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skybluetony176

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,891
djr8369 said:
He makes some good points. Unfortunately Cummings is running a PR exercise and has no interest in parliamentary process or scrutiny.


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It is incredible that the person behind the leave campaign on the premise of taking back sovereignty seems to have little interest in sovereignty.
 

clint van damme

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,892
skybluetony176 said:
It is incredible that the person behind the leave campaign on the premise of taking back sovereignty seems to have little interest in sovereignty.
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None of them ever did. It was all bullshit.
 
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djr8369

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,893
skybluetony176 said:
It is incredible that the person behind the leave campaign on the premise of taking back sovereignty seems to have little interest in sovereignty.
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Almost makes you think it was all bullshit


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skybluetony176

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,894
djr8369 said:
Almost makes you think it was all bullshit


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At least the NHS it getting an extra £360M a year.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,895
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I was hoping for a night in Smack
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It’s all about spoons then Altoria :woot:
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,896
SkyBlueDom26 said:
It’s all about spoons then Altoria :woot:
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Rubbish lad
 
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djr8369

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,897
SkyBlueDom26 said:
It’s all about spoons then Altoria :woot:
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Only if you wanted a fight.


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PVA

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,898
wingy said:
The address to the nation at 7-00pm on a Sunday evening was a flagrant grandstanding excercise attempting to avert scrutiny and appear presidential.
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He wanted it to be his Churchill moment, especially with it being so close to VE day.

The big week long build up.

Everyone waiting to hear Boris the saviour put an end to lockdown so we could see our friends and family again.

But then the public reaction to the leaks meant he absolutely couldn't do that, it's not what the people wanted. But with this big build up for the speech he had to do something, or it'd look daft.

Which is why we got that absolute farce of a speech.
 
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wingy

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,899
There are still estimates suggesting infection running at 20k per day .
This is insane.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,900
hill83 said:
Fucking BAME pisses me right off. Why am I getting lumped in with everyone who isn’t white for fuck sake. It’s so vague.
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It must be extremely annoying, and I imagine there are many in the LGBTQ who feel the same.

But it does also work the other way. When I hear reference to 'white people' there are plenty of white people I'd be horrified to be lumped in with. Same with women referring to men as if we're all the same. It's lazy. Just an assumption if you're white/male you get all the breaks. Just because those with privilege are almost solely white and male doesn't mean being white and male equates to privilege.
 
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PVA

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,901
What a joke.

I feel sorry for these poor people being forced to get on public transport to go to work.

But this second wave is going to be huge.

This shouldn't be allowed. Instead it's being encouraged. The government just don't give a fuck.

 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,902
wingy said:
There are still estimates suggesting infection running at 20k per day .
This is insane.
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I saw one of those sympathy for Boris posts on facebook earlier, laughable.
 
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djr8369

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,903
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It must be extremely annoying, and I imagine there are many in the LGBTQ who feel the same.

But it does also work the other way. When I hear reference to 'white people' there are plenty of white people I'd be horrified to be lumped in with. Same with women referring to men as if we're all the same. It's lazy. Just an assumption if you're white/male you get all the breaks. Just because those with privilege are almost solely white and male doesn't mean being white and male equates to privilege.
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It’s a complex topic but if you’re white and male you’ve objectively got an advantage in several respects. That’s not to say there aren’t some areas we’re worse off in like underperforming in schools. However, many of the advantages between different groups are dwarfed by the advantages offered by class. So, if like many of us, you’re a white working class male, it certainly doesn’t feel like we’ve got any advantages and what we’ve got are hard to perceive because we haven’t experienced the other side of the coin.


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djr8369

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,904
fernandopartridge said:
I saw one of those sympathy for Boris posts on facebook earlier, laughable.
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Was watching the news reports of the protests in America last night and I happen to have been listening to a podcast about how much the Russians used social media to interfere with the American election and our referendum earlier in the day. Got me thinking, I wonder how much of the stuff on social media now is them stirring it up?


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fernandopartridge

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,905
PVA said:
What a joke.

I feel sorry for these poor people being forced to get on public transport to go to work.

But this second wave is going to be huge.

This shouldn't be allowed. Instead it's being encouraged. The government just don't give a fuck.

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23 bus drivers dead already, those buses are deadly.

