That sounds very close to saying let’s give up on managing this and allow it to just run itself out with the loss of a generation before their timeSo we sit in lockdown for another few months and the country becomes economically ruined and bankrupt and millions are unemployed.....we need to start getting things going like every other country, if the vaccine don’t work we’ve got to live with this forever! We need that track and trace to be properly working now I agree it should have been in place weeks and weeks ago
This is what I don't get. I can be sympathetic to us being slow to begin with (who wants this!) but current behaviour is contradictory to past.We were slow in reacting to what was going on in Italy when this arrived in Europe and here we are eager to come out of lockdown at a time when we are still regularly seeing over 300 confirmed deaths daily. That rate of death in March and there would have been absolutely no discussion on ending lockdown..
So if we do have a hard lockdown for many more months do you not think the top bit will happen? We need to try and find a safe balance and that’s why they released the new Workplace safety guidelines, if we follow them there is no reason why another spike will happenThat sounds very close to saying let’s give up on managing this and allow it to just run itself out with the loss of a generation before their time
Yep as if it’s a given rather than a consequence of mistakes that we don’t have to makeWhat depresses me is that there seems to be an acceptance that there will be a "spike" soon after mid June. Surely thst's more a result of coming out of lockdown too soon rather than anything else.
No reason there will be a spike if people follow the guidelines and rules mate? It’s not like everything is opening straight away, things are being opened slowly and safelyWhat depresses me is that there seems to be an acceptance that there will be a "spike" soon after mid June. Surely thst's more a result of coming out of lockdown too soon rather than anything else.
And as you say, it's more destructive if we get it wrong. I don't want to come out, only to have to go back in again!What depresses me is that there seems to be an acceptance that there will be a "spike" soon after mid June. Surely thst's more a result of coming out of lockdown too soon rather than anything else.
So all manner of scientists and even members of SAGE are coming out and saying it's too early to lift lockdown...
....yet the government ease lockdown despite saying they would follow the science. It's almost as if there's been something else in the news that they are desperate to take attention away from.
It's clearer than ever now that they value their party and the economy over human lives.
So we sit in lockdown for another few months and the country becomes economically ruined and bankrupt and millions are unemployed.....we need to start getting things going like every other country, if the vaccine don’t work we’ve got to live with this forever! We need that track and trace to be properly working now I agree it should have been in place weeks and weeks ago
Yes schools shouldn’t be opened till September now I don’t think it’s worth the risk.....also we should have had track and trace months ago up and readyBut we do not have a plan. All we have is a series of knee jerk reactions from the government as they feel pressure from ‘interested parties’
The last 2 weeks have been a disorganised shambles - even you are acknowledging it with the schools, the track and trace and then Cummings.
The fact is he shouldn’t have to say it - he needs to because too many people are fucking morons.
So we sit in lockdown for another few months and the country becomes economically ruined and bankrupt and millions are unemployed.....we need to start getting things going like every other country, if the vaccine don’t work we’ve got to live with this forever! We need that track and trace to be properly working now I agree it should have been in place weeks and weeks ago
We have a self serving modelThe fact is he shouldn’t have to say it - he needs to because too many people are fucking morons.
This is when leadership has to model this and take the lead.
Yes schools shouldn’t be opened till September now I don’t think it’s worth the risk.....also we should have had track and trace months ago up and ready
You might want to do some research into Sikora before you quote him.
Dom , you should have been watching Sky yesterday afternoon .No reason there will be a spike if people follow the guidelines and rules mate? It’s not like everything is opening straight away, things are being opened slowly and safely
That reads very much like the census training FWIW. Capita?Why I quit working on Boris Johnson's ‘world-beating' test-and-tracing system | Anonymous
This is accurate as have family signed up to work on this
I'm definitely more confident in Johnsons promised world beating track and trace system having read that.Why I quit working on Boris Johnson's ‘world-beating' test-and-tracing system | Anonymous
This is accurate as have family signed up to work on this
Think it's Serco.That reads very much like the census training FWIW. Capita?
Why are you posting that crank who is a cancer doctor not a virologist and has been discredited as a crank
The link to the unable to log in screen was a link to a sitel page.Think it's Serco.
Yes, it is published fact that we had cases in early Feb. That plane load of people were quarantined on 30 Jan
So obvious from this that it will have been similar in the UK! I rekon even before then it was spreading
We do not and never have had a hard lockdown. What a bunch of entitled cunts we are in this countrySo if we do have a hard lockdown for many more months do you not think the top bit will happen? We need to try and find a safe balance and that’s why they released the new Workplace safety guidelines, if we follow them there is no reason why another spike will happen
ONS is an estimate based on the available data, as we don't have enough testing to have a 'true' number. Maybe the worldometer number is the number of confirmed cases (as in those who have a negative test).Genuine question, saw this on the BBC:
They show one Sage meeting on 23 April estimated there would be only 1,000 cases per day by mid-May.
Instead, estimates by the Office for National Statistics suggest there are currently 8,000 cases per day in England alone. Those figures do not include cases in care homes or hospitals.
y the Office for National Statistics suggest there are currently 8,000 cases per day in England alone. Those figures do not include cases in care homes or hospitals.
Anyway in worldometer the daily new cases is averaging 1500-2000 ish. What am I missing, are they different measures?
Mmm. A Japanese car maker that uses its U.K. plant to sell cars in the EU duty free? How could brexit effect that? Still, at least the Sunderland workers can relax safe in the knowledge that a French company isn’t a major stakeholder in Nissan. Oh, wait...
Seen a few cretins on facebook saying "I don't think Greece can afford to pick and choose" - I really think this country has got so obsessed with perceived wealth, it's fucking rotten.
No reason there will be a spike if people follow the guidelines and rules mate? It’s not like everything is opening straight away, things are being opened slowly and safely
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