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Blind-Faith

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,961
Apparently just under 500 dead and 3000+ new infections. But yeah let send everyone back to work!
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,962
Sick Boy said:
Yeah, I used to but not so much in recent years. I work in digital marketing/SEO so happy to give advice with anything if you need it. If you managed to build it up that much already and have access to people of interest, then I think you could probably turn into something that does very well by the sounds of it - especially if you enjoy writing about it.
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I spoke to the guy who I was running it with and he's declared interest in starting it back up again, although looks like it will be me taking the lead probably.

I'm going to come up with a business plan and send it over to him so we can discuss.

He is really good at marketing and has his own other company, but I would be greatful of any advice, especially tapping into that Italian market.
 
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PVA

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,963
Sky Blue Pete said:
Will be forgotten in 24hrs which is so wrong
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The amount of shit this government gets away with is unreal.

Not just during this pandemic, but since Johnson came into power.

Just lie after lie after lie. It's incredible.

It gets brushed under the carpet, people like Dom don't know it even happened and the rest of us are just aghast at what they get away with.
 
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PVA

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,964
Though I will say it's a breath of fresh air to actually see someone calling him out on his bullshit, fair play to Starmer.

I wonder if Johnson will soon realise it's not a good idea to lie in front of an incredibly successful QC.

He's going to get a pasting every time he steps foot in the Commons now, at last.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,965
I watched the first half of PMQ's in the background and I have to be honest and say I was pretty impressed with Starmer.

While he isn't probably the most fun at parties, he speaks intelligently and coherently. It was nice to see the right questions being asked without it just being unnecessary Tory bashing for the sake of it.

I'll be watching him with interest. I know it is easier to be on the opposite bench but even so, hopefully it'll be positive for the whole country if he continues in that manner. The only thing that worries me is some more of the Labour politicians. If they could have a clear out a bit, it could be a step in the right direction.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,966
I look forward to dum and grendal pretending that the governments rather pathetic defence of accusing Keir Starmer of selectively quoting by quoting a line from the governments own advice.



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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,967
Blind-Faith said:
Apparently just under 500 dead and 3000+ new infections. But yeah let send everyone back to work!
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We are daft aren’t we as a nation
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,968
Liquid Gold said:
"Not voting for Labour until they get their act together - no not like that, I meant do what the Conservatives do"
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Fair play to Starmer. Imagine if the opposition had have been strong enough to call the PM out when Tony Blair took us to war illegally.
A strong opposition can only force a strong government. Boris is going to have to up his game to stay ahead of Starmer.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,969
In case anyone was wondering what leadership looks like
I dare say that because New Zealand acted fast and decisively their economic hit won’t be as bad as ours either.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,970
I see No10 has accused Starmer of misquoting the guidance he quoted in parliament by referring to a different section (ie the wrong section) of the guidance as proof.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,971
skybluetony176 said:
I see No10 has accused Starmer of misquoting the guidance he quoted in parliament by referring to a different section (ie the wrong section) of the guidance as proof.
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It's a strange argument to make. It admits he lied at PMQs

Coronavirus 'community transmission highly likely'

Also here is the Chief Medical Officer stating community transmission was highly likely happening in the uk st week before so why sid they not change the advice to reflect that until the 13th? It shows even more clearly how slow they were with regards to care homes

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skybluetony176

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,972
David O'Day said:
It's a strange argument to make. It admits he lied at PMQs

Coronavirus 'community transmission highly likely'

Also here is the Chief Medical Officer stating community transmission was highly likely happening in the uk st week before so why sid they not change the advice to reflect that until the 13th? It shows even more clearly how slow they were with regards to care homes

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It also admits that the government’s own guidelines are contradictory to themselves.
 

stupot07

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,973
skybluetony176 said:
In case anyone was wondering what leadership looks like
I dare say that because New Zealand acted fast and decisively their economic hit won’t be as bad as ours either.
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I know that will be poo poo'd as a leftie momentum video, but the contrast couldnt be starker. She's doing an amazing job, treating people with respect and like adults and doing what needs to be done, not like brain dead part time prime minister.

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David O'Day

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,974
skybluetony176 said:
It also admits that the government’s own guidelines are contradictory to themselves.
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It rattled them and they have panicked and came out with this laughable defense. This will be q1 next week at pmqs

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Ian1779

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,975
skybluetony176 said:
Fair play to Starmer. Imagine if the opposition had have been strong enough to call the PM out when Tony Blair took us to war illegally.
A strong opposition can only force a strong government. Boris is going to have to up his game to stay ahead of Starmer.
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The oppositions real strength will play out in the quality of their offer to the British people. I’m pleased that Starmer has the forum to shred the government on its disastrous policy choices and his forensic style certainly emphasises that.

