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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,321
Kieranp96 said:
They will just call up retired and medical students again.
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I was including them in my thoughts. Far more likely staff will be off sick this time of year and even with a little thing they'll not want to take any chances.
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,322
Deleted member 5849 said:
What that doesn't necessarily show is the percentage of people who visit those places who end up contracting the virus? I noticed supermarket (working in) at the bottom and, initially, thought that was reassuring. But I'm guessing there are far, far less working in a supermarket, than shopping in it...
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It's also removed most workplaces and education from the figures which makes them pointless.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,323
David O'Day said:
It's also removed most workplaces and education from the figures which makes them pointless.
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Yeah, if they're the major contributors, you're just fiddling around at the edges if you ignore them, and focus on other bits.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,324
David O'Day said:
It's also removed most workplaces and education from the figures which makes them pointless.
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over 40% information is missing, that lot adds up to 58.4%

Also that guy is popular- 45 unread messages
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,325
Ring Of Steel said:
over 40% information is missing, that lot adds up to 58.4%

Also that guy is popular- 45 unread messages
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Pah that's nothing, my work account has 968 and rising. I'm not popular, just apathetic.
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,326
Ring Of Steel said:
over 40% information is missing, that lot adds up to 58.4%

Also that guy is popular- 45 unread messages
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It shows hospitality may account for 23.6 of all possible contacts while ignoring 2 settings that could also add up to 41.6% of contacts.

Also as you have to check into hospitality and give names etc it is easier to count these contacts than supermarkets etc where you don't know who anyone else so unless the person testing positive has the app and there are people with the app in the there they will go untracked and uncounted.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,327
David O'Day said:
It shows hospitality may account for 23.6 of all possible contacts while ignoring 2 settings that could also add up to 41.6% of contacts.

Also as you have to check into hospitality and give names etc it is easier to count these contacts than supermarkets etc where you don't know who anyone else so unless the person testing positive has the app and there are people with the app in the there they will go untracked and uncounted.
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It’s about ruining people’s businesses and livelihoods while also removing anything enjoyable from day to day life. Sure fire way to maintain compliance
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,328
Basically the whole point of that slide is to make hospitality look like the largest source of potential infection.

Also contacts reached is now below 70%
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,329
As an aside (and it's my phone's fault, rather than the app) I keep getting warned that tracing isn't turned on when my phone has gone into standby mode. Given that's the mode it'll be in whenever I'm out among the public, I'd suggest it won't be that useful...
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,330
Deleted member 5849 said:
As an aside (and it's my phone's fault, rather than the app) I keep getting warned that tracing isn't turned on when my phone has gone into standby mode. Given that's the mode it'll be in whenever I'm out among the public, I'd suggest it won't be that useful...
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world beating
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,331
David O'Day said:
world beating
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Like I said, tbf it's my phone that's anything but world beating in this instance.

Blame OnePlus!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,332

1,600 more students in Newcastle test positive for Covid-19

The latest data on the outbreak was revealed on the day that both universities move most of their teaching online in response to rising Covid-19 numbers
www.chroniclelive.co.uk
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,333
I've got the app and twice have had an exposure alert but can't find anywhere to look up further info in relation to it
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,334
fernandopartridge said:
I've got the app and twice have had an exposure alert but can't find anywhere to look up further info in relation to it
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Yeah, snap. Couple of newspaper articles on it today though. It’s a glitch generated by Apple/Google’s underlying framework. Nothing to worry about (unless app tells you to self isolate)
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,335
This has been said by numerous experts for a while now
 

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Kieranp96

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,336
Saddlebrains said:
This has been said by numerous experts for a while now
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And that's why it's spreading so fast but all it takes is one wrong mutation and boom, it starts killing more people.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,337
Kieranp96 said:
And that's why it's spreading so fast but all it takes is one wrong mutation and boom, it starts killing more people.
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But this is the point I've been trying to make. As has @Brighton Sky Blue

We cannot shut down the country for something 80 odd percent of people dont even know they have, based on worry it might mutate.

They say europe is 3- 4 weeks ahead of us.

Still over there the deaths are minimal. No hospitals over run. A second tightening of restrictions surely cant be the right way to deal with it?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,338
Saddlebrains said:
But this is the point I've been trying to make. As has @Brighton Sky Blue

We cannot shut down the country for something 80 odd percent of people dont even know they have, based on worry it might mutate.

They say europe is 3- 4 weeks ahead of us.