I've said for many years what a dreadful state London is in, it is prohibitively expensive for most people to live near central London where the jobs are, thus meaning that public transport is a must. They've had to contend with terror attacks and now a deadly virus. All while 40 years of UK governments cream themselves over the financial sector and London's 'economic powerhouse' status.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,906
David O'Day said:
Generally people are. If you target a tax and say for example "we are going to increase ni by x amount but all extra money raised will be spent on the nhs and adult social care" the public is supportive of this.
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They would be but the trouble in practice is it all gets lumped in the pot. NI was supposed to be a hypothecated tax to pay for social security and hen later the NHS. Vehicle tax is supposed to only be used for road improvements. Never works out that way.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,907
fernandopartridge said:
23 bus drivers dead already, those buses are deadly.

I've said for many years what a dreadful state London is in, it is prohibitively expensive for most people to live near central London where the jobs are, thus meaning that public transport is a must. They've had to contend with terror attacks and now a deadly virus. All while 40 years of UK governments cream themselves over the financial sector and London's 'economic powerhouse' status.
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I still love London but one of the best decisions I ever made was to leave. Was working full time in central London and that barely covered my rent and travel card. 2 hours commuting every day to come home to pasta again and bed just to get up and work again. No cash to do anything at the weekend. It was soul destroying.
 
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PVA

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,908
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,909
Liquid Gold said:
I still love London but one of the best decisions I ever made was to leave. Was working full time in central London and that barely covered my rent and travel card. 2 hours commuting every day to come home to pasta again and bed just to get up and work again. No cash to do anything at the weekend. It was soul destroying.
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I agree entirely. Nice place to visit. Sure as hell wouldn't want to live there.
 
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PVA

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,910
PMQs - Boris floundering and unable to answer the question already.

Starmer states that there was 18,000 excess deaths in care homes in April but the government says 8,000 were as a result of Corona. He asks Johnson where the other 10,000 came from, and Johnson has no answer.
 
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wingy

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,911
Who would have briefed the Telegraph regards there furlough article?
Downing St comms or disgruntled from a divided cabinet?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,912
covmark said:
Haven't had a cough, but do feel really lethargic and tight chested.
Cheers for the advice.
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If you have the test and it comes back negative I suggest seeing your doctor about it potentially being stress related.
 

David O'Day

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,913
wingy said:
Who would have briefed the Telegraph regards there furlough article?
Downing St comms or disgruntled from a divided cabinet?
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Telegraph? That'll be number 10 with their Johnson links

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stupot07

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,914
wingy said:
Who would have briefed the Telegraph regards there furlough article?
Downing St comms or disgruntled from a divided cabinet?
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Its blatantly the no. 10 policy now, leak stuff early to see what the general response is then tailor your actually comms around that.

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PVA

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,915
stupot07 said:
Its blatantly the no. 10 policy now, leak stuff early to see what the general response is then tailor your actually comms around that.

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Such brilliant leadership.
 

Ian1779

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,916
This new PMQ’s format is much better. Keep it after the virus is gone I say. Time to put and end to the braying morons and we might start to get some actual answers.
 
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wingy

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,917
In it together .
Common sense.
 
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PVA

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,918
Ian1779 said:
This new PMQ’s format is much better. Keep it after the virus is gone I say. Time to put and end to the braying morons and we might start to get some actual answers.
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Agreed on the braying.

Though we still haven't heard an actual answer from Johnson.
 
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shmmeee

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,919
PVA said:
Agreed on the braying.

Though we still haven't heard an actual answer from Johnson.
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It’s Prime Ministers Questions, not Prime Ministers Answers, duh!
 
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PVA

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,920
Oh dear.

More lies.

 
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David O'Day

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,921
Starmer has gutted him yet again

The questions on extra care home deaths was devastating for him.

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Liquid Gold

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,922
Ian1779 said:
This new PMQ’s format is much better. Keep it after the virus is gone I say. Time to put and end to the braying morons and we might start to get some actual answers.
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Turf Parliament out to MK or somewhere. Give it a semicircular chamber and turn the palace into a museum of democracy and the British state.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,923
I made an effort to watch some...

It is ultimately irrelevant as there are years to go before an election, but Boris is being methodically dismantled, does he just not care or something as he knows its ages before the next election?
 
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David O'Day

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,924
Ring Of Steel said:
I made an effort to watch some...

It is ultimately irrelevant as there are years to go before an election, but Boris is being methodically dismantled, does he just not care or something as he knows its ages before the next election?
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I think he just isn't cutout for this

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SkyBlueCharlie9

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  • May 13, 2020
  • #22,925
Just listening to Prime Ministers Questions at this crucial time. The local Tory MP for Clywd asked whether the Prime Minister could congratulate the Llangollen Steam Railway for their efforts at this difficult time. Unbelievable that Boris's MPs trying to waste PQT to avoid scrutiny of the cabinet.
 
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