I’m more interested to see where he goes post Cov-ID 19. Will he continue to offer an anti-austerity agenda, because if not he will not fare well. I was disappointed with Labour rent policy (well only the deferral part) and would hope he will go back and rectify that later down the line.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,976
I have just started watching pmqs on YouTube and the difference between the two leaders is immediate Johnson arrives and his papers are all out of order and then he spends time trying to sort them, Starmer is prepared and organised. Without his pals behind him hollering and behaving like schools kids the Pm looks like he is lost
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,977
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I have just started watching pmqs on YouTube and the difference between the two leaders is immediate Johnson arrives and his papers are all out of order and then he spends time trying to sort them, Starmer is prepared and organised. Without his pals behind him hollering and behaving like schools kids the Pm looks like he is lost
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It’s like watching Big Bang Theory minus laugh track
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,978
Sky Blue Pete said:
We are daft aren’t we as a nation
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A majority is and they tend to be smug about being greater in number
 

Skybluefaz

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,979
Ian1779 said:
The oppositions real strength will play out in the quality of their offer to the British people. I’m pleased that Starmer has the forum to shred the government on its disastrous policy choices and his forensic style certainly emphasises that.

I’m more interested to see where he goes post Cov-ID 19. Will he continue to offer an anti-austerity agenda, because if not he will not fare well. I was disappointed with Labour rent policy (well only the deferral part) and would hope he will go back and rectify that later down the line.
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Forensic! Drink!
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,980
Sounds like the economy was tanking even before the Coronavirus crisis then.
 

Brylowes

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,981
Ian1779 said:
The oppositions real strength will play out in the quality of their offer to the British people. I’m pleased that Starmer has the forum to shred the government on its disastrous policy choices and his forensic style certainly emphasises that.

I’m more interested to see where he goes post Cov-ID 19. .
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:emoji_thinking: It could be straight into an ‘Old Folks Home’ if Boris and co don’t get a grip.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,982
skybluetony176 said:
Sounds like the economy was tanking even before the Coronavirus crisis then.
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We were heading into recession before this, it’s just got here a bit quicker and will be worse.
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,983
See the daily briefing is now sponsored by Taylor Wimpey.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,984
chiefdave said:
We were heading into recession before this, it’s just got here a bit quicker and will be worse.
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Yep the economy was flat in jan and started sliding in Feb and the restrictions were late march so at least part of the 5.8 contraction on that month will be non pandemic shutdown

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,985
There’s no way De Pfeffel is going to last, he’s even being openly criticised by his own MPs.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,986
Sick Boy said:
There’s no way De Pfeffel is going to last, he’s even being openly criticised by his own MPs.
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But Grendal.said he walks on water

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Grendel

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,987
Sick Boy said:
There’s no way De Pfeffel is going to last, he’s even being openly criticised by his own MPs.
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Charity bet time? What time period?
 
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PVA

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,988
He'll be gone once all this is 'over' whenever that might be.

Because there will be a constant stream of inquiries into the government's handling of this and we all know that Johnson cannot, and will not, stand up to scrutiny. He'll be out of there quicker than you can say 'herd immunity'.
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,989

60k
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,990
David O'Day said:

60k
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The more I read about sending people back to nursing homes without even testing them for Covid 19 when they were showing clear symptoms the less surprised I am by figures like these. This government has blood on its hands. There can be little doubt about that. What I really don’t understand is why did we spend so much money building, kitting out and supplying nightingale hospitals and then send sick people into an environment that is going to spread it without conscience to some of the most vulnerable people to this virus. Please will one of Boris fan boys explain this to me. Explain to me how the government wasn’t deliberately putting a deadly killer virus into a vulnerable community.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,991
skybluetony176 said:
The more I read about sending people back to nursing homes without even testing them for Covid 19 when they were showing clear symptoms the less surprised I am by figures like these. This government has blood on its hands. There can be little doubt about that. What I really don’t understand is why did we spend so much money building, kitting out and supplying nightingale hospitals and then send sick people into an environment that is going to spread it without conscience to some of the most vulnerable people to this virus. Please will one of Boris fan boys explain this to me. Explain to me how the government wasn’t deliberately putting a deadly killer virus into a vulnerable community.
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They were built to make the public a bit more confident in capacity, they had few staff and were fairly useless for what they were due to do. They also cost a fortune to build.

I am sure he said today the death rate is going down in homes that I quite likely as they are running out of people in them.
 
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PVA

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,992
60k. Bloody hell.

Boris lad indeed.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,993
Terry Gibson's perm said:
They were built to make the public a bit more confident in capacity, they had few staff and were fairly useless for what they were due to do. They also cost a fortune to build.

I am sure he said today the death rate is going down in homes that I quite likely as they are running out of people in them.
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It’s truly shocking. Has a British PM ever killed so many people before through neglect?
 
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Rusty Trombone

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,994
skybluetony176 said:
The more I read about sending people back to nursing homes without even testing them for Covid 19 when they were showing clear symptoms the less surprised I am by figures like these. This government has blood on its hands. There can be little doubt about that. What I really don’t understand is why did we spend so much money building, kitting out and supplying nightingale hospitals and then send sick people into an environment that is going to spread it without conscience to some of the most vulnerable people to this virus. Please will one of Boris fan boys explain this to me. Explain to me how the government wasn’t deliberately putting a deadly killer virus into a vulnerable community.
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My Mrs works as a nurse at UHCW, from things she tells me you shouldn't underestimate the poor decisions that get made by senior management. Of course you could argue that ultimately this all leads back to the Government, but these managers do need to take some responsibility. Again from what she tells me there was a real reluctance to test people, now whether this was down to a lack of testing availability or wanting to keep the numbers down, and people out of the Covid wards, I don't know. Maybe a mixture of everything.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,995
 
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