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David O'Day

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,806

hell hath no fury like a cricket community scorned
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,807
England v Pakistan: Ten players from touring squad have coronavirus
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,808
David O'Day said:

hell hath no fury like a cricket community scorned
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It lacks consistency as he said "recreation and sport will be allowed" if they weren't indoors. As someone has said on twitter, you can go to your cricket club and get pissed while maintaining minimal social distancing, all things known to increase your risk of infection, but you can't play cricket, a non-contact sport, outside.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,809
Deleted member 5849 said:
England v Pakistan: Ten players from touring squad have coronavirus
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That's players who aren't in England yet. The PCB chief exec has said "the tour to England is very much on track and the side will depart as per schedule".

The players who are currently diagnosed will be isolated and will need two negative tests before travelling to England.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,810
chiefdave said:
That's players who aren't in England yet. The PCB chief exec has said "the tour to England is very much on track and the side will depart as per schedule".

The players who are currently diagnosed will be isolated and will need two negative tests before travelling to England.
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I know that.The point being, cricket maybe isn't as benign a sport to play as it's being put about here.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,811
Deleted member 5849 said:
I know that.The point being, cricket maybe isn't as benign a sport to play as it's being put about here.
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They haven't played any cricket yet though so any pakistan players testing positive for covid-19 will not have got it playing cricket
 

Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,812
1m+. Wow. 2m distance has been very rare the whole time anyway.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,813
Deleted member 5849 said:
I know that.The point being, cricket maybe isn't as benign a sport to play as it's being put about here.
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Yet tennis is safe according to the government Djokovic tests positive for Covid-19
World number one Novak Djokovic has become the latest tennis player to test positive for Covid-19.

It comes after Grigor Dimitrov, Borna Coric and Viktor Troicki all revealed they had coronavirus after playing at Djokovic's Adria Tour competition.
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Not sure the infections in the Pakistan squad are actually down to cricket as the PCB said there was going to be no training camp in Pakistan. Its taking place in England instead. Thats why they're scheduled to travel to England so early. They're being quarantined at Derbyshire and will train and have inter-squad practice matches there.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,814
Covstu said:
We kept our youngest off school (yr1) not for concerns around safety but her big sister (yr4) couldnt go back so it would damage both of them by splitting them up. Hopefully both can go back soon even for a few weeks
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I don’t think there will be any additional years returning this side of the summer break, especially as the 1m plus doesn’t kick in until July 4th.

Every primary setting is so different based on size of cohort, size of physical buildings etc. A lot of primaries are making effective use of outside space to ensure adequate distancing.

As Brighton said earlier - for there to be a 100% return in September then that means there will be no social distancing in place.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,815
Whitty and Vallance making it very clear that we're not 'following the science' anymore and the changes announced are not what has been advised by SAGE.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,816
chiefdave said:
Whitty and Vallance making it very clear that we're not 'following the science' anymore and the changes announced are not what has been advised by SAGE.
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But Dom said!
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,817
Infections 920 excellent
280 deaths not so good

Iran definitely having another wave

India looking awful with Brazil and Mexico
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,818
Tommo1993 said:
1m+. Wow. 2m distance has been very rare the whole time anyway.
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The trouble with 1 metre is that it's almost at the point of having no distance at all, it's like all distancing measures have been axed. At 2 metres it's a clear space. At 1 metre it might be easy to simply forget.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,819
I'm not sure I get within one metre of my nearest and dearest!
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,820

Cricket is not amused
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,821
chiefdave said:
Whitty and Vallance making it very clear that we're not 'following the science' anymore and the changes announced are not what has been advised by SAGE.
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this was decided on weeks ago. Science, R number, number of deaths etc were not considered when making this decison.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,822
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Is she primary or secondary?
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Shes primary, in reception
 

Covstu

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,823
Ian1779 said:
I don’t think there will be any additional years returning this side of the summer break, especially as the 1m plus doesn’t kick in until July 4th.

Every primary setting is so different based on size of cohort, size of physical buildings etc. A lot of primaries are making effective use of outside space to ensure adequate distancing.

As Brighton said earlier - for there to be a 100% return in September then that means there will be no social distancing in place.
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They have been talking about it at their school but time will tell I guess
 

Brylowes

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  • Jun 23, 2020
  • #28,824
Deleted member 5849 said:
What hasn't been mentioned much in among all this is all the shielded people are expected to go back to work. Now that seems a particularly odd decision to me. I can accept letting them out the house etc for their own sanity(!) but expecting them to be 1m away from people because it's not practicasl to sell more burgers otherwise...?
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I’ve been shielding (on medical advice ) since the lockdown began, my son had to move out
6 weeks ago when he returned to work, my 8 y/o daughter hasn’t been able to go out ‘even
for a walk, we haven’t been able to seen any other family members inc my elderly mum.
We also happen to run a pub ‘called the hospital yesterday to seek advice on what we are
Supposed to do now that pubs are reopening ‘was advised it was fine as long as I adhere
To social distancing.
Turns out shielding was never really about keeping me safe,
It was always about keeping the NHS safe.
 

pipkin73

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,825
Went on a boat trip last Tuesday, had such a good time. No one worried about social distancing as we are clear here.
What we have said, is once tourists come back (we need you all to survive) then we will start being more serious about it.
This is the same problem for many places, hard lockdown and clear but without tourists the places will be gone by next year, so we have to risk it.
 

