Despite the big queues helped in part by decent weather the footfalls are well down on the same period last year.Thus the outside of day 1 retail figures
It is rapidly declining, look at the numbers over the last few months
How is that?!?! Ridiculous statement he’s the one getting things reopen
Errrrr it’s common sense to think that 1m instead of 2 will have less of an impact on people’s lives and they economy, are you stupid?
Yeah I want it to be safe obviously but it needs to be sped up
Until someone picks up an infection through close contact and it results in them being hospitalised or dying. I think that would be considered having a major impact on their lives don't you?
In certain instances, such as outside for short periods of time in contact 1m would be fine. Closed indoor environment with largely stationery people 2m is probably too low. You'd be amazed at how far you can transport pathogens just with normal behaviour, let alone if someone coughs or sneezes. Did you see the research that showed just flushing your toilet can lead to the germs landing 3m away?
What model did you get? Planning on some green laining?View attachment 15531
As a little extra to myself over this difficult period, I bought a little dual sports bike. Decals arrived today.
But you weren't talking about WHO, you were saying SAGE had said the rule should be changed "SAGE confirming the virus is going away and therefore we need to cut the 2m rule ASAP" when they've done nothing of the sort.WHO recommends 1M, why are you lot so for having the 2M rule, it will kill the economy if it’s that much any longer....do you not think about how many people will lose their jobs and livelihoods?
There's also doubt from within WHO itself:Senior scientists have reported flaws in an influential World Health Organization-commissioned study into the risks of coronavirus infection and say it should not be used as evidence for relaxing the UK’s 2-metre physical distancing rule.
Critics of the distancing advice, which states that people should keep at least 2 metres apart, believe it is too cautious. They seized on the research commissioned by the WHO, which suggested a reduction from 2 metres to 1 would raise infection risk only marginally, from 1.3% to 2.6%.
But scientists who delved into the work found mistakes they believe undermine the findings to the point they cannot be relied upon when scientists and ministers are forming judgments about what constitutes safe physical distancing.
“The analysis of infection risk at 1 metre versus 2 metre should be treated with great caution,” said Prof David Spiegelhalter, a statistician at Cambridge University, who has participated in the government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies . “I’m very suspicious of it.”
Prof Kevin McConway, an applied statistician at the Open University, went further and called the analysis inappropriate. He said the work “should not be used in arguments about how much greater the infection risk is at 1-metre minimum distance as opposed to 2 metres”.
Finally if you read the actual paper being referred to it makes no mention of reducing from 2m to 1m, it talks about the effectiveness of distancing of 1m or more: "Transmission of viruses was lower with physical distancing of 1m or more, compared with a distance of less than 1m; protection was increased as distance was lengthened."Prof Ben Cowling at the WHO Collaborating Centre for Infectious Disease Epidemiology and Control at the University of Hong Kong, flagged further issues with the work. He tweeted that he was “not taking the whole paper very seriously” because it looked only at distance and not how long a person was exposed for.
McConway said he had raised questions about the analysis with the authors and was waiting to hear back. He believed peer review by the Lancet and the WHO should have spotted the problems. “I think they did it in such a rush – the authors, possibly the WHO, and the Lancet peer reviewers – that important things were missed,” he said.
This was published the other day by Sick Kids Hospital in Toronto which basically says crack on with sending kids back to school in September.Australia have no social distancing in their schools at all. But then they’ve only had 102 deaths in this entire outbreak.
HE'S ON A WIND UP EVERYONE
What was last Friday? We are looking like Iran but it is only the last few days it’s gradually increasedBeing dense here, but how can infections be going up and R0 be below 1?
Being dense here, but how can infections be going up and R0 be below 1?
Infections slightly up and 173 deaths
I do hope Dom and saddlebrains are correct but I can’t help feel much like my own family who’ve not watched as people’s lungs cease to work that unless they see it with their own eyes they won’t believe how serious it is
In the shop today loads of people meeting up for chats and putting back loads of stuff they’ve touched. It isn’t lockdown really now is it
Yep I think we’re all doomedLiterally the only thing left of lockdown is people’s own judgement and queues outside shops. Inside it’s a free for all and round by me I’m seeing people visiting each other no distancing left right and centre.
By trying to be clever and not have a lockdown but still have a lockdown they’ll probably achieve the opposite and everyone will be too worried to get the economy back without a clear sign it’s all clear.
Literally the only thing left of lockdown is people’s own judgement and queues outside shops. Inside it’s a free for all and round by me I’m seeing people visiting each other no distancing left right and centre.
By trying to be clever and not have a lockdown but still have a lockdown they’ll probably achieve the opposite and everyone will be too worried to get the economy back without a clear sign it’s all clear.
not really, only 169k test which means it's only likely to be 85k people tested.[
More testing mate
It could be regional fluctuations - there may well be parts of the UK where R is actually 1.Being dense here, but how can infections be going up and R0 be below 1?
By trying to be clever and not have a lockdown but still have a lockdown they’ll probably achieve the opposite and everyone will be too worried to get the economy back without a clear sign it’s all clear.
My missus got a letter through today inviting her to take part in the Imperial study on antibody testing
What does that entail?
A man or woman working for Royal Mail usually post them through what's known as a 'letterbox' in your front door.
I'm still none the wiser!
Edit - just looked it up. Finger prick blood sample.
Went to a supermarket for the first time today since lockdown and it was a total free for all including staff not giving a shit.
The woman working on the self service tills had to check and scan for me because of a can of red bull. No mask, right in my face. "Sorry love" makes it ok though. I didn't have time to stand back out of the way.
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