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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,411
CCFCSteve said:
It will no doubt increase a bit but looking at the daily totals (actual day of death) at NHS England they’ve been steadily decreasing for a while (10-14 days now)

Didn’t realise you worked at HMRC Pete, is the Furlough portal holding up ? (I wondered if they’d try to stager companies calling in/signing up ie by company name for example A-H today etc etc to try to minimise burden on the system but great news if it’s handling it)
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125 applications a second is the maximum. Received 65000 in the first 30 minutes. So proud of many of my colleagues
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,412
Sky Blue Pete said:
125 applications a second is the maximum. Received 65000 in the first 30 minutes. So proud of many of my colleagues
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That is pretty impressive, these sorts of projects are really difficult
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,413
Sky Blue Pete said:
Just seen Brazil have done 60000 tests and 40000 were positive. Think there is going to be bedlam
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With Bolsonaro in charge it could be carnage. As far as I know he's still saying it doesn't exist isn't he. Although I'm not one to wish ill on people usually it would be quite fitting if he caught it.

And don't expect their figures to be accurate - reckon a lot of those in the slums will not get counted.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,414
Sky Blue Pete said:
125 applications a second is the maximum. Received 65000 in the first 30 minutes. So proud of many of my colleagues
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Great news. Good work mate !
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,415
Sky Blue Pete said:
Just seen Brazil have done 60000 tests and 40000 were positive. Think there is going to be bedlam
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Don’t be silly, they have this guy in charge Brazil's president joins anti-lockdown protests
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,416
fernandopartridge said:
Cheers, it's interesting. 150 deaths in a month at Walsgrave pending any changes to the last few days. 150 against 493 confirmed cases in Coventry (although not sure if PHE case data is at patient address or the provider who confirmed it, no suggestion that all the deceased reside in Cov)
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The death data is deaths at that nhs trust. The case data is where the patient lives so there are likely to have been more than the 493 cases present at uhcw as cases fro local but outside Coventry would be sent there as well



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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,417

Next few days will be massive in terms of the trend.... hopefully we don’t spike too much tomrorow
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,418
skybluetony176 said:
Don’t be silly, they have this guy in charge Brazil's president joins anti-lockdown protests
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There's a crazy SOB with blood on his hands.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,419
Great figures from Italy today, decrease in the number of people positive with the virus.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,420
tisza said:
There's a crazy SOB with blood on his hands.
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The idiot in America isn’t much better either!
 
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Astute

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,421
Sick Boy said:
The idiot in America isn’t much better either!
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Most of the world seems to be run by idiots these days.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,422
Really hoping this turns out to be 'fake news' but it does seem to stand up to scrutiny. 128 twitter profiles of NHS staff found to be fake and traced back to the Department of Health and Social Care.
 
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Walsgrave

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,423
chiefdave said:
Really hoping this turns out to be 'fake news' but it does seem to stand up to scrutiny. 128 twitter profiles of NHS staff found to be fake and traced back to the Department of Health and Social Care.
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I wouldn't be surprised. They managed to dupe the public with that Fact Checking account during the election, and I would not put it past them to do it again, even in these times.
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,424
Coronavirus outbreak may have started in September, say British scientists
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,425
wingy said:
Coronavirus outbreak may have started in September, say British scientists
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Lots of people seemed to get the symptoms around December time, definitely could be something in that
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,426
Coronavirus’s ability to mutate ‘has been vastly underestimated’
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,427
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Lots of people seemed to get the symptoms around December time, definitely could be something in that
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I did
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,428
I wouldn't trust anything the south china morning post says

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chiefdave

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,429
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Lots of people seemed to get the symptoms around December time, definitely could be something in that
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There's definitely something odd been going around. I've had something for months that I haven't been able to shake. Been to the doctors a few times and they couldn't really help. Tried antibiotics as they thought it was a chest infection, did nothing. Even got sent for an x-ray to check for lung cancer!

They did say a few people seemed to have something similar. Doubt it is coronavirus, even if it didn't get worse surely it would have spread quickly and we'd have known there was a problem far earlier.
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,430
chiefdave said:
Really hoping this turns out to be 'fake news' but it does seem to stand up to scrutiny. 128 twitter profiles of NHS staff found to be fake and traced back to the Department of Health and Social Care.
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If this is true it’s fucking scandalous.
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,431
After a decade of austerity council's didn't have the services to cope with this outbreak. They were told to spend whatever was needed and they'd get it back but it looks like there are now doubts that will happen.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,432
chiefdave said:
Really hoping this turns out to be 'fake news' but it does seem to stand up to scrutiny. 128 twitter profiles of NHS staff found to be fake and traced back to the Department of Health and Social Care.
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Just came in to post this.