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David O'Day

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,826
Easing several lockdown rules at once could boost virus, say UK scientists

You remember Dom saying the SAGE experts had declared this as say?

Well well well
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,827
David O'Day said:
Easing several lockdown rules at once could boost virus, say UK scientists

You remember Dom saying the SAGE experts had declared this as say?

Well well well
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How many times? We can’t hide away forever everything will come with risk
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,828

Lol
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,829
SkyBlueDom26 said:
How many times? We can’t hide away forever
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Oh many times do we have to say "We don't want to hide away forever but we want to make sure it is safe?".
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,830
SkyBlueDom26 said:

Lol
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You really are stupid.

The independence argument isn't "we don't want HMT that we pay into to help our businesses out" it's more "We think the interests of Scotland would be best served if we had our own treasury so we did't have to ask London to give us some of the North Sea Oil profits back".

We'll add Scottish independence to the bumper book of things you don't understand.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,831
David O'Day said:
You really are stupid.

The independence argument isn't "we don't want HMT that we pay into to help our businesses out" it's more "We think the interests of Scotland would be best served if we had our own treasury so we did't have to ask London to give us some of the North Sea Oil profits back".

We'll add Scottish independence to the bumper book of things you don't understand.
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The economic case for independence was weak when I voted against it and it is even weaker now. Ignoring that the Scottish nationalists will argue for it no matter how poor the case is, because at heart it’s driven by anti English sentiment.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,832
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The economic case for independence was weak when I voted against it and it is even weaker now. Ignoring that the Scottish nationalists will argue for it no matter how poor the case is, because at heart it’s driven by anti English sentiment.
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Yes the Stiglitz plan a number of holes in it and relied on always high oil prices but that isn't what Dom means is it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,833
David O'Day said:
Yes the Stiglitz plan a number of holes in it and relied on always high oil prices but that isn't what Dom means is it.
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Maybe not but the furlough scheme, funded by the central pot at Westminster, has enabled things that a Scottish treasury couldn’t afford. It has awkwardly shown Sturgeon a strength of the union
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,834
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Maybe not but the furlough scheme, funded by the central pot at Westminster, has enabled things that a Scottish treasury couldn’t afford. It has awkwardly shown Sturgeon a strength of the union
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You do realise they are borrowing the Furlough scheme money? We can't afford it either.
 

hill83

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,835
Brylowes said:
Turns out shielding was never really about keeping me safe,
It was always about keeping the NHS safe.
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As shit as that is that’s been the case from the very beginning. The first slogan basically said that.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,836
David O'Day said:
You do realise they are borrowing the Furlough scheme money? We can't afford it either.
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No, but a fledgling Scottish state wouldn’t be granted those kinds of sums or have the future ability to repay. The debt burden is spread over a much wider area here.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,837
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Maybe not but the furlough scheme, funded by the central pot at Westminster, has enabled things that a Scottish treasury couldn’t afford. It has awkwardly shown Sturgeon a strength of the union
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Scotland would have had access to the international financial markets and the ability to borrow money. What the rates for their bonds and gilts woudl be is conjecture but they would of been able to like us to borrow the money for which ever scheme an Independent Scotland would of had. Also they would of likely still been part of the EU and had access to EU money.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,838
Brighton Sky Blue said:
No, but a fledgling Scottish state wouldn’t be granted those kinds of sums or have the future ability to repay. The debt burden is spread over a much wider area here.
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That is simply not true.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,839
David O'Day said:
That is simply not true.
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It kind of is as Scotland has been given a very high budget per capita for ages which comes out of the central pot. In some years it had twice as much as NE England.
 

hill83

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  • Jun 24, 2020
  • #28,840
David O'Day said:
Scotland would have had access to the international financial markets and the ability to borrow money. What the rates for their bonds and gilts woudl be is conjecture but they would of been able to like us to borrow the money for which ever scheme an Independent Scotland would of had. Also they would of likely still been part of the EU and had access to EU money.
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Seeing as I’m on one today. Can you please start saying ‘have’ instead of ‘of’. You come across as relatively handy in a lot of subjects but using ‘of’ absolutely kills anything you say for me.
 
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