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clint van damme

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,281
skybluetony176 said:
Exactly.
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Why didn't they drag up a story about PPE, Oh yeah, they fucked that up.

Why didn't they drag up a story about lock down, Oh yeah, they fucked that up.

Why didn't they drag up a story about protecting the rights of immigrants working for the NHS on the front line, Oh yeah, they fucked that up.

Why didn't they drag up a story about how they protected care homes, Oh yeah they fucked that up.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,282
Brighton Sky Blue said:
To be fair, AZ are more than reliable enough to take on the job of producing it but I don't agree with rushing it before it's even been approved.
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And the Oxford University Virology dept is one of the best in the world. The issue is it is still very much at testing as it was weeks ago when it was first mentioned.

If the 2nd round of testing is promising then maybe but they will still need to test further. Unless they are doing away with the 3rd part the next step would be to let other research departments around the world conduct controlled testing to see if they get the same results.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,283
David O'Day said:
Unless they are doing away with the 3rd part the next step would be to let other research departments around the world conduct controlled testing to see if they get the same results.
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They've merged phase 2 and phase 3 into one trial to speed things up.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,284
chiefdave said:
They've merged phase 2 and phase 3 into one trial to speed things up.
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So it'll take longer to do stage 2 then as they'll have multiple studies to compare to the original stage results.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,285
chiefdave said:
They've merged phase 2 and phase 3 into one trial to speed things up.
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Hmmm. I know it might delay things, but personally I'd be happier if they followed usual process.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,286
Another place near to Cov


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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,287
Deleted member 5849 said:
Hmmm. I know it might delay things, but personally I'd be happier if they followed usual process.
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Oh what and wait years and years? One of the stupidest comments I’ve ever seen, we need to end this and fast so it doesn’t keep coming back
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,288
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Oh what and wait years and years? One of the stupidest comments I’ve ever seen, we need to end this and fast so it doesn’t keep coming back
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So we need to be sure the vaccine a) works and b) is safe for use. Just rushing it out does more harm than good.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,289
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Oh what and wait years and years? One of the stupidest comments I’ve ever seen, we need to end this and fast so it doesn’t keep coming back
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So the best way to fix something is do a half arsed job of it and rush it? Yeah that always works and problems never resurface......
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,290
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Oh what and wait years and years? One of the stupidest comments I’ve ever seen, we need to end this and fast so it doesn’t keep coming back
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He was on about just waiting until the prototype had been approved you dunce. That won't take years and years.

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Ian1779

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,291
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Oh what and wait years and years? One of the stupidest comments I’ve ever seen, we need to end this and fast so it doesn’t keep coming back
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You realise those two statements completely contradict each other?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,292
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Because if it's not passed or needs to be altered it's a big waste of money, raw materials and brainpower.
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Depends how many you have to do it with. Opening up the economy fully six months earlier will be worth trillions, as long as you don’t waste much before you hit a vaccine you’re up. Of course if there is no vaccine you throw billions away for nothing. Or if it goes away anyway.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,293
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So we need to be sure the vaccine a) works and b) is safe for use. Just rushing it out does more harm than good.
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But we can’t wait years for it, how is years of it coming back going to do any good
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,294
fernandopartridge said:
dunce.
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Haven’t heard that one in years lol
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,295
shmmeee said:
Depends how many you have to do it with. Opening up the economy fully six months earlier will be worth trillions, as long as you don’t waste much before you hit a vaccine you’re up. Of course if there is no vaccine you throw billions away for nothing. Or if it goes away anyway.
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I see what you're saying, I just think that thrown in with the other expensive punts the government has gone on it makes sense to accelerate the testing so we get an answer quicker, rather than mass produce it and have it not pass.

