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skybluetony176

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,011
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Well he’s said it will be by the 1st so let’s wait and see
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If it’s not will you agree that Boris is a useless c**t with a cabinet made up of Diane Abbott rejects?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,012
skybluetony176 said:
That can’t be true. Honest Boris so no British PM would or should accept that deal at a DUP conference.
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He is McDonald's wet dream, assuming Sinn Feiners have them
 

hill83

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,013
Commons return will ‘euthanise’ MPs, Jacob Rees-Mogg is warned

Get the fucking schools in though yeah?*

*early evidence, kids no symptoms, don’t pass it on etc etc. Don’t believe them.

Never thought I’d indirectly agree with Rees Mogg
 
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Grendel

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,014
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Still 360 and far too high-not being negative just a realist
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Alice Cooper lives
 

David O'Day

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,015
chiefdave said:
Department of Health have now released their figures and its 60,744 people tested.

Also includes a note saying "There have been several revisions to today’s data across all four testing pillars" whatever that's supposed to mean.
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Wow that is some extensive figure padding

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David O'Day

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,016
skybluetony176 said:
He was Danish, Cnut is the correct spelling.
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Yeah that was his name. It's not an alternative spelling. If anything Grenners is using the alternative spelling.

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skybluetony176

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,017
Anyone see the footage of people staying alert on Southend beach today? #commonsense
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,018
David O'Day said:
Yeah that was his name. It's not an alternative spelling. If anything Grenners is using the alternative spelling.

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The alternatives are Cnud or Knud. Grendull has used the dumbed down for uneducated English speakers version.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,019
skybluetony176 said:
Anyone see the footage of people staying alert on Southend beach today? #commonsense
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Quite a lot of school age children being taken around and about, must have Teams open on their phones
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,020
chiefdave said:
Get the point he's making but pushing the PM, or whoever is standing in for him, to commit to specifics is of no use if nothing happens when they fail. We all know they very clearly said they'd be testing 100K people a day, every day, by the start of May. That still isn't happening and is hardly mentioned.
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Forensic innit? You build up your case over the trial (next 4 years) then lay it all out at once in a damning summation (general election). Realistically nothing can “happen” to a government with a huge majority until then. The only threat to Johnson is the rest of the Tory Party and that’ll rely on his polling.

Polling has been heading in the right direction (from our POV - Johnson’s already lost his rally round the flag boost and is below Starmer in approval), what more can you ask for? Ranting Corbyn style doesn’t win people over, it just fires up the base.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,021
shmmeee said:
Forensic innit? You build up your case over the trial (next 4 years) then lay it all out at once in a damning summation (general election). Realistically nothing can “happen” to a government with a huge majority until then. The only threat to Johnson is the rest of the Tory Party and that’ll rely on his polling.

Polling has been heading in the right direction (from our POV - Johnson’s already lost his rally round the flag boost and is below Starmer in approval), what more can you ask for? Ranting Corbyn style doesn’t win people over, it just fires up the base.
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This

It's a long game

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,022
shmmeee said:
Forensic innit? You build up your case over the trial (next 4 years) then lay it all out at once in a damning summation (general election). Realistically nothing can “happen” to a government with a huge majority until then. The only threat to Johnson is the rest of the Tory Party and that’ll rely on his polling.

Polling has been heading in the right direction (from our POV - Johnson’s already lost his rally round the flag boost and is below Starmer in approval), what more can you ask for? Ranting Corbyn style doesn’t win people over, it just fires up the base.
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It's like Maxwell-Fyfe v Goring in '45
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,023
shmmeee said:
Forensic innit? You build up your case over the trial (next 4 years) then lay it all out at once in a damning summation (general election). Realistically nothing can “happen” to a government with a huge majority until then. The only threat to Johnson is the rest of the Tory Party and that’ll rely on his polling.

Polling has been heading in the right direction (from our POV - Johnson’s already lost his rally round the flag boost and is below Starmer in approval), what more can you ask for? Ranting Corbyn style doesn’t win people over, it just fires up the base.
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Corbyn ranting? Corbyns style was anything but ranting, particularly at the start. He got criticised for it.
 
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wingy

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,024
chiefdave said:
Get the point he's making but pushing the PM, or whoever is standing in for him, to commit to specifics is of no use if nothing happens when they fail. We all know they very clearly said they'd be testing 100K people a day, every day, by the start of May. That still isn't happening and is hardly mentioned.
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I don't think we will be waiting years for this inquiry.
Interim is weeks away I'd think .
How damning that becomes could cause a huge shift .
 

shmmeee

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,025
clint van damme said:
Corbyn ranting? Corbyns style was anything but ranting, particularly at the start. He got criticised for it.
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Maybe ranting is a poor word, but the whole “DAE evil Tories?” stuff in general. It’s so outside the world view of Tory voters and floating voters that it doesn’t cut through like letting them hang themselves with their own targets.