Still over there the deaths are minimal. No hospitals over run. A second tightening of restrictions surely cant be the right way to deal with it?
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To be fair I think 80% is an overestimate but it’s at least 40-45%. As time goes on we are going to have to accept that this virus is in the community and people will go off with it as they already do with common illnesses. All I want to know specifically is when I’ll be allowed out of my box to give someone a sheet
 
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SBT

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,339
Ring Of Steel said:
The mindset of the people who question what "the real truth" is and think its all a scam to control them is nuts

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This is nothing, only last year there were troops in uniform all around my neighbourhood demanding passers-by hand over money. I wasn't even looking to buy a poppy.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,340
Saddlebrains said:
But this is the point I've been trying to make. As has @Brighton Sky Blue

We cannot shut down the country for something 80 odd percent of people dont even know they have, based on worry it might mutate.

They say europe is 3- 4 weeks ahead of us.

Still over there the deaths are minimal. No hospitals over run. A second tightening of restrictions surely cant be the right way to deal with it?
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We are averaging more cases per day than anywhere in Europe now, they predicted wrong, deaths are climbing slowly and so are people on ventalators
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,341
Saddlebrains said:
But this is the point I've been trying to make. As has @Brighton Sky Blue

We cannot shut down the country for something 80 odd percent of people dont even know they have, based on worry it might mutate.

They say europe is 3- 4 weeks ahead of us.

Still over there the deaths are minimal. No hospitals over run. A second tightening of restrictions surely cant be the right way to deal with it?
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It's rather selective as it is only looking at symptoms on the day of the test itself
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,342
Kieranp96 said:
We are averaging more cases per day than anywhere in Europe now, they predicted wrong, deaths are climbing slowly and so are people on ventalators
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And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?


And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

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Kieranp96

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,343
Saddlebrains said:
And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?


And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

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I don't think we will hit the heights of the last wave but at the same time I know the risk are still there, if it gets into the elderly deaths will sky rocket.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,344
fernandopartridge said:
It's rather selective as it is only looking at symptoms on the day of the test itself
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Agree, but this isn't the only study to have been done to show this we've had them posted on this thread before.




On a serious note where is @SkyBlueDom26 ?

Not seen him on here for ages
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,345
Nottingham at 680 odd per 100000.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,346
Saddlebrains said:
Agree, but this isn't the only study to have been done to show this we've had them posted on this thread before.




On a serious note where is @SkyBlueDom26 ?

Not seen him on here for ages
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As said in the other thread, I PM'd him earlier in September to see how he was but he didn't reply.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,347
fernandopartridge said:
This is interesting


Weird that no trace for workplace nor public transport though
In fact, not just weird but convenient for these mendacious cunts
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Am I reading that right? In a country with 561,815 confirmed cases they're using a sample of 408 people?

Don't think they should take out work and education settings. The fact they have no intention of shutting them or putting restrictions in place is irrelevant. You can still show the data and justify your decisions.

What does "exposure groups for eating out, supermarkets, other shopping and holidays have been aggregated" mean? They're all listed individually in the table.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,348
Brighton Sky Blue said:
As said in the other thread, I PM'd him earlier in September to see how he was but he didn't reply.
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Thats not good.

@Nick Is there anyway you can see any last log in etc? He seemed down before he left
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,349
Saddlebrains said:
And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?


And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

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Explain that- “the knock on effect of this virus is now becoming worse than the virus”.

What are the ‘knock on effects’ that are worse than the deaths, I’d be fascinated to hear your view.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,350
Saddlebrains said:
Thats not good.

@Nick Is there anyway you can see any last log in etc? He seemed down before he left
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He was last seen 20th September.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,351
Kieranp96 said:
He was last seen 20th September.
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Dont like that
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,352
Saddlebrains said:
And deaths still, 4 weeks or more into the second wave, are minimal. 77 deaths today. Every death is a tragedy of course. But how many people died from cancer today? Suicide? Alzheimers?


And yes you will say 'you cant catch cancer', no you cant but when the knock on effect of this is now becoming worse than the virus.

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That is not minimal deaths by any means, and its 77 within an arbitrary 28 days of infection, there will have been around 20% more than that.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,353
Saddlebrains said:
Thats not good.

@Nick Is there anyway you can see any last log in etc? He seemed down before he left
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As a young lad you'd hope it'd be easier to find him on socials. Must be someone who knows him out of here?
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,354
Back everyone, just needed a break for a bit but things are all good now back to work the first week of November! Thanks everyone anyway
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 8, 2020
  • #33,355
Saddlebrains said:
Agree, but this isn't the only study to have been done to show this we've had them posted on this thread before.




On a serious note where is @SkyBlueDom26 ?

Not seen him on here for ages
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Back mate hope you are well
 
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