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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,216
shmmeee said:
Yeah in an ideal world we’d have the resource to do proper track and trace and shit down clusters.

Life expectancy was mostly pedantry but there is a serious point about assuming anyone past 80 has “had their time”
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Yeah, I obviously didn’t mean it like that (sorry if it came across that way)
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,217
chiefdave said:
When you say it is doable what do you consider an acceptable number of deaths to achieve herd immunity?
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As many as it takes so long as I can believe the memes on Facebook or Instagram or Twitter that can blame others for everything that happens and it doesn’t affect me personally

Anyway we just need to be fearless and we will beat it even if we do get infected. The answer isn’t herd immunity it’s fearlessness and optimism and positivity

Wtaf
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,218
Saddlebrains said:
It is an interesting theory though. I'm not saying do it, but if we take into account they say antibody immunity last between 3-6 months, and t-cell immunity forever, you've gotta assume its now doable, to at least get us through winter?

If im talking out my arse let me know
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Sweden tried it and eventually admitted defeat saying they got it wrong.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,219
Saddlebrains said:
It is an interesting theory though. I'm not saying do it, but if we take into account they say antibody immunity last between 3-6 months, and t-cell immunity forever, you've gotta assume its now doable, to at least get us through winter?

If im talking out my arse let me know
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We still don't know the full consequences of people who are basically alright, either. There's certainly an argument you hold off anything like herd immunity type scenarios until you can be sure they're not too debilitating.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,220
Anyway, work now getting in a tizz about when is a cough a cough, and when should you not come in?

I was quite comfortable the cough I've had for the past month, and now the ever so slight shortness of breath, was linked to what usually happens in the colder damper weather for me. Now? I'm ever so slightly paranoid!

Guess this is our future for the next few months!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,221
Always rate Tim Harford, very much my thoughts on the lockdown skeptic scientists.

 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,222
shmmeee said:
Always rate Tim Harford, very much my thoughts on the lockdown skeptic scientists.

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Excellent quote
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,223

Covid-19: Is the UK carrying out more tests than anywhere else in Europe?

Last week at Prime Minister’s Questions Boris Johnson claimed that the UK was now carrying out more covid-19 tests than anywhere else in Europe. In response to a question from the Labour Party leader, Keir Starmer, the prime minister said, “Not only are we getting the pandemic under control...
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Being as it is claimed almost daily .
You'd assume prevailance would likely inflate demand?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,224
wingy said:

Covid-19: Is the UK carrying out more tests than anywhere else in Europe?

Last week at Prime Minister’s Questions Boris Johnson claimed that the UK was now carrying out more covid-19 tests than anywhere else in Europe. In response to a question from the Labour Party leader, Keir Starmer, the prime minister said, “Not only are we getting the pandemic under control...
www.bmj.com
Being as it is claimed almost daily .
You'd assume prevailance would likely inflate demand?
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Yep New Zealand are rubbish at testing people
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,225
The news today all seems pretty gloomy. Record numbers and increasing restrictions in many places around Europe.
Pubs, bars, restaurants and cafes across central Scotland, including Glasgow and Edinburgh, will be forced to close for two weeks from Friday.
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Given the way things have gone so far can see this happening in England in a couple of weeks. Same is happening in Paris and in Brussels to try and get things back under some sort of control.

The Pasteur Institute is warning critical care beds in Paris will be at capacity by the end of the month just with covid patients. BBC reports patients with other critical conditions are already either being deferred treatment or moved to hospitals outside the Paris region.

In todays PMQs Johnson was asked for the evidence behind the 10pm pub closures and couldn't answer. Was also asked about local lockdowns and why 19 out of 20 areas in lockdown had seen cases rise, no answer for that either.

The only positive news seems to be that New Zealand are back to the lowest alert level nationwide following their breakout. Auckland was the last place under restrictions and now with zero new cases those have been removed.

Still, at least the billionaires are doing well out of it.
The wealth of the world's billionaires grew by more than a quarter (27%) during the height of the coronavirus between April-July to reach $10.2tn (£7.9tn), a new report says.
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,226
The additional Scottish measures are fucking stupid as hospitality is not a main driver of infection at the moment.

It's a government without a clue making stupid gesture politics.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,227
David O'Day said:
The additional Scottish measures are fucking stupid as hospitality is not a main driver of infection at the moment.

