen to doorstep Ms Seppala.
Mr Goacher said it was his view that any PR activity was being signed off by ACL, rather than the council directly.
And it's the councils code of conduct.
One requirement is honesty. How can they claim they have abided by that when it is known as fact that they consistently put out false information?
Another is openness, can anyone say that has been applied surrounding Wasps takeover?
They are required to act solely in the public interest, i.e.: not make decisions based on personal grievances. Again this doesn't seem to be the case.
There will be no pleasing you ..... ever.
Other than CCC giving the Ricoh to Sisu (if they really could afford it) they will always be criticised by a few CCFC fans on here for not doing so.
All the evidence, hearings, JR outcomes point that what happened was the only outcome possible.
Wasps were there to take advantage of Sisu messing up.
There will be no pleasing you ..... ever.
Other than CCC giving the Ricoh to Sisu (if they really could afford it) they will always be criticised by a few CCFC fans on here for not doing so.
All the evidence, hearings, JR outcomes point that what happened was the only outcome possible.
Wasps were there to take advantage of Sisu messing up.
I am not sure you are keeping up.
It is always been said that it was ACL using Weber Shandwick etc and not the Council....
The council have a big PR team, they will of course do it
Other than a few Sisu hangers on, no one wants them here.
Wouldn't Tories though say the sky wasn't blue if Labour says it was.Looks like a Tory councillor doesn't agree.
To be honest. Sisu are the 'dog shit' on the pavement of life and I just wish they would move on and let us rebuild the club without them.
Other than a few Sisu hangers on, no one wants them here.
Coun Andrews asks why Mr Goacher didn’t ask for context of why a council officer reportedly said the council should “go on the offensive” with Sisu in the press.
Mr Goacher says he didn’t believe the meeting where she was supposed to have made these comments would have been properly minuted as it was a private member briefing.
Other than a few Sisu hangers on, no one wants them here.
Top Top post , we all know sisu are accountable to themselves , the council however, are accountable to the public purse , you don't have to like it but that is a fact , for the record I have allways said the blame for this mess is 50 /50There is not one scrap of evidence that says selling to Wasps was the only outcome possible. There is simply no way that could ever be asserted as ACL wasn't placed for sale on the open market.
I have consistently said what should have happened was an open, honest and transparent sales process. I don't see why you have such an issue with that.
Coun Mutton says “I’ll be careful how I word this, I’m married!” before going on to explain that the reported hug with Ms Seppala at the end of one meeting wasn’t a one off example of how they had communicated in the past.
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