SkyBlue_Bear83
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Workplaces that are still open
4.5,k new cases
Where is this transmission occurring
Cool a wikipedia link and some press stories that like to paint a darker picture.Solid argument.
Meanwhile, in reality:
From: Lockdown - Wikipedia
Gatherings of more than two banned as UK enters coronavirus lockdown | Metro News
Britain enters coronavirus lockdown | The Spectator
Boris Johnson orders UK lockdown to be enforced by police
When will lockdown end? The UK's coronavirus lockdown, explained | WIRED UK
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=235985214459846
UK coronavirus lockdown: what are the rules, and when will it be lifted?
Cool a wikipedia link and some press stories that like to paint a darker picture.
What reality are you in chap? Is it fluffy there.
That's 2 nil to me and you're back in the ignored list that you were first put o for your dribblings about the trust.
A fucking wiki link omfg
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This is a virus. It is completely indiscriminate as to who it will infect. It appears quite random (what we know so far) as to who it kills.Cool a wikipedia link and some press stories that like to paint a darker picture.
What reality are you in chap? Is it fluffy there.
That's 2 nil to me and you're back in the ignored list that you were first put o for your dribblings about the trust.
A fucking wiki link omfg
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Depends how it is handled.Workplaces that are still open
Sounds pretty thorough and on those reports good to see an employer taking responsibility for staff wellbeing.Depends how it is handled.
About 500 people are employed where I work. Those who can work from home do. Thise with underlying health issues of any kind are off on full pay. We have people in sterilizing what can be touched 24 hours a day. Our temperature is checked each day on arrival to work before we get on site. Any slight symptoms and off for 14 days.
Don't know what is happening elsewhere though.
This is a virus. It is completely indiscriminate as to who it will infect. It appears quite random (what we know so far) as to who it kills.
So to stop people dying from it we need: -
1. Something to fight (cure) it in those infected
2. Something to stop spreading (prevent) it:
a. A vaccine
b. More of what we are doing
Smart arse comments ain't going to help you a jot if it takes a hold on you.
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There is legislation where flouting it leads to a fine:Cool a wikipedia link and some press stories that like to paint a darker picture.
What reality are you in chap? Is it fluffy there.
That's 2 nil to me and you're back in the ignored list that you were first put o for your dribblings about the trust.
A fucking wiki link omfg
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You still aren't locked downThere is legislation where flouting it leads to a fine:
The Health Protection (Coronavirus) Regulations 2020
It is a lockdown albeit on the softer end of the scale.
OK, on balance probably not in the fullest sense, but in comparison to established freedoms I am. I can't go and meet my mates for a pint. I can't travel to see my family in Coventry.You still aren't locked down
Worked for them since the mid 90's. Even moved my wife and younger kids 200 miles away from the older kids to change plants. But giod employers are rare.Sounds pretty thorough and on those reports good to see an employer taking responsibility for staff wellbeing.
Solid argument.
Meanwhile, in reality:
From: Lockdown - Wikipedia
Gatherings of more than two banned as UK enters coronavirus lockdown | Metro News
Britain enters coronavirus lockdown | The Spectator
Boris Johnson orders UK lockdown to be enforced by police
When will lockdown end? The UK's coronavirus lockdown, explained | WIRED UK
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=235985214459846
UK coronavirus lockdown: what are the rules, and when will it be lifted?
I don't class this as a full lockdown, more a semi-lockdown.This is a lockdown. There’s laws saying you can’t leave your house except for a few given reasons. That’s lockdown.
Social distancing is stuff like 2m apart when out, wearing masks, no contact deliveries, the stuff you can do without lockdown when life is carrying on as well as during lockdown.
And no one has become poorly?Depends how it is handled.
About 500 people are employed where I work. Those who can work from home do. Thise with underlying health issues of any kind are off on full pay. We have people in sterilizing what can be touched 24 hours a day. Our temperature is checked each day on arrival to work before we get on site. Any slight symptoms and off for 14 days.
