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robbiekeane

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  • Oct 10, 2020
  • #33,496
stupot07 said:

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So one company could supply 500k gowns per week and it already had the accreditation, one company could supply 40k per week with no accreditation.

Obviously they’re going to focus on the former ffs. Ridiculous one-sidedness like this that just takes credibility away from labour
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2020
  • #33,497
This is literally just a labour ranting thread. Zero objectivity and embarrassing bias.

My party isn’t in power so must slag absolutely everything off that current party is doing!

Would have so much more credibility if actually looked at things objectively.
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2020
  • #33,498
robbiekeane said:
This is literally just a labour ranting thread. Zero objectivity and embarrassing bias.

My party isn’t in power so must slag absolutely everything off that current party is doing!

Would have so much more credibility if actually looked at things objectively.
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We had the worst recession of any g7 country and deaths is absolutely tragic too in comparison to other countries around the world. Objectively that is a fair assessment is it not?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2020
  • #33,499
robbiekeane said:
This is literally just a labour ranting thread. Zero objectivity and embarrassing bias.

My party isn’t in power so must slag absolutely everything off that current party is doing!

Would have so much more credibility if actually looked at things objectively.
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Name 3 good things they have done this year
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 10, 2020
  • #33,500
robbiekeane said:
This is literally just a labour ranting thread. Zero objectivity and embarrassing bias.

My party isn’t in power so must slag absolutely everything off that current party is doing!

Would have so much more credibility if actually looked at things objectively.
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If you look at all that has happened this year and this is somehow your conclusion to it all then it says a lot more about you than the ‘leftie whingers’ that comment on here.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,501
robbiekeane said:
This is literally just a labour ranting thread. Zero objectivity and embarrassing bias.

My party isn’t in power so must slag absolutely everything off that current party is doing!

Would have so much more credibility if actually looked at things objectively.
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Cool
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,502
robbiekeane said:
This is literally just a labour ranting thread. Zero objectivity and embarrassing bias.

My party isn’t in power so must slag absolutely everything off that current party is doing!

Would have so much more credibility if actually looked at things objectively.
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Objectively they’ve fucked everything up. The criticism is fair.
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,503
skybluetony176 said:
Objectively they’ve fucked everything up. The criticism is fair.
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But before covid wasn't this country in its best state for like 30 years?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,504
Kieranp96 said:
But before covid wasn't this country in its best state for like 30 years?
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No. We did have food banks though, so every cloud...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,505
Kieranp96 said:
But before covid wasn't this country in its best state for like 30 years?
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This has to be some weird kind of joke
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,506
skybluetony176 said:
No. We did have food banks though, so every cloud...
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I think I read that there are more foodbanks than there are branches of McDonalds now
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,507
Ring Of Steel said:
I think I read that there are more foodbanks than there are branches of McDonalds now
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Sadly true. Yay for the Tories.
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,508
Lol all these angry posts you can’t even see the irony in it
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,509
robbiekeane said:
Lol all these angry posts you can’t even see the irony in it
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What’s the irony then?
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,510
skybluetony176 said:
No. We did have food banks though, so every cloud...
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Lowest employment rate in years, less homeless, highest benifits, more support, climbed out of recession, got brexit done and I m sure lsods more.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,511
Ring Of Steel said:
I think I read that there are more foodbanks than there are branches of McDonalds now
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got to be a good thing, McDonalds is a rip off
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,512
robbiekeane said:
This is literally just a labour ranting thread. Zero objectivity and embarrassing bias.

My party isn’t in power so must slag absolutely everything off that current party is doing!

Would have so much more credibility if actually looked at things objectively.
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Tell us what they've done well then?
12 billion on a trace and track and they used an Excel 2003 spreadsheet that they didn't realise had a limited number of rows.
And the person they put in charge? Previously responsible for the biggest data breach in UK history.

Th is follows on from the PPE and care home fuck ups. So go on, tell us what we should be subjective about?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,513
Kieranp96 said:
Lowest employment rate in years, less homeless, highest benifits, more support, climbed out of recession, got brexit done and I m sure lsods more.
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Less homeless? Have you been smoking crack?
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,514
Kieranp96 said:
Lowest employment rate in years, less homeless, highest benifits, more support, climbed out of recession, got brexit done and I m sure lsods more.
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Lowest employment? I presume you mean unemployment, but I don't know about that one, give us the figures. Less homeless, obviously bullshit. Walk around town and you'll know that's false. Highest benefits, people actually committed suicide after the introduction of the bedroom tax. More support, why the rise in food banks then?
Climbed out of recession, fantastic. Shame about all the public services that got the hatchet along the way. The deepest cuts: austerity measured

Got Brexit done, Johnson has had to break the law over his oven ready deal that was a load of shite, still no deal in place. Still, people gobbled up his bullshit because blue passports etc.

In short, I'm not convinced.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,515
Do we have a Covid thread anywhere for useful information and discussion. This feels like an episode of The Young ones on loop. More interested in the medical aspect
 
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clint van damme

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  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,516
Macca said:
Do we have a Covid thread anywhere for useful information and discussion. This feels like an episode of The Young ones on loop. More interested in the medical aspect
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Yes the thread does go off on a tangent sometimes but I don't think it's possible to remove the political aspect and have a proper debate on the issue.

Plenty of medical discussion in this thread in addition to All the other stuff.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,517
More promising news

BCG: Can a vaccine from 1921 save lives from Covid-19?

