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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,296
shmmeee said:
I’ve seen no evidence of mutation to a new strain that’s less dangerous for example.
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I'll cheer you up by at least suggesting we haven't seen evidence of mutation to a new strain that's more dangerous yet, either.

Now there's a thought for a Thursday...
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,297
Skybluefaz said:
Stanley Johnson breaks all manner of rules to fuck off to his holiday home in Greece, I look forward to the excuses for this one.
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Eye test.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,298
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,299
Saddlebrains said:
Love an argument you do dont you, id hate to see your blood pressure. Chill
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But can you explain how a sovereign currency issuer with it's own central bank can go bankrupt?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,300
Skybluefaz said:
Stanley Johnson breaks all manner of rules to fuck off to his holiday home in Greece, I look forward to the excuses for this one.
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How could he have done that when Greece isn’t letting anyone in from the UK till the 15th?
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,301
fernandopartridge said:
The reported COVID deaths 43k currently, are those with a positive test.

There are an addition 11k or so where COVID is mentioned on the death certificate.

It is absurd how you think this government, who has played down the seriousness of this to the extent that their have been thousands of unnecessary deaths, is somehow inflating the numbers!

Where are you getting your data on UHCW from? Pillar 1 testing data suggests six cases over the last couple of weeks, seems pretty inconceivable that none of those are in hospital.

Area name Area code Area type Specimen date Daily lab-confirmed cases
Coventry E08000026 Upper tier local authority 01/07/2020 0
Coventry E08000026 Upper tier local authority 30/06/2020 1
Coventry E08000026 Upper tier local authority 27/06/2020 1
Coventry E08000026 Upper tier local authority 23/06/2020 1
Coventry E08000026 Upper tier local authority 20/06/2020 2
Coventry E08000026 Upper tier local authority 19/06/2020 1
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Im getting it from an actual NHS occ therapist that works at UHCW everyday. Said person is now back on stroke department not Covid. Id say that is pretty reliable
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,302
Brighton Sky Blue said:
How could he have done that when Greece isn’t letting anyone in from the UK till the 15th?
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He flew via Bulgaria and said Sofia was the origin of his journey. Clever hey?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,303
Skybluefaz said:
He flew via Bulgaria and said Sofia was the origin of his journey. Clever hey?
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So I see, in order to ‘COVID proof his property’. Couldn’t pay some Greeks to do it for him then.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,304
Skybluefaz said:
He flew via Bulgaria and said Sofia was the origin of his journey. Clever hey?
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tbf you can't choose your family (as Johnson's brother and sister would be keen to tell you!). As long as the Prime Minister robustly condemns this, there's no issue. I'm sure he will do just that...
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,305
Saddlebrains said:
Im getting it from an actual NHS occ therapist that works at UHCW everyday. Said person is now back on stroke department not Covid. Id say that is pretty reliable
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Fair enough, assume the trust must be reporting internally about it
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,306
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So I see, in order to ‘COVID proof his property’. Couldn’t pay some Greeks to do it for him then.
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They are laughing at us. Great look to have the PM's dad totally fuck off the rules ahead of the pubs opening and during the Leicester lockdown.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,307
Skybluefaz said:
They are laughing at us. Great look to have the PM's dad totally fuck off the rules ahead of the pubs opening and during the Leicester lockdown.
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I have to keep remembering that it’s the teaching unions that are the problem but they’re not making it easy.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,308
fernandopartridge said:
Fair enough, assume the trust must be reporting internally about it
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Ironically they used to have daily briefings, but this is now weekly, in regards to patient numbers etc. There is still a Covid ward set up at UHCW incase of any sort of spike in the area, so they are prepared, however the 4 or 5 wards that were re purposed are now back to normal. Good news i suppose
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,309
clint van damme said:
imagine if we were governed by people with principles

Coronavirus: New Zealand's health minister resigns after series of COVID-19 lockdown blunders
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If it wasn't such a serious situation it would be laughable. Look at what he's resigned over.
He twice broke the rules, once by going mountain biking near his home in Dunedin, and again when he drove around 12 miles to the coast to take a walk with his family.