It's a government without a clue making stupid gesture politics.
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If you ran the country we'd be covid free and you could introduce a 1% income tax increase to fund the Real IRA.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,228
David O'Day said:
The additional Scottish measures are fucking stupid as hospitality is not a main driver of infection at the moment.

It's a government without a clue making stupid gesture politics.
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Is it household transmissions mainly then?
 

Mcbean

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,229
Can you imagine if Sturgeon closed the takeaways 95% of Scots would starve !
 

Ian1779

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,230
I’ll be very interested to see what the Scottish education system will roll out now they’ve cancelled next years National 5 exam series.
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,231
Sky Blue Pete said:
Is it household transmissions mainly then?
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The last PHE figures showed that Hospitality was a single figure percentage cause of outbreaks
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,232
David O'Day said:
The last PHE figures showed that Hospitality was a single figure percentage cause of outbreaks
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Isn’t that because there’s no hospitality though? Kinda like theoffice argument from the landlords?
 
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Covstu

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,233
stergeon just put the whole of scotland on stoptober!
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,234
shmmeee said:
Isn’t that because there’s no hospitality though? Kinda like theoffice argument from the landlords?
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This was pre curfew figure when pubs were available after 10pm
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,235
Mandatory mask wearing outdoors in Italy now for a week, bit weird.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,236

 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,237
This is interesting if unsurprising

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,238
Ian1779 said:
I’ll be very interested to see what the Scottish education system will roll out now they’ve cancelled next years National 5 exam series.
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Gives schools advance notice to cheat
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,239
fernandopartridge said:
This is interesting if unsurprising

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Virtually all of them student areas which adds more weight to conclusion it is education and universities which are driving the explosion in cases. Yet the government will close pubs instead.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,240
fernandopartridge said:
This is interesting if unsurprising

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Real interesting. Surprised (and pleased) not more Birmingham entries. Selly oak is very much Birmingham uni area. Looks like a fair chunk of the spike is being driven by uni’s returning...not from general population
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,241
David O'Day said:
Virtually all of them student areas which adds more weight to conclusion it is education and universities which are driving the explosion in cases. Yet the government will close pubs instead.
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The crèche must stay open
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,242
Anyone been keeping an eye on German numbers recently? They've jumped from 400 per day about 3 weeks ago and now are over 3.5k cases a day, I wonder if football fans in Germany will be restricted again from entering grounds.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,243
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Gives schools advance notice to cheat
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This is where the Scottish version of HMI/OFSTED need to get involved to formally ratify each set of school submissions.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,244
Also looking at the MSOA map the centre of Cov has risen to 17 cases in a 7 day period but Cannon Park is the definite driver for Coventry cases
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,245
CCFCSteve said:
Real interesting. Surprised (and pleased) not more Birmingham entries. Selly oak is very much Birmingham uni area. Looks like a fair chunk of the spike is being driven by uni’s returning...not from general population
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Oh yeah, of the places I know on there Manchester and Leeds, every MSOA is proper studentville
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,246
fernandopartridge said:
Oh yeah, of the places I know on there Manchester and Leeds, every MSOA is proper studentville
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Is Crumpsall studenty now? What next Cheetham Hill?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,247
Ian1779 said:
This is where the Scottish version of HMI/OFSTED need to get involved to formally ratify each set of school submissions.
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The problem is those National 5s are one year courses (OH taught in Scotland for a few years) so the data available is tiny compared to what you or I would have for Year 11s.
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,248
What is MSOA? Is it just a way of dividing the country up into chunks with each having roughly the same population?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,249
David O'Day said:
Is Crumpsall studenty now? What next Cheetham Hill?
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Oh actually that is a bit of an odd one. That said, it is relatively close to Salford Uni but don't think it's a big student area
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 7, 2020
  • #33,250
David O'Day said:
The last PHE figures showed that Hospitality was a single figure percentage cause of outbreaks
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How are they pinpointing exactly where people got it without reliable testing or tracing in place? Be interesting to know the methodology in use.

For example person A goes to work in an office, then stops at the supermarket on the way home, picks up a takeaway from a restaurant and takes it home to a house shared with his family. Later on goes to the pub and when that shuts at 10pm back to his mates house. How are PHE determining where he became infected when he tests positive?
 
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