Don't know what is happening elsewhere though.
I don't class this as a full lockdown, more a semi-lockdown.
A full lockdown for me is what happened in Spain and Italy.
Cool a wikipedia link and some press stories that like to paint a darker picture.
What reality are you in chap? Is it fluffy there.
That's 2 nil to me and you're back in the ignored list that you were first put o for your dribblings about the trust.
A fucking wiki link omfg
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Really strange. He's arguing over the semantics of lockdown because if he doesn't his condescending reply to my original post has no merit. The ridiculous thing is I didn't even use the term "lockdown" I asked what social distancing measures might remain in place while opening the economy back up.
He's manufactured an argument from nothing, painted himself into a corner, and now can't retreat from it. Basically he's done a Grendel.
You only have to read the words America’s thought leaders and you know it’s bullshit.China and the origins of the Covid-19 virus:
We haven't enforced it I agree.The rules are virtually the same: no non essential travel, non essential shops closed, gatherings banned, schools closed. The only real difference is that we haven’t tried to enforce it. But it’s a lockdown. Some are tighter than others but that doesn’t stop it being a lockdown. There are laws restricting when you’re allowed to leave your house that didn’t exist before. That’s lockdown. That’s what it is.
I don’t think chihuahuas count as full dogs, but they are.
He did the same with the graph. The guy has some serious issues around accepting when he’s wrong and is permanently angry. He’s basically a left wing Grendel with slightly more brains.
You only have to read the words America’s thought leaders and you know it’s bullshit.
The rules are not virtually the same at all and are much stricter here and in Spain, and that is not taking enforecement into account.The rules are virtually the same: no non essential travel, non essential shops closed, gatherings banned, schools closed. The only real difference is that we haven’t tried to enforce it. But it’s a lockdown. Some are tighter than others but that doesn’t stop it being a lockdown. There are laws restricting when you’re allowed to leave your house that didn’t exist before. That’s lockdown. That’s what it is.
I don’t think chihuahuas count as full dogs, but they are.
We haven't enforced it I agree.
The question is if we are classed as a lockdown compared to Spain and Italy why haven't we enforced it?
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The rules are not virtually the same at all and are much stricter here and in Spain, and that is not taking enforecement into account.
You can only go outside for exercise within 200 meters of your house (alone) - this has only been allowed within the last couple of weeksWhat's different?
You can only go outside for exercise within 200 meters of your house (alone) - this has only been allowed within the last couple of weeks
No driving around together in cars and then you can only go to work or to food shopping if you do not have a supermarket within walking distance
No driving to do exercise
Wearing a mask and gloves in public at all times
I see what you/others are getting at but the 200m rule is a big one though and seeing pictures of people running and exercising in public places is very, very different.Aside from the 200 m rule and the PPE (which is only because we don't have enough, the government are slowly changing position to reflect the stance of other nations - how many times has that happened during this crisis?) that's no different to here. It all comes under the "non-essential journeys" bit. So, we're not supposed to drive for exercise and people were fined for doing so in the last few weeks. There has been a bit of a walk back on that this week though.
See what some people are getting at? Essentially the same thing while not really enforcing it. In a way it's quite a smart move by the government but it's frustrating as people are confused and there is constant discussion in the media about what you can and can't do and sometimes shaming people for things that are tecnically allowed.
I see what you/others are getting at but the 200m rule is a big one though and seeing pictures of people running and exercising in public places is very, very different.
Yes but up until a couple of weeks ago it was not even possible to leave the house for exercise. It was possible to walk to the local shop but you had to carry a declaration form too.I can understand that mentally that makes a big difference. Since the "lockdown" started all I have done is driven to work, walk the dog a few blocks and walked to the local shop. Occasionally I will walk the dog to memorial park. So almost the same effect has been achieved by our government. The only thing I could do differently to that is drive to a supermarket or walk a bit further.
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