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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,356
Brighton Sky Blue said:
As a young lad you'd hope it'd be easier to find him on socials. Must be someone who knows him out of here?
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He's been online in the last few days
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,357
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Back everyone, just needed a break for a bit but things are all good now back to work the first week of November! Thanks everyone anyway
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Good to hear things are looking a bit better for you.
 
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Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,358
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Back mate hope you are well
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Good to see you back, all good this end
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,359
Saddlebrains said:
And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?


And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

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Do you not think that the ‘reduced’ deaths is due to the actions around the wearing of masks, social distancing and other actions where people indoors are generally more spaced out, that we’re not embedded as normal practice in April and May.

But if we let the infection rate keep growing as it is, it will eventually get into the places where it can do some serious damage.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,360
Saddlebrains said:
We cannot shut down the country for something 80 odd percent of people dont even know they have, based on worry it might mutate.
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Saddlebrains said:
And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?

And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.
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What do you think will happen to those with cancer, alzheimers etc if things are opened up and the NHS rapidly becomes overwhelmed?

People seem to have quickly forgotten the footage from a few months ago in places like New York showing bodies being piled up in refrigerated trucks and rotting corpses in overwhelmed funeral homes. They are already moving all non-covid patients out of hospitals in Paris as they struggle to cope with the increasing hospitalisations.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,361
chiefdave said:
What do you think will happen to those with cancer, alzheimers etc if things are opened up and the NHS rapidly becomes overwhelmed?

People seem to have quickly forgotten the footage from a few months ago in places like New York showing bodies being piled up in refrigerated trucks and rotting corpses in overwhelmed funeral homes. They are already moving all non-covid patients out of hospitals in Paris as they struggle to cope with the increasing hospitalisations.
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What are we using the Nightingale hospitals for at the moment?
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,362
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What are we using the Nightingale hospitals for at the moment?
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Nothing, they have no staff and are not fit for much beyond providing bed space
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,363
Ring Of Steel said:
The mindset of the people who question what "the real truth" is and think its all a scam to control them is nuts

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Fucking hell, dickheads like him are fucking idiots.
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,364
Sick Boy said:
Fucking hell, dickheads like him are fucking idiots.
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He's just teyna stir shit up, they have the army out because if not they would be sat on their asses doing nothing.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,365
Nice to see DOM LAAAADDD has turned up. Good to know you're ok.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,366
Only half way through this, it’s a long old read, but absolutely fascinating and terrifying in equal measures. Just arrogance and fuck ups as far as the eye can see.

Hancock is GREAT - Tortoise

There’s Matt Hancock, cheerily welcoming to you his new smartphone app, way back in February 2018. How long ago that seems. He’d just been appointed Culture Secretary. Theresa May was still in Number Ten, still battling to sort out Brexit and – we foolishly thought – as bad a Conservative Prime...
members.tortoisemedia.com
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,367
shmmeee said:
Only half way through this, it’s a long old read, but absolutely fascinating and terrifying in equal measures. Just arrogance and fuck ups as far as the eye can see.

Hancock is GREAT - Tortoise

There’s Matt Hancock, cheerily welcoming to you his new smartphone app, way back in February 2018. How long ago that seems. He’d just been appointed Culture Secretary. Theresa May was still in Number Ten, still battling to sort out Brexit and – we foolishly thought – as bad a Conservative Prime...
members.tortoisemedia.com
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D'Ancona another arse hole hack who rubbished the opposition back in December.
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,368
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Back everyone, just needed a break for a bit but things are all good now back to work the first week of November! Thanks everyone anyway
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,369
fernandopartridge said:
D'Ancona another arse hole hack who rubbished the opposition back in December.
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He’s worse than the Tory hacks who at least fully and wholeheartedly believe their methods are the right ones. A handwringing twat only interested in keeping his own powder dry.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,370
Ian1779 said:
He’s worse than the Tory hacks who at least fully and wholeheartedly believe their methods are the right ones. A handwringing twat only interested in keeping his own powder dry.
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it's called Starmerism
 

Marty

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,371
Got sent home from work yesterday as a mate I have been in contact with is a confirmed case, feel completely fine, no symptoms at all, sent my mum out for some food for me which she left on my door step (bless her). Second time in isolation now, got plenty to keep me occupied, I was looking at one of the lego sets (International space station) the other day for myself while I was looking for a gift. should give me a few hours of fun
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,372
It's said only 20% are isolating.
Here's a story .
From mate's wife.
Jacked her job last week at a Ball hill hair salon.
Boss came back from Spanish holiday didn't isolate went to work all week.
This week tested positive.
Another employee also has jacked after said boss messaged her to open up and not say anything.
Someone in my family has just been for a test.
Turnaround about 2-3 hrs from asking.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,373
Why is all of the focus on shutting pubs when the majority is students?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,374
Nick said:
Why is all of the focus on shutting pubs when the majority is students?
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The one thing I would say for shutting pubs is that it probably switches something in people’s minds. Lots of “if pubs are open why can’t I do X?” Type questions at the moment.