SkyBlueDom26 said:
But we can’t wait years for it, how is years of it coming back going to do any good
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It wouldn't take years to get enough test data to be satisfied that it works and is safe. Would you be happy taking an untested medicine? Of course not.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 18, 2020
  • #28,296
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It wouldn't take years to get enough test data to be satisfied that it works and is safe. Would you be happy taking an untested medicine? Of course not.
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Exactly a few months which we are doing now
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,297
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Exactly a few months which we are doing now
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Well yeah we're testing it I just want the testing done before we start making it. It's not a big problem surely?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,298
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well yeah we're testing it I just want the testing done before we start making it. It's not a big problem surely?
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Yes it is a problem though! So fine the testing all works and it’s approved! Then we’ll have to wait weeks/months for it to be scaled up and available to use.....thankfully the government are making it so that once it hopefully gets approved it will be straight away given to those that most need it


It’s crazy what you are suggesting, basically that if one works we’ll then have to wait months for it to be scaled up to give the public
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,299
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Yes it is a problem though! So fine the testing all works and it’s approved! Then we’ll have to wait weeks/months for it to be scaled up and available to use.....thankfully the government are making it so that once it hopefully gets approved it will be straight away given to those that most need it


It’s crazy what you are suggesting, basically that if one works we’ll then have to wait months for it to be scaled up to give the public
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All I'm saying is get enough evidence that it works and has no unintended side effects. Otherwise you're asking people to take a placebo-that really is the crazy thing to do, no disrespect.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,300
SkyBlueDom26 said:
So fine the testing all works and it’s approved! Then we’ll have to wait weeks/months for it to be scaled up and available to use
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There's over 150 vaccines in development. Should we mass produce all of them before we know they are effective and safe?
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,301
Brighton Sky Blue said:
All I'm saying is get enough evidence that it works and has no unintended side effects. Otherwise you're asking people to take a placebo-that really is the crazy thing to do, no disrespect.
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All disrespect

I'm not sure he can eat and breath at the the same time
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,302
Coronavirus outbreaks in city and at meat factory

It's going away on it's own
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,303
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Oh what and wait years and years? One of the stupidest comments I’ve ever seen, we need to end this and fast so it doesn’t keep coming back
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Utterly stupid to develop a vaccine properly? My word, you're a moron and a half.

Dunno what you're worried about anyway, you're off to the pub because you're not scared.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,304
Brighton Sky Blue said:
All I'm saying is get enough evidence that it works and has no unintended side effects. Otherwise you're asking people to take a placebo-that really is the crazy thing to do, no disrespect.
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I don't want to be given something where process is shortcut, either. By all means accelerate it, but don't shortcut.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,305
SkyBlueDom26 said:
But we can’t wait years for it, how is years of it coming back going to do any good
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You’re talking like we have a choice. You do realise that this drug failed when tested on animals?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,306
David O'Day said:
All disrespect

I'm not sure he can eat and breath at the the same time
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Trying to be as fair as I can
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,307
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Trying to be as fair as I can
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So is David
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,308
Coronavirus vaccine trial by Imperial College London begins

This is only at stage 1 but with its self amplifying synthetic strands if it works it could be the game changer.

But let us not put any stupid dates on it
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,309
I think there’s two things here. Doms right that starting manufacturing ahead of time is probably a good idea *if that vaccine is showing promise*. Others are right that we have to be careful to pick a winner because of the cost. I’m not sure any of us aside maybe BSB know enough to know if this vaccine shows the right amount of promise in comparison to the 150 others.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,310
David O'Day said:
All disrespect

I'm not sure he can eat and breath at the the same time
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Posting at 4:13 am?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,311
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Posting at 4:13 am?
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And?

Is that really the best comeback you have? That I have been up since 4am? FFS Dom I thought referring to me as a "sauceless geeza" was pitiful but wow you have really topped yourself there.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,312
Anyway let's let the adults in the room talk hey Dum.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,313
Dom your wiki page needs updating

Incel - Wikipedia
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,314
David O'Day said:
Dom your wiki page needs updating

Incel - Wikipedia
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Did anyone ever tell you your hilarious
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 19, 2020
  • #28,315
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Did anyone ever tell you your hilarious
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Says the man who used "Sauceless Geeza" as an insult.
 
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