Announcing his resignation, he said continuing in the role was "distracting" from the government's fight against coronavirus, but he would remain in parliament as a backbencher.
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Resigning so he doesn't cause a distraction.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,310
chiefdave said:
If it wasn't such a serious situation it would be laughable. Look at what he's resigned over.

Resigning so he doesn't cause a distraction.
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Difference is our government welcome the distraction.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,311
Saddlebrains said:
Ironically they used to have daily briefings, but this is now weekly, in regards to patient numbers etc. There is still a Covid ward set up at UHCW incase of any sort of spike in the area, so they are prepared, however the 4 or 5 wards that were re purposed are now back to normal. Good news i suppose
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Let's hope it stays that way
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,312
Saddlebrains said:
More could have Covid immunity than tests suggest


Covid-19 immunity could be twice as high as believed, Swedish study finds


No antibodies? You could still have had Covid by fighting it off with T-cells

Do Lockdowns Work? Mounting Evidence Says No | Ryan McMaken

Coronavirus is ‘weakening’ and virus will die out Italian expert says



Here are some links if anyone would like to read. Again, not saying this is all over etc, but as i say, there is more to this than gets reported. There is progress out there, and there are chances it could die out, a few experts saying its following SARS very closely.

But these kind of articles do help me, hopefullt could help others realise its not just horrendous news
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But equally there were reports a few weeks ago saying immunity only lasts a few months.

The only stuff I’m seeing about it not being a big deal comes from politically motivates sources. I’d rather hear it from the medics TBH.

Deleted member 5849 said:
I'll cheer you up by at least suggesting we haven't seen evidence of mutation to a new strain that's more dangerous yet, either.

Now there's a thought for a Thursday...
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Do viruses mutate to be more dangerous? More infectious sure, but surely survival of the fittest would mean a less deadly virus would last longer as it’s not killing its hosts.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 2, 2020
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,314
chiefdave said:
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And that one news story demonstrates perfectly why you can’t write off Trump winning a second term.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,315
chiefdave said:
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Won that and in with a shout of the Charles Darwin award.
Kids a winner
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,316
Plenty of anti-union talk from Williamson at the briefing
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,317
Why no figures. We cancelling them all now
 

skyblueinBaku

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,318
clint van damme said:
Won that and in with a shout of the Charles Darwin award.
Kids a winner
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And probably enough money to pay for a decent funeral.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,319
Sky Blue Pete said:
Why no figures. We cancelling them all now
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Is strange I must admit
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,320
Sky Blue Pete said:
Why no figures. We cancelling them all now
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The only thing that might be happening is a resolution to the number of people tested. Or it might be more wheezes to distract from what the numbers are
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,321
Sky Blue Pete said:
Why no figures. We cancelling them all now
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45 in the 'preliminary toll' according to the Mail. 845 new cases.
Is the preliminary toll new terminology?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,322
First day of coronavirus lockdown with no official figures on deaths or cases

Mmmmmmmm
 

Ian1779

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,323
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Plenty of anti-union talk from Williamson at the briefing
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He’s such a c**t
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,324
Interesting article about Iceland, makes you think what could have been if we'd locked down early and properly.
Iceland now feels like the coronavirus never happened
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,325
Tbf they've sorted out Pillar 2 as I suggested.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,326
No of patients in hospital is down to 2189 which is the lowest it's been since lockdown. There were 17172 on 12th April. (England only)
211 patients on a ventilator, peak was 2881 on 12th April (England only)

This data wasn't easily accessed as the time but bloody hell those numbers are high.
 

hill83

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,327
chiefdave said:
Interesting article about Iceland, makes you think what could have been if we'd locked down early and properly.
Iceland now feels like the coronavirus never happened
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Yeah but they are an island
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 2, 2020
  • #29,328
hill83 said:
Yeah but they are an island
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The one in town ain't?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #29,329
Why surviving the virus may be just the beginning

People should read this before thinking they know what they’re on about when they’ve not experienced this disease personally
 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 3, 2020
  • #29,330

oh dear Nadine

 
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