The student thing is funny. They can’t exactly go back on it now as you’re just getting a bunch of people infected then sending them round the country. They never should’ve opened them in the first place but the landlords wouldn’t have been happy.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,375
wingy said:
t's said only 20% are isolating.
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Sounds about right.
I know of several examples of folks not isolating, & many more of students not isolating despite testing positive.
I know of a fella who isolated whilst caring for & sharing a bed with his Mrs. who was positive with bad symptoms...he never caught it!
I've also heard of people getting told incorrectly to isolate via the App due to bluetooth connecting through internal walls & ceilings etc.


Anyhow, its nearly that time of day...I'll be off shortly to get my winter coat on so I can stand 2 metres away from my mates in a windy wet beer garden for a few scoops.....probably be illegal up here next week.

Happy Friday folks.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,376
Employees who work for UK firms forced to shut by law because of coronavirus restrictions will get two-thirds of their wages paid for by the government.

Chancellor Rishi Sunak said it was an "expansion" of the Job Support Scheme, which begins on 1 November and will be available for six months.
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This is good news at face value at least. Will be interesting to see more details of this as they become available.

The cynic in me is drawn to the phrase "firms forced to shut by law". How does that work for, as an example, a wedding venue who has had all their bookings postponed. Legally weddings can still happen but with limited numbers, would they be covered? And then of course how will they deal with the knock on effect. To use the same example there's no law stopping a florist working but if they are a wedding specialist they won't have any orders, are they included?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,377
Nick said:
Why is all of the focus on shutting pubs when the majority is students?
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my sister has tested positive, got her results yesterday. A couple of days previous she text me and said it's becoming rife again. She's a nurse but doesn't work on the 'front line'. Looks after kids with complex care needs.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,378
shmmeee said:
The one thing I would say for shutting pubs is that it probably switches something in people’s minds. Lots of “if pubs are open why can’t I do X?” Type questions at the moment.

The student thing is funny. They can’t exactly go back on it now as you’re just getting a bunch of people infected then sending them round the country. They never should’ve opened them in the first place but the landlords wouldn’t have been happy.
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Yeah you cant send them back now, so they need to all be locked up.

Not sure why pubs are the scapegoat when infections are happening a lot more elsewhere.

How much has testing increased by?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,379
They reckon the north west is a week from hospital capacity. Another example of reporting at a national level that doesn't capture severity
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,380
Nick said:
How much has testing increased by?
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Aren't some unis doing their own testing? If they're testing everyone then its not a surprise the numbers have shot up as we know there's loads of people who get it and don't show symptoms so would never normally get a test.

Although I'm not sure how many tests they can be doing given that it was only a couple of weeks ago it was being claimed the whole country had reached the capacity for processing tests and it would take weeks to add any more.
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,381
Looking at the testing figures the UK has tested more than double every other EU country, and compare our testing to the likes of Mexico and South American country's you can see how bad they have it .
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,382
Is there a graph with the numbers of tests done side by side with the number of cases?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,383
Nick said:
Yeah you cant send them back now, so they need to all be locked up.

Not sure why pubs are the scapegoat when infections are happening a lot more elsewhere.

How much has testing increased by?
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the government are saying 30% of cases are down to pubs and restaurants, hardly scapegoating if true.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,384
Sweden's minister for Higher Education said:
If you go to a party and get infected, you put those close to you [at risk]. Your friends, your professor, the staff at your local supermarket, the person next to you in the library,
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,385
clint van damme said:
the government are saying 30% of cases are down to pubs and restaurants, hardly scapegoating if true.
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Im sure I saw something about 4% and about 30 odd percent were students?

It might have been old figures then.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,386
Deleted member 5849 said:
If you go to a party and get infected, you put those close to you [at risk]. Your friends, your professor, the staff at your local supermarket, the person next to you in the library,
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That isn't just parties though is it?

Especially if you are still coming into contact with your friends, professor, people in the library and people in shops.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,387
Nick said:
Im sure I saw something about 4% and about 30 odd percent were students?

It might have been old figures then.
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I'd imagine there's going to be quite a large crossover between students and pub goers!
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,388
Nick said:
That isn't just parties though is it?

Especially if you are still coming into contact with your friends, professor, people in the library and people in shops.
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The point being, there's been a lot of talk, on this board and elsewhere, about just let students get it as they won't be affected.

But that completely misses the fact others may well be.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,389

is that Professor Wearyourmaskmyson
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 9, 2020
  • #33,390
If 70% of school and workplace followed by in the home, who knows

But it was said Schools opening may result in another sector being turned off, should/when a spike results.
 
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