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PVA

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,061
Deleted member 5849 said:
Or alternatively, and here's a radical thought, but he really has been ill and it's pretty tasteless to go full-on conspiracy.
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I don't doubt that he has been ill.

But also it's not beyond the realms of possibility, and certainly not a weird conspiracy, that someone well known for being lazy and for shying away from work could be taking a little longer than is needed.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,062
PVA said:
I don't doubt that he has been ill.

But also it's not beyond the realms of possibility, and certainly not a weird conspiracy, that someone well known for being lazy and for shying away from work could be taking a little longer than is needed.
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That’s why starmer is a rational politician and you are - well not
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,063
Grendel said:
That’s why starmer is a rational politician and you are - well not
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You are many, many things. Rational is not one of them.

Actually shouldn't you call me a c**t for that? I know you really don't take it well when someone mentions Johnson's illness.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,064
Grendel said:
That’s why starmer is a rational politician and you are - well not
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I don’t think he’s claiming to be a politician is he? he’s pointing out that Boris Johnson has made a career out of going missing when the going gets tough. That’s not the same as saying he was never ill or being callous out of spite, it is pointing out a fact.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,065
PVA said:
You are many, many things. Rational is not one of them.

Actually shouldn't you call me a c**t for that? I know you really don't take it well when someone mentions Johnson's illness.
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I genuinely would love starmer to say it. Oddly he has a brain dignity and rational thought so will not
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,066
PVA said:
I don't doubt that he has been ill.

But also it's not beyond the realms of possibility, and certainly not a weird conspiracy, that someone well known for being lazy and for shying away from work could be taking a little longer than is needed.
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Even if you're ultimately right there's no way Starmer could win by saying this
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,067
Ring Of Steel said:
I don’t think he’s claiming to be a politician is he? he’s pointing out that Boris Johnson has made a career out of going missing when the going gets tough. That’s not the same as saying he was never ill or being callous out of spite, it is pointing out a fact.
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Exactly.

But we know Grendel doesn't deal in facts, so probably quite a difficult one for him to digest.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,068
Ring Of Steel said:
I don’t think he’s claiming to be a politician is he? he’s pointing out that Boris Johnson has made a career out of going missing when the going gets tough. That’s not the same as saying he was never ill or being callous out of spite, it is pointing out a fact.
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When has he actually gone missing when the going got tough? Jeremy Corbyn if course was missing for the whole Brexit referendum and the first to push Article 50
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,069
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Even if you're ultimately right there's no way Starmer could win by saying this
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Oh definitely not, and that's absolutely not what I was suggesting.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,070
Grendel said:
When has he actually gone missing when the going got tough? Jeremy Corbyn if course was missing for the whole Brexit referendum and the first to push Article 50
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What has this got to do with Jeremy Corbyn?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,071
PVA said:
Oh definitely not, and that's absolutely not what I was suggesting.
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When did he go missing?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,072
Ring Of Steel said:
What has this got to do with Jeremy Corbyn?
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he’s the only one whose gone missing so I assume as you don’t know about politics you got confused?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,073
Ring Of Steel said:
I don’t think he’s claiming to be a politician is he? he’s pointing out that Boris Johnson has made a career out of going missing when the going gets tough. That’s not the same as saying he was never ill or being callous out of spite, it is pointing out a fact.
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If we were politicians:

PVA: Nick Clegg on crack
G: Mark Francois
Coventrian: Ian Paisley Snr
Dave O'Day: John Prescott
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,074
Grendel said:
When has he actually gone missing when the going got tough?
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Hahaha

The time he hid in a fridge?
The time he decided to take on the might of Holly and Phil but ran scared of Andrew Neil?
The time he didn't turn up to the C4 climate debate?
The time he snatched a reporter's phone out of his hand to avoid questions about a sick boy?
The time he arranged an emergency COBRA meeting... For three days time so he could enjoy his weekend?
The time he went on a £15k holiday but wouldn't admit who paid for it?
The time he hid the Russia report?


I could go on.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,075
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If we were politicians:

PVA: Nick Clegg on crack
G: Mark Francois
Coventrian: Ian Paisley Snr
Dave O'Day: John Prescott
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I have you down as Michael Foot Astute is Roy Jenkins without a brain
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,076
PVA said:
Hahaha

The time he hid in a fridge?
The time he decided to take on the might of Holly and Phil but ran scared of Andrew Neil?
The time he didn't turn up to the C4 climate debate?
The time he snatched a reporter's phone out of his hand to avoid questions about a sick boy?
The time he arranged an emergency COBRA meeting... For three days time so he could enjoy his weekend?
The time he went on a £15k holiday but wouldn't admit who paid for it?
The time he hid the Russia report?


I could go on.
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there is a link for most if not all of them as well, we know grendel loves a link
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,077
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If we were politicians:

PVA: Nick Clegg on crack
G: Mark Francois
Coventrian: Ian Paisley Snr
Dave O'Day: John Prescott
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Mark Francois

you’ve well and truly nailed that one
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,078
Grendel said:
When has he actually gone missing when the going got tough?
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Lol
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,079
PVA said:
Hahaha

The time he hid in a fridge?
The time he decided to take on the might of Holly and Phil but ran scared of Andrew Neil?
The time he didn't turn up to the C4 climate debate?
The time he snatched a reporter's phone out of his hand to avoid questions about a sick boy?
The time he arranged an emergency COBRA meeting... For three days time so he could enjoy his weekend?
The time he went on a £15k holiday but wouldn't admit who paid for it?
The time he hid the Russia report?