Utterly disgusting, but not unexpected, from this shameful government.

People will still defend them though. Unbelievable. This should be front page news but no doubt it'll get brushed under the carpet like the rest of their dirty tricks.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,433
wingy said:
Coronavirus outbreak may have started in September, say British scientists
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I don't believe it for a second but would love it to be the case. I had a horrible one with similar symptoms around New Year and would love it to have been this.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,434
SeaSeeEffCee said:
If this is true it’s fucking scandalous.
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It is but they've told lies with impunity for years now, there is no comeback. For all their rhetoric about Corbyn being a commie, their propaganda would make Stalin blush. Vile people.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,435
Again, no no one in this thread had coronavirus in December unless you were visiting Wuhan at the time. There are tons of respiratory diseases kicking around at winter. There is no suggestion we had an outbreak last year, that article is talking purely about China and is speculating a three month window Sept-Dec for the start. Let’s not start this nonsense again.

Those fake NHS Twitter accounts are a bit dodgy. It fits the whole Cummings and Johnson MO, which is also why I’ll take it with a pinch of salt until something is proven, but they do seem to be treating the pandemic the same way they treated the election and Brexit with lots of online bullshit and PR rather than what you’d expect from a government during a crisis.
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,436
If it was around in September wouldn't the hospitals have been swamped by October, with a steep spike in deaths.
 
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BackRoomRummermill

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,437
chiefdave said:
There's definitely something odd been going around. I've had something for months that I haven't been able to shake. Been to the doctors a few times and they couldn't really help. Tried antibiotics as they thought it was a chest infection, did nothing. Even got sent for an x-ray to check for lung cancer!

They did say a few people seemed to have something similar. Doubt it is coronavirus, even if it didn't get worse surely it would have spread quickly and we'd have known there was a problem far earlier.
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Do you drive a lot on Motorways ? I mean above average ?
 

chiefdave

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,438
BackRoomRummermill said:
Do you drive a lot on Motorways ? I mean above average ?
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Commute to Blythe Valley Business Park every day but thats about it so wouldn't have thought that was above average.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,439
Johnnythespider said:
If it was around in September wouldn't the hospitals have been swamped by October, with a steep spike in deaths.
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Exactly. If it was corona why would it just lie dormant for months, makes no sense. Just some other weird bug that wouldn't shift.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,440
I don’t get what’s happening really. Did we lock down too early and fear it’s length too much? Or as I suspect have we flattened the peak to ensure our health services cope
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 20, 2020
  • #18,441
And if we included deaths in care homes would we already be at a higher figure than France?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2020
  • #18,442
PVA said:
Just came in to post this.

Utterly disgusting, but not unexpected, from this shameful government.

People will still defend them though. Unbelievable. This should be front page news but no doubt it'll get brushed under the carpet like the rest of their dirty tricks.
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Imagine Corbyn posting under fake Jewish accounts
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2020
  • #18,443

Interesting
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2020
  • #18,444
Sky Blue Pete said:
I don’t get what’s happening really. Did we lock down too early and fear it’s length too much? Or as I suspect have we flattened the peak to ensure our health services cope
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If anything we locked down too late, we’ve had a similar curve to Italy compare that to countries that locked down earlier and have seen far far fewer deaths. In terms of managing healthcare capacity it seems to have been a success, if not in terms of limiting deaths.

There’s been two successful strategies so far, neither of which we followed: lockdown hard and early like NZ or contain the outbreak with track and trace and mass testing like SK.

The gamble is that those that locked down early will see a large second wave or extreme economic damage compared to those that didn’t. Well only know how true that is once we’ve run the numbers after it’s all over though.

And yes, as I understand it if we counted deaths outside hospitals we’d be above France and most other EU countries. But again really hard to tell for sure until the dust settles and we can look at overall excess deaths and normalise our some of the differences in reporting and methodologies for cause of death.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2020
  • #18,445
Liquid Gold said:

Interesting
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Got to be honest, this guy seems like a bit of a crank with a habit of self publicising through edgy views: Karol Sikora - Wikipedia
 
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