I loved Corbyn at the start, during the leadership campaign. He was genuinely inspiring at times. But I’m a massive leftie and so was everyone else in the room. We all wanted our biases confirmed.
 

shmmeee

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,026
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It's like Maxwell-Fyfe v Goring in '45
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Had to Google that one.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,027
shmmeee said:
Had to Google that one.
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Note: Not a comparison of Johnson to Goring, but dismantling through competent rather than spectacular interrogation
 

stupot07

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,028
SkyBlueDom26 said:
177k tests done and still only 2.4k new cases! The end is in sight.... also deaths down substantially from last Wednesday
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177k tests done on just 60k people, spinning the numbers somewhat.

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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,029
Tbh if it’s safe for kids to go back to school and the right procedures are in place in the weeks to come, why shouldn’t they?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,030
stupot07 said:
177k tests done on just 60k people, spinning the numbers somewhat.

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Yes but it’s still 177k tests done? Big rise
 

stupot07

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,031
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Yes but it’s still 177k tests done? Big rise
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Not really. You can count doing a throat swab and a nasal swab at the same time as 2 tests. Johnson's commitment was for 100k individuals a day. Failed

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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,032
stupot07 said:
Not really. You can count doing a throat swab and a nasal swab at the same time as 2 tests. Johnson's commitment was for 100k individuals a day. Failed

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His commitment was for 100k tests a day, which in the last 2 weeks has mostly achieved.... it should have been a lot sooner though we were way to slow at testing
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,033
SkyBlueDom26 said:
His commitment was for 100k tests a day, which in the last 2 weeks has mostly achieved.... it should have been a lot sooner though we were way to slow at testing
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No it wasn’t. It was for 100k people tested a day and he said it repeatedly. It’s extremely well documented. You can choose your own opinion but you can’t choose your own facts.
 

stupot07

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,034
SkyBlueDom26 said:
His commitment was for 100k tests a day, which in the last 2 weeks has mostly achieved
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No his commitment was for 100k individuals per day




I'm guessing you also agree with Hancock that they put a protective ring around care homes....

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skybluetony176

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,035
stupot07 said:
Not really. You can count doing a throat swab and a nasal swab at the same time as 2 tests. Johnson's commitment was for 100k individuals a day. Failed

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Some of those two swabs are often tested more than once and the government has been double, triple counting those too.
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 20, 2020
  • #24,036
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Yes but it’s still 177k tests done?
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Its not tests done, that was established the last time the number suddenly jumped. That time it turned out they'd mailed home testing kits to thousands of Conservative party members and counted them with no idea if they'd even be returned.
The health secretary, Matt Hancock, has written to members of a Conservative Party email list inviting them to apply for a coronavirus test
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And in any case the promise was number of people not number of tests. They haven't hit that once this month yet have promised to hit 200K a day next month.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 21, 2020
  • #24,037
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Yes but it’s still 177k tests done? Big rise
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No it's not 177k tests done.

Lets keep this factual

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David O'Day

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  • May 21, 2020
  • #24,038
SkyBlueDom26 said:
His commitment was for 100k tests a day, which in the last 2 weeks has mostly achieved.... it should have been a lot sooner though we were way to slow at testing
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Why are you lying? You know this was not the commitment

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David O'Day

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  • May 21, 2020
  • #24,039
Cars 'from across country' cause beaches gridlock

We're gonna need a world beating tracing system soon

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  • May 21, 2020
  • #24,040
David O'Day said:
Cars 'from across country' cause beaches gridlock

We're gonna need a world beating tracing system soon

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Skegness eh...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 21, 2020
  • #24,041
David O'Day said:
Cars 'from across country' cause beaches gridlock

We're gonna need a world beating tracing system soon

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It’s funny they’re allowing that but they won’t let me go to a country that has basically no infection
 

Skybluefaz

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  • May 21, 2020
  • #24,042
Deleted member 5849 said:
Skegness eh...
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Nothing has changed
 

Skybluefaz

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  • May 21, 2020
  • #24,043
David O'Day said:
Cars 'from across country' cause beaches gridlock

We're gonna need a world beating tracing system soon

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Read a list of countries that don't have a system in place. It reads like UK, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan etc

 

clint van damme

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  • May 21, 2020
  • #24,044
Sadiq Khan getting rinsed by Piers Morgan

At least he's had the bollocks to go on TV and try and explain himself though he's not doing a very good job.
No government minister for interview again
Fucking spineless, leaderless government is a shambles
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 21, 2020
  • #24,045
clint van damme said:
Sadiq Khan getting rinsed by Piers Morgan

At least he's had the bollocks to go on TV and try and explain himself though he's not doing a very good job.
No government minister for interview again
Fucking spineless, leaderless government is a shambles
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We are in the middle of a pandemic, why would they want to get shut down by the twat piers Morgan halfway through answering a question
 
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