I could go on.
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None of those things happened.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,080
Ring Of Steel said:
Mark Francois

you’ve well and truly nailed that one
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G does actually bear a close resemblance
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,081
PVA said:
Hahaha

The time he hid in a fridge?
The time he decided to take on the might of Holly and Phil but ran scared of Andrew Neil?
The time he didn't turn up to the C4 climate debate?
The time he snatched a reporter's phone out of his hand to avoid questions about a sick boy?
The time he arranged an emergency COBRA meeting... For three days time so he could enjoy his weekend?
The time he went on a £15k holiday but wouldn't admit who paid for it?
The time he hid the Russia report?


I could go on.
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He was in a position of strength - that’s why he didn’t need to say a thing. Leaders in power and in the driving seat never ever look to weaken their position. He could have spent the whole election on holiday and would have won such was the dire state if Labour. He would have been stupid to do anything else. He ran a perfect campaign against a rag tag dumb opponent who had lost before the campaign even began
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,082
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Lol
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you’re a fucker, all I can think of now is a red faced Mark Francois in a Union Jack blazer saying “yes but would you rather be in Italy?”
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,083
Grendel said:
He was in a position of strength - that’s why he didn’t need to say a thing. Leaders in power and in the driving seat never ever look to weaken their position. He could have spent the whole election on holiday and would have won such was the dire state if Labour. He would have been stupid to do anything else. He ran a perfect campaign against a rag tag dumb opponent who had lost before the campaign even began
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yes you’re right- Roosevelt, Kennedy, Thatcher, Blair, Churchill- all known for hiding inside a fridge when faced by the press.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,084
Grendel said:
He was in a position of strength - that’s why he didn’t need to say a thing. Leaders in power and in the driving seat never ever look to weaken their position. He could have spent the whole election on holiday and would have won such was the dire state if Labour. He would have been stupid to do anything else. He ran a perfect campaign against a rag tag dumb opponent who had lost before the campaign even began
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Amazing whataboutery, as always.

So you admit that he does hide away. Glad we agree.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,085
Ring Of Steel said:
yes you’re right- Roosevelt, Kennedy, Thatcher, Blair, Churchill- all known for hiding inside a fridge when faced by the press.
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Blair and thatcher ducked live interviews when they were ahead during elections - when the opponent is losing votes every time he opened his mouth why risk anything?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,086
Grendel said:
He was in a position of strength - that’s why he didn’t need to say a thing. Leaders in power and in the driving seat never ever look to weaken their position. He could have spent the whole election on holiday and would have won such was the dire state if Labour. He would have been stupid to do anything else. He ran a perfect campaign against a rag tag dumb opponent who had lost before the campaign even began
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All he ever does is crack off jokes and hold pints anyway he could have done both when he decided to run into a fridge
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,087
TomRad85 said:
He'd be banned if he wasn't part of the clique.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
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clint van damme said:
You think Nick is part of a political clique?
Fuck me.
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Grendel

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,088
PVA said:
Amazing whataboutery, as always.

So you admit that he does hide away. Glad we agree.
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He won - by a mile - his tactics worked - he wasn’t going to adopt the May approach was he?
 

clint van damme

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,089
Ring Of Steel said:
yes you’re right- Roosevelt, Kennedy, Thatcher, Blair, Churchill- all known for hiding inside a fridge when faced by the press.
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Beko the devil you know
 
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Astute

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,090
PVA said:
But that's probably the point. Send out all the lackeys while the figures are awful and then wheel out Boris the great saviour when the number of deaths start dropping.
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More like it is both lots that don't have a lot of talent. Most of us would be able to give the Tories a hard time.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,091
Grendel said:
Blair and thatcher ducked live interviews when they were ahead during elections - when the opponent is losing votes every time he opened his mouth why risk anything?
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Seeing as a proportion of those incidents took place outside of election time, your admirable attempt to justify has unfortunately failed.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,092
Deleted member 5849 said:
Or alternatively, and here's a radical thought, but he really has been ill and it's pretty tasteless to go full-on conspiracy.
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He can have been really ill and is still recuperating and his health should come first.

That also doesn't mean to say he (or his puppetmasters) won't delay his return longer than necessary so he returns when they have good news to shout thus psychologically distancing him in the minds of the electorate from the worst days but associating him with the good ones, making him look like a white night. He can then throw one of those filling in under the bus for poor performance (almost certainly Hancock) to look like he's taking action.

We will have to see when he returns but I do think it will just happen to coincide with good news.

Or if Cummings has it maybe he's not allowed out until daddy is there
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,093
Astute said:
More like it is both lots that don't have a lot of talent. Most of us would be able to give the Tories a hard time.
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Of course- nobody is advocating Starmer rocking up and accusing Johnson of throwing a sickie
 
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Astute

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  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,094
PVA said:
Exactly.

But we know Grendel doesn't deal in facts, so probably quite a difficult one for him to digest.
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G dies deal in facts. The problem is that they are false facts.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2020
  • #18,095
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
He can have been really ill and is still recuperating and his health should come first.

That also doesn't mean to say he (or his puppetmasters) won't delay his return longer than necessary so he returns when they have good news to shout thus psychologically distancing him in the minds of the electorate from the worst days but associating him with the good ones, making him look like a white night. He can then throw one of those filling in under the bus for poor performance (almost certainly Hancock) to look like he's taking action.

We will have to see when he returns but I do think it will just happen to coincide with good news.

Or if Cummings has it maybe he's not allowed out until daddy is there
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last thing I saw of Cummings he was on Sky News legging it over a fence- did he also contract the virus?
 
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