Sky Blue Pete
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Hope someone asks what they have learned from other countries
FudgedJudged or falsified
I read the article. They are counting them as soon as they send them out and not when the tests are taken. But how would they know what day they are taken?
I don't know about 20 or 30% but I think it's been here well before the first recorded case as well.
It's scandalous, judging from Jon Ashworth on twitter he will be bringing this upThey're are also counting tests that haven't been sent out. How can that be right?
I would suggest counting those returned to the lab but either way, as CD said, it's a fudge.
Yep which is why a target is silly and increasing to the highest level and not having to lie about it is brilliant. This is sillyTo be fair, I didn’t expect them to get anywhere near so whether the testing capacity is now 80k, 90k or 150k per day, all I know is it’s far better than it was a month ago.
I’ve always felt its a widely available accurate antibody test that we/everyone needs (assuming level of immunity post contagion), or high testing capacity to be working in conjunction with the tracing/tracking app. Hopefully both are on their way
Ps think I just heard 122k were ‘carried out’ yesterday...wonder if a load of randoms will receive one in the post tomorrow...whether they wanted it or not ! Either way, to get the capacity to a decent level in a month is a positive
Im the opposite. No way has it been here longer without us knowing, the contact tracing at the start was excellent and credited with buying us extra time so I doubt they missed it by months.
As for how many have had it, IIRC NYC have done large scale antibody testing and came back with 20-30% so I think that’s a reasonable estimate somewhere like London and maybe central Brum, probably a bit less in the less densely populated areas.
All guesswork though.
Yep which is why a target is silly and increasing to the highest level and not having to lie about it is brilliant. This is silly
To be fair, I didn’t expect them to get anywhere near so whether the testing capacity is now 80k, 90k or 150k per day, all I know is it’s far better than it was a month ago.
I’ve always felt its a widely available accurate antibody test that we/everyone needs (assuming level of immunity post contagion), or high testing capacity to be working in conjunction with the tracing/tracking app. Hopefully both are on their way
Ps think I just heard 122k were ‘carried out’ yesterday...wonder if a load of randoms will receive one in the post tomorrow...whether they wanted it or not ! Either way, to get the capacity to a decent level in a month is a positive
It won't be randoms
Apparently they sent a letter to every over 65 in the Tory party asking them to apply for the test. Once they've received the application they're counting that as a test.
Over 65s in the Tories? I belive it's around the 90 thousand mark!
Ask grenners he will have received oneI was kidding about the randoms. As I say the important thing is having the capacity there (to be utilised properly) in future
ps what did your letter say mate ?! ; )
First known case according to China, was in November.Im the opposite. No way has it been here longer without us knowing, the contact tracing at the start was excellent and credited with buying us extra time so I doubt they missed it by months.
As for how many have had it, IIRC NYC have done large scale antibody testing and came back with 20-30% so I think that’s a reasonable estimate somewhere like London and maybe central Brum, probably a bit less in the less densely populated areas.
All guesswork though.
First known case according to China, was in November.
Now what's the chances it was around a little earlier in Wuhan, and the Chinese are being a bit economical with the truth. It's quite likely imo.
October 2019 the world military games was held in Wuhan. Representatives from 140 countries were there. Over 9000 participants, that's not including support staff etc.
I'd say it could be a distinct possibility someone may have picked up the virus unknowingly, been asymptomatic, at brought it home far earlier than we all originally thought.
May of course be pie in the sky, but it's possible.
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Different strains maybe? Maybe it mutated? I don't know, as I say, could be pie in the sky. Doubt we'll ever know the whole truth.Doesn’t explain why we didn’t see an outbreak until March though. The virus didn’t get more contagious recently so if it was around then it should’ve been ripping through the country killing thousands and it wasn’t.
Anyone willing to speculate how many have actually died from this over the six weeks and what that means on what % of the population have had it ?
I better get down thereSelco is opening next week. The trades are all getting back to it
It's semantics really.Lying fuckers.
Tbf it's not the lying because that's like saying water is wet. It's the smugness that Hancock delivers it with.
Two strain's S and L?Doesn’t explain why we didn’t see an outbreak until March though. The virus didn’t get more contagious recently so if it was around then it should’ve been ripping through the country killing thousands and it wasn’t.
I wonder if the email to con party members over the age of 65 swung it .Different strains maybe? Maybe it mutated? I don't know, as I say, could be pie in the sky. Doubt we'll ever know the whole truth.
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Was it funded before 10 years ago?
It's semantics really.
But he did shoot his mouth off
It is definitely not an easy gig but he offers up many excuses along with jam tomorrow type statements plus a touch of mendacity.
Not even particularly close to the target. 73,191 people tested.
They didn't manage what they officially said they were going to do
I have only seen them counting the tests when sent out as I stated earlier.They're are also counting tests that haven't been sent out. How can that be right?
I would suggest counting those returned to the lab but either way, as CD said, it's a fudge.
So what stocks did we have?More than it was afterwards buddy, I don't think anyone could argue otherwise
They just needed to hit the target by the end of the month. Then they will come out with their excuses like they could have tested 100,000 but they were not needed.Not even particularly close to the target. 73,191 people tested.
Be interesting to see how the numbers hold up, are they going to mail out tens of thousands every day to artificially keep the number high or are they hoping people won't notice if it drops back down again?
They just needed to hit the target by the end of the month. Then they will come out with their excuses like they could have tested 100,000 but they were not needed.
They've been testing in Iceland and seem to think there's different strains and somehow they've traced them back to which countries they came into Iceland from.Different strains maybe? Maybe it mutated? I don't know, as I say, could be pie in the sky. Doubt we'll ever know the whole truth.
Yes this is a theory that each little mutation is like a geotag.They've been testing in Iceland and seem to think there's different strains and somehow they've traced them back to which countries they came into Iceland from.
Iceland lab testing suggests 50% of coronavirus cases are asymptomatic - CNN
Although I don't think that accounts for a strain that could have swept through the country without anyone noticing.
Hardly pretend is it, we have hit it with 122k testsIt's going to be fun watching the government pretend they have hit the 100k test figure
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