clint van damme
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I merely pointed out we were flying in workers. Nothing more, nothing less.
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What isn't there?
Do you mean those who brought in 150 workers because there isn't anyone in the UK that would do it? Look back in his post.
It is amazing what is missed by those normally agreed with on here.
The amount of money gained by the Treasury if they stop one tax-evading millionaire would account for countless ‘benefit cheats’
Wasn't you that I quoted.I merely pointed out we were flying in workers. Nothing more, nothing less.
If they're doing a job for somebody they should get paid, never mind 'earning' their UC.No what the government should of done was select 150 or however many needed of the long term dole dossing scroungers we have here and make them earn some of their universal credit.
It's significantly higher than thatThink the country loses something like 3 billion to evasion and 4 billion to avoidance or it may be the other way round.
That's a fair old whack.
Yep it's all relative.Board and lodgings is usually taken out of what you earn from piecework too. Simple fact is that most British people won’t move temporarily to another part of the country to take home less than minimum wage (legally) when they have the option to stay at home and take home at least the minimum wage. It’s a no brainier for British people and that’s a compliment not a criticism.
Exactly.
It is one way or no way. Just look at the latest.
Boomers are rich. They had all the money. Boo.
The most people that are on benefits are those of the age called boomers. But because they are poor they are suddenly not called boomers. And most lap it up.
Have tried to explain the difference between having left Labour but not getting a Labour government and taking the best parts of everything when we can and getting elected. But the excuses come out. It is a constant one sided rant. I fear we won't have a Labour government for a long time.
The 50-64 age group barely equates to a third of baby boomer generations.Oh yes. The boomers that have had the best of everything.
Rich when needed but poor when needed. This link is closer to the truth though.
We had people who applied for a job. Have you always took every job you’ve applied for?Wasn't you that I quoted.
A company is flying in workers. We? We had people who wanted these jobs.
It's significantly higher than that
It does raise economic issues for the future though (not the euthanasia bit).I don't know why we don't go full on down the euthenasia route .
What a drag on society that generation are .
Health,housing, monetary support, what a drain and lag on the rest of society.
you've got a figure for the outright tax evasion, then there's a figure for the "legal" evasion (like Google, Amazon etc moving their daily income offshore to tax friendly environments)My figures were estimates from HMRC.
Just googled it and other sources go as high as 70 billion.
I'd say it's it's pretty much nailed on that you're correct,.It's significantly higher, I wonder by how much?
you've got a figure for the outright tax evasion, then there's a figure for the "legal" evasion (like Google, Amazon etc moving their daily income offshore to tax friendly environments)
It does raise economic issues for the future though (not the euthanasia bit).
Companies investing billions in extending life spans = normally at the "unproducive" stages of our lives.
Getting to the situation where around half of our life spans will not be spent working (paying into the system) 18-22 years "getting ready" to join the workforce and maybe 15-20 plus years retired. Despite our best efforts we are going to be a financial issue for our kids and grandkids.
1/3 of life spans maybe?
Question, why has so much been spent on improving medicine, reducing some pollution and encouraging some healthy lifestyles?
What generation will be a financial burden on the kids? The baby boomers generally pay for care if they have the means. The state picks up the tab otherwise.
Don’t get me wrong. I think the young of today are going to have a real struggle without worrying about supporting elders.
We need 70000 workers though. By your own admission only 25000 Brits applied. We need to fly them in regardless.Wasn't you that I quoted.
A company is flying in workers. We? We had people who wanted these jobs.
We get it - in fact most people generally agree with your point.
But we’re not the ones that need to be convinced. Tell us how you intend to change a mindset of people that will actively vote NOT in their own interests?
Had the same thought, it's not a tactic that's been working well.Probably don’t patronise them that they should know better and you know what’s good for them
1/3? Does that mean we're going to live into our 100s? That's a way a way surely.1/3 of life spans maybe?
Question, why has so much been spent on improving medicine, reducing some pollution and encouraging some healthy lifestyles?
What generation will be a financial burden on the kids? The baby boomers generally pay for care if they have the means. The state picks up the tab otherwise.
Don’t get me wrong. I think the young of today are going to have a real struggle without worrying about supporting elders.
I talked about the Coventrian living in a £500k house - are you drunk?
Would you want 16 year old working class school leavers to aspire to live in half million property?
I believe that society as a whole benefits from social democracy and the Tories don't stand for that
No you weren't
Most on here don't seem to agree.We get it - in fact most people generally agree with your point.
But we’re not the ones that need to be convinced. Tell us how you intend to change a mindset of people that will actively vote NOT in their own interests?
This is the thing over the years I've found harder and harder to reconcile.
Why do we want to put a party in charge of society that, fundamentally, doesn't believe society exists? It sees it as individuals and everyone for themselves. Get as much for yourself as possible and fuck everyone else.
It'd be like having a vegan in charge of McDonalds.
Are they the boomers? Did those who have reached retirement already have the same problem?The 50-64 age group barely equates to a third of baby boomer generations.
We? Yet again it was a private company that chartered the flight.We need 70000 workers though. By your own admission only 25000 Brits applied. We need to fly them in regardless.
not surprising when the population has increased by over 8 million people since turn of the century. first time buyers priced out by private landlords so people revert to rent. why is that? country overpopulated too many people being allowed into the country. This puts a burden on nhs, schools, transport and housing. not difficult to work out
Lower tax.This is the thing over the years I've found harder and harder to reconcile.
Why do we want to put a party in charge of society that, fundamentally, doesn't believe society exists? It sees it as individuals and everyone for themselves. Get as much for yourself as possible and fuck everyone else.
It'd be like having a vegan in charge of McDonalds.
Ignorance is a virtueProbably don’t patronise them that they should know better and you know what’s good for them
You can buy a house not too far from me for less than 40k. But people still rent. Why is this?Not the massive increase in people living alone compared to yesteryear, when everyone left home when they got married. Plus an increasingly older population (or at least at the moment) that has meant properties that would become available 10-20 years earlier than they do now keeping the property ladder moving. In olden times when a parent got elderly they were moved in with their children to be cared for. Now it's just get the carers to look after them.
Then there is the issue of many properties being bought by a few people to be rented, so young people are priced out, have to rent preventing them putting together a deposit and thus can't get on the ladder.
Yes, immigration will put pressure on housing (although people handily forget that people do emigrate as well so you need to look at the net figure) but nothing compared to homegrown problems of our own making.
But don't let that get in the way of the 'bloody immigrants' rhetoric.
They’re the last of the boomers, boomers were born mid 40’s to mid 60’s meaning that the majority have already retired. So when you’re talking about a percentage of 50-64 year olds struggling to find employment you can’t equate the experience to a percentage of a percentage of a percentage of boomers to all boomers. The vast majority of boomers had it good so your one minute the boomers had it good the next they didn’t so make your mind argument is flimsy.Are they the boomers? Did those who have reached retirement already have the same problem?
See the NHS is running out of gowns now
So the government of the world's 6th biggest economy have failed to procure enough fit for purpose testing kits, face masks, gloves and gowns during this pandemic.
What a fucking shower.
I'm pretty sure Hancock said in one of the pressers only a few days ago there wasn't an issue with the amount of PPE? They really are wasting it aren't they....
I'm pretty sure Hancock said in one of the pressers only a few days ago there wasn't an issue with the amount of PPE? They really are wasting it aren't they....
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