Vaccines may cause wide-scale changes in the immune system which can boost the body's protection.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,518
clint van damme said:
Yes the thread does go off on a tangent sometimes but I don't think it's possible to remove the political aspect and have a proper debate on the issue.

Plenty of medical discussion in this thread in addition to All the other stuff.
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Things like the spreadsheet fiasco are so spectacularly inept and corrupt, it's no wonder those fires burn bright. Even the most dedicated righty would accept government badly lets us down with episodes like that.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,519
No way am I having a BCG again, one of the sixth formers will give me a dig on the arm and scab it up something rotten
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,520
clint van damme said:
Yes the thread does go off on a tangent sometimes but I don't think it's possible to remove the political aspect and have a proper debate on the issue.

Plenty of medical discussion in this thread in addition to All the other stuff.
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Yeh but the Tories are on the verge of never being elected ever again. They will lose the next election and labour will never make the same mistake this time and could stay in power for decades. Therefore why not concentrate on the medical side which is of far more use to a pleb like me
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,521
Macca said:
Yeh but the Tories are on the verge of never being elected ever again. They will lose the next election and labour will never make the same mistake this time and could stay in power for decades. Therefore why not concentrate on the medical side which is of far more use to a pleb like me
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There was a second thread.
In fact I think it started before this one
Then after a while this was designated political and became the premier of the two.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,522
Anyhow.
Personal experience this week .
Wider family 1adult tested, negative,DIY test 4day turnaround.
Closer to home immediate family,1child tested, negative, test Ricoh within 3:hours,result, 42hrs .
Impressed with that and relieved of course.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,523
Macca said:
Yeh but the Tories are on the verge of never being elected ever again. They will lose the next election and labour will never make the same mistake this time and could stay in power for decades. Therefore why not concentrate on the medical side which is of far more use to a pleb like me
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Labour have very little chance of an overall majority in the next election.

Starmer has none of the charisma Blair had and that’s what’s needed given Scotland is virtually a closed shop to labour now

Also it is highly likely Johnson will not want a second term anyway - I doubt he ever did. They will select the correct time for a bounce - probably after 4 years
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,524
Grendel said:
Labour have very little chance of an overall majority in the next election.

Starmer has none of the charisma Blair had and that’s what’s needed given Scotland is virtually a closed shop to labour now

Also it is highly likely Johnson will not want a second term anyway - I doubt he ever did. They will select the correct time for a bounce - probably after 4 years
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If the assumption is it's lost, would the sixth year be better?
May depend when and if an enquiry goes ahead ?
Never know it could be sooner.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,525
Grendel said:
Labour have very little chance of an overall majority in the next election.

Starmer has none of the charisma Blair had and that’s what’s needed given Scotland is virtually a closed shop to labour now

Also it is highly likely Johnson will not want a second term anyway - I doubt he ever did. They will select the correct time for a bounce - probably after 4 years
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It feels like we’re doomed to perpetual Tory government
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,526
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It feels like we’re doomed to perpetual Tory government
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Labour don’t help themselves. A lot of Tory MPs In the north want a motion to either prevent northern lockdown or enhanced support - labour will not vote against the government on the issue
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,527
robbiekeane said:
This is literally just a labour ranting thread. Zero objectivity and embarrassing bias.

My party isn’t in power so must slag absolutely everything off that current party is doing!

Would have so much more credibility if actually looked at things objectively.
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This is your first time on Bill Estersons Twitter feed I see. You’re coming off a bit unbalanced unless you’ve literally never seen a politician on Twitter before. Shall I drag up Nadine Dorries or any of the mental new intake ranting about Marxism?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,528
Kieranp96 said:
Lowest employment rate in years, less homeless, highest benifits, more support, climbed out of recession, got brexit done and I m sure lsods more.
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Right it's time to make you look a right c**t

Lowest Employment rate - I assume you mean Lowest Unemployment rate but this is a misleading figure as this is padded out with part time and zero hours jobs. Also the size of the people who have made themselves economically inactive is increasing. Also the rate has been trending downwards since the mid 90s.

Less Homeless - You been on the meths? Homeless households in England rise by 23% in a year

Homelessness is increasing in both rough sleepers and the more hidden sofa surfers.

Highest Benefits - Benefits will always go up in cash terms but while these increases are less than the rate of inflation in real terms they are less as they offer reduces purchasing power

More support - For what all help groups have damned the government for reducing spending on their sectors

Climbed out of recession -Limped and continually dropped back into recession due to flawed economic ideas based on a spreadsheet error. The UK was coming out the great recession in 2010 but austerity destroyed demand and thus growth dropped.

Got Brexit done - Forgive but are you telling me all the news about the government trying to get and fucking up a trade deal with the EU is fake and it's all been done?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,529
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It feels like we’re doomed to perpetual Tory government
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Not going to happen
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 11, 2020
  • #33,530
wingy said:
Anyhow.
Personal experience this week .
Wider family 1adult tested, negative,DIY test 4day turnaround.
Closer to home immediate family,1child tested, negative, test Ricoh within 3:hours,result, 42hrs .
Impressed with that and relieved of course.
Click to expand...
We booked a test on Tuesday night for 8am the next day at the Ricoh, negative result came in about 6pm the next day. Considering some of the horror stories around I was quite happy with that turnaround
 
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