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The coventrian

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,021
David O'Day said:
I was brought up Irish Wayne.

Registered on the foreign births register.

It's the law Wayne

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Ok plastic dave.
Were you born in Ireland? Yes or no.
It's a simple question plastic dave.
 
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The coventrian

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,022
David O'Day said:
He was born in Nea York.

So by your logic he's noe English.

Wayne if you have a problem of this don't blame me just blame the good friday agreement

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He's not english by birth.
 
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The coventrian

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,023
Plastic dave,how can you be brought up Irish if you've never lived there?
 
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The coventrian

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,024
I went to Turkey once I think I'll identify as a turk from now on.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,025
shmmeee said:
I think the whole concept of nationality is silly TBH. From a technical point if you’re born there that’s your nationality. But identity is funny. I know people who aren’t black but have black heritage and are proud of it, ditto Scots/Welsh/Irish/African/Indian.
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Albert Einstein- "nationalism is the measles of humankind"
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,026
The coventrian said:
I went to Turkey once I think I'll identify as a turk from now on.
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I didn't know you had Turkish parentage
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,027
The coventrian said:
So hes American by birth then yes?
That twat david has Irish parentage but was born here,has never lived in Ireland but would rather identify as Irish for some freak reason. You think that's normal?
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Most African-Americans have never been near Africa and their families haven't been to Africa in generations. Still identify as African-American rather than just American. We have a similar thing here with Indian/Pakistani communities that have never set foot in those countries but identify as such.

My auntie was born in Belfast but was brought here after two days. She considers herself English. Yet bizarrely she considers my other nan Welsh even though she was born here and couldn't speak any Welsh just because her Welsh parents gave her a Welsh name.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,028
shmmeee said:
I think the whole concept of nationality is silly TBH. From a technical point if you’re born there that’s your nationality. But identity is funny. I know people who aren’t black but have black heritage and are proud of it.
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Like Elizabeth Warren and her native American heritage. Although that is also probably partly due to political angle as well.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,029
The coventrian said:
I havent got a clue but I guess he doesnt pretend to be from another country. Why would you do that?
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Haha. Cometh at Patrick's Day lots of English people pretend they're Irish. Always makes me laugh.
 
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The coventrian

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,030
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Haha. Cometh at Patrick's Day lots of English people pretend they're Irish. Always makes me laugh.
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Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.
 
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The coventrian

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,031
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Haha. Cometh at Patrick's Day lots of English people pretend they're Irish. Always makes me laugh.
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Plastic dave is probably one of those myopic lot who call us racist if we dare hang our flag out on George's day.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,032
The coventrian said:
Plastic dave is probably one of those myopic lot who call us racist if we dare hang our flag out on George's day.
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.....whenever that is !
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,033
The coventrian said:
Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.
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Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent
 
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The coventrian

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,034
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent
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Shes Scottish if shes born there. What else would she be? Italian?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,035
The coventrian said:
Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.
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You don't have to have been born or lived somewhere to be of that nationality. You don't even have to have ever visited there.
 
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The coventrian

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,036
No offense but with you liberal lot anything goes doesnt it? I mean you lot cant even decide if your Male or female
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,037
The coventrian said:
Shes Scottish if shes born there. What else would she be? Italian?
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English by blood?
 
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The coventrian

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,038
PVA said:
You don't have to have been born or lived somewhere to be of that nationality. You don't even have to have ever visited there.
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So tomorrow can I say I'm Norwegian? I've never visited there but hey ho. You lot our fucking mental
 
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The coventrian

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,039
Brighton Sky Blue said:
English by blood?
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She was born in Scotland so shes Scottish. It really is that simple.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,040
The coventrian said:
So tomorrow can I say I'm Norwegian? I've never visited there but hey ho. You lot our fucking mental
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Are your parents Norwegian? If so then yes you can.

Are you on the windup?
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,041
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent
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She’s British
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,042
The coventrian said:
Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.
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He was probably conceived after a gallon of Guinness
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,043
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Is nationality defined by being born somewhere or your parents both having that nationality? Is my missus Scottish because she was born there or English because her parents are? What a bizarre tangent
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Shouldn't you be knee deep in school work ?
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,044
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
.....whenever that is !
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I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,045
I was born in England to Irish parents but spent half of my early childhood in Ireland and didn’t get a British passport until quite late.
I consider myself both but identify more as Irish, especially outside of England, maybe because of living there when younger.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,046
Ring Of Steel said:
I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?
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St Patrick’s day in the UK is utter shite.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,047
Ring Of Steel said:
I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?
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Admittedly I don't get why we ignore St George's Day so much either - just allows a space for the racists to take it over, really.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,048
Ring Of Steel said:
I've never understood the Patricks Day animosity- on St Georges Day nobody cares and nobody pretends they're English, on St Patricks Day the whole world turns green, everyone is suddenly Irish & you're subjected to the absolute worst music on planet earth all day, and some get all bent out of shape about it like its treason. Can only assume its a historical thing and a heritage thing- Patricks Day in Ireland itself is nowhere near as much of a party as it seems to be elsewhere. Its a bigger deal to hold onto that heritage when you are living away I guess. But ultimately its only an excuse for a day on the piss, a big party, its not some kind of xenophobic statement- who really cares?
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This hits the nail on the head. You could have the biggest Patrick's Day you like but no alcohol allowed and no-one would turn up.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,049
The coventrian said:
Plastic dave does it full time. He says hes Irish but he wasn't born or has never lived there lol. Apparently he was brought up Irish in willenhall in Coventry in England.

Identify crisis. I wonder if he puts the accent on and sups Guinness when he's there. If he ever goes there that is.
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I remember in Italia '90 most people I knew were supporting Ireland, not England, Cov has one of the biggest proportions of Irish of any city in the country, I think I saw it was estimated at 10% having Irish heritage.

I don't see the problem or why it matters.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,050
Deleted member 5849 said:
Admittedly I don't get why we ignore St George's Day so much either - just allows a space for the racists to take it over, really.
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Just inform them St George was a Turkish guy with dark skin.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,051
Sick Boy said:
St Patrick’s day in the UK is utter shite.
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I hate it- the music is just terrible for a start, I can't stand it. That day and Halloween- stay inside and pretend nobody is at home.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,052
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Shouldn't you be knee deep in school work ?
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Probably planning his holiday to Greece
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,053
Ring Of Steel said:
I hate it- the music is just terrible for a start, I can't stand it. That day and Halloween- stay inside and pretend nobody is at home.
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But you don’t live here and have renounced your citizenship
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,054
Deleted member 5849 said:
Admittedly I don't get why we ignore St George's Day so much either - just allows a space for the racists to take it over, really.
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There is probably some historical & psychological reason behind it, anyway its probably a good thing as I couldn't handle a day of Morris Dancing & folk music just a few weeks after a full day of Irish music blasting out of everywhere.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Jun 4, 2020
  • #27,055
Deleted member 5849 said:
Admittedly I don't get why we ignore St George's Day so much either - just allows a space for the racists to take it over, really.
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Yeah it should be a bank holiday really.
 
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