Grendel
Well-Known Member
Indeed like labour in the 70’s
Just saw a stat if you add furloughed and public sector workers together you’ve now got 49% of all employees being paid by the state!
Good to see they've u-turned on the drop to 60% The pressure to end furlough should be made on employers who can afford to do so and are using the scheme as a means of saving themselves money rather than the workers who have been told to stay at home who will be worried if they will even have a job to go back to.
That doesn't seem right. Would leave the scheme massively open to abuse. Surely if someone is working their employer pays them not the government?
Interesting watching posters who shouted about how awful socialism was during the election now praising the government for the furlough scheme.
can you show me a Yougov poll that evidences this
Charles according to you Sir Keith Starter is the labour leader
That can’t be right, opinion on this thread in no way reflects the real world.
lol- I get that he winds you up, but you look a bit overly desperate to get his attention now tbh
YouGov are really bad pollsters as well.Ah your classic response when someone publishes a link that proves your nonsense wrong.
'doesn't count if it's in that publication! Here's the excellent Dan Hodges instead'
I think I'll stick to the UK for now though even in times of crisis and uncertainty their prices are still an absolute piss take.
What book you writing? Fiction, non fiction?
YouGov are really bad pollsters as well.
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This me? If so it is really sad but no he is not coming off ignore.lol- I get that he winds you up, but you look a bit overly desperate to get his attention now tbh
can you show me a Yougov poll that evidences this
Ohhh burnYouGov don’t do daily opinion polls, but on their live ratings tracker Johnson currently sits at -13 with 99 heard of him, Starmer at -4 with 44 heard of. So he’s behind there too.
It's fiction but I'm struggling a bit with it. Loads of great ideas but lack of plan. I'll probably start a separate thread on it.
Indeed like labour in the 70’s
Facts bring him out in a rashNope. At its height the public sector employed just over 7m people in 1979, half a million fewer than are currently claiming furlough.
can you show me a Yougov poll that evidences this
Seeing as you asked so nicely
Yougov shows Johnson's net approval rating falling dramatically, and now one point lower than Starmer.
Do you think that Boris Johnson is doing well or badly as Prime Minister?
Well: 57% (-9)
Badly: 35% (+9)
Net +22 (-18)
Do you think Keir Starmer is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?
Well: 40%
Badly: 17%
Net: +23
Boris Johnson approval rating
Keir Starmer approval rating
Look forward to this being ignored or deflected
HahaSeeing as you asked so nicely
Yougov shows Johnson's net approval rating falling dramatically, and now one point lower than Starmer.
Do you think that Boris Johnson is doing well or badly as Prime Minister?
Well: 57% (-9)
Badly: 35% (+9)
Net +22 (-18)
Do you think Keir Starmer is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?
Well: 40%
Badly: 17%
Net: +23
Boris Johnson approval rating
Keir Starmer approval rating
Look forward to this being ignored or deflected
Anyway.
It looks like the government want to reduce the amount they pay anyway as they are asking the employer to start to pay part of this furlough wage. So if it does go.to.60 percent government and 20 percent employer if they employer can't pay their part what happens?
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Not sure it's ambiguousAre they asking or are they telling?
Are they asking or are they telling?
Not sure it's ambiguous
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Nope. At its height the public sector employed just over 7m people in 1979, half a million fewer than are currently claiming furlough alone.
If the employer says no does the employee become redundant or does the government just continue to pay them at 80 percent?What a surprise
Seeing as you asked so nicely
Yougov shows Johnson's net approval rating falling dramatically, and now one point lower than Starmer.
Do you think that Boris Johnson is doing well or badly as Prime Minister?
Well: 57% (-9)
Badly: 35% (+9)
Net +22 (-18)
Do you think Keir Starmer is doing well or badly as leader of the Labour party?
Well: 40%
Badly: 17%
Net: +23
Boris Johnson approval rating
Keir Starmer approval rating
Look forward to this being ignored or deflected
Not particularly.It doesn’t and of course you know full well disappointed is your mantra politically
If the employer says no does the employee become redundant or does the government just continue to pay them at 80 percent?
If it's the latter a lot of employers will just be bastards and refuse
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That’s the highest popularity of a sitting prime minister in history and at a time of national crises. Your crushing disappointment is round the corner
Not everyone who is on furlough is currently getting 80% that's what they're getting if their employer refuses to pay the remaining 20%If the employer says no does the employee become redundant or does the government just continue to pay them at 80 percent?
If it's the latter a lot of employers will just be bastards and refuse
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