Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
How come France has had 17000 positive tests today what’s the story
Catching up with care home testing. 36,% jump in care home infectionsHow come France has had 17000 positive tests today what’s the story
He's opened himself to anyone who rightly thinks Raab is a fucking idiot over promoted and thick as mince.Haha oh dear mate you’ve opened yourself up to all the lefties on here now
Why not?No way Raab wins the Tory leadership contest.
He didn't know Dover was an important port for UK/European trade and he has some skeletons in his closet regarding bullying and sexual harassment claims.Dominic Raab will be the next PM of this country,
Mark my words just what we need
Yeah I totally agree about the Jewish thing.
It’s such a clusterfuck man. We’ve built this environment where mere accusations of racism are virtually impossible to disprove as it’s all down to “tropes” or “feelings of the oppressed” so all you can do is resign and apologise. Hand that weapon to a pair of factions constantly at each other throats and it’s mutually assured destruction. Meanwhile the public looks on in disbelief, or more accurately rolls their eyes and ignores us.
Reading more and there’s definitely some shit behaviour in there. He’s going to have to take action but in the middle of this you’ve got the ECHR investigation and not GDPR and libel cases you’re trying not to prejudice.
Honestly worried this could kill the party. If not because of members leaving then the financial impact.
The more you look into this the worse it gets. It’s not even a new scheme for this, it was launched in June 2019! The government have just basically publicised it. Absolute jokers.
He didn't know Dover was an important port for UK/European trade and he has some skeletons in his closet regarding bullying and sexual harassment claims.
Though none of that seems to matter anymore.
Hardly surprising from a government that is only interested in headline acts and scratching the backs of their mates.the PPE farce continues:
Government 'ignores' UK textiles firms desperate to make PPE
Gardeners being urged to donate PPE now as well, what a fucking shambles.
It's behind a paywall but the headline tells you everything
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What do you think though Dom. Raab any good in your view?Haha oh dear mate you’ve opened yourself up to all the lefties on here now
Labour will never have an election win under there current guise. The working class are not interested in the left wing. The working class have deserted labour in there droves. I guess if your left wing and working class labour are great at the moment,but not for the majority of us in this country. I'm.a floating voter. I have no affiliation to any party. I'd not vote for labour though until they shake off this leftie tag. Labour have forgotten who they're supposed to represent. I work in manufacturing,arent labour supposed to be the party for the likes of me? The party for the people? Nobody I work with votes labour. I'd vote labour again in the future but not at the moment. The way the labour party is represented on here is how the floating voter sees them. Frothing left wingers who scream and shout nazi,racist,bigot at you if you disagree with them or dare raise a genuine question about something. This is why floating voters like me are kind of forced to vote Tory. I'm not getting pulled into a discussion about all this by the labour party 'enthusiasts' on here as you just cant seem to reason with them. They seem to be more into the labour party than they are the city. Like I've said,labour need to win back us,the working class neutral types we dont feel like you represent us anymore,no the Tories dont represent the working class but we know what the Tories are about,looking after the Tories but at least they dont pretend to represent the working class like labour do. Que the usual frothing idiots.Why not?
If Boris can become PM so can Raab.
And the worse thing is if the infighting continues in the Labour party they will continue to run our country. Just look on here. It is more about point scoring and having a go at Starmer than anything else. You want a left leaning leader yourself even though left leaning never wins elections.
This is why I am becoming disheartened with Labour. There's too many that are more interested in our party being run by the left than having a serious chance of winning an election.
As I said earlier if they can vote Boris in they could vote anyone in.He didn't know Dover was an important port for UK/European trade and he has some skeletons in his closet regarding bullying and sexual harassment claims.
Though none of that seems to matter anymore.
As I said earlier if they can vote Boris in they could vote anyone in.
I am more concerned with what is happening with my own party. I have been urging people to get behind Startmer. But for instance people are trying to find fault with Starmer. You have done the same yourself.
The Tories could put a monkey in charge and still win. Labour are in total disarray.
Raab has historical allegations? Wasn't a problem when we had a speaker much worse. And there is your problem. It has started to become acceptable.
Labour will never have an election win under there current guise. The working class are not interested in the left wing. The working class have deserted labour in there droves. I guess if your left wing and working class labour are great at the moment,but not for the majority of us in this country. I'm.a floating voter. I have no affiliation to any party. I'd not vote for labour though until they shake off this leftie tag. Labour have forgotten who they're supposed to represent. I work in manufacturing,arent labour supposed to be the party for the likes of me? The party for the people? Nobody I work with votes labour. I'd vote labour again in the future but not at the moment. The way the labour party is represented on here is how the floating voter sees them. Frothing left wingers who scream and shout nazi,racist,bigot at you if you disagree with them or dare raise a genuine question about something. This is why floating voters like me are kind of forced to vote Tory. I'm not getting pulled into a discussion about all this by the labour party 'enthusiasts' on here as you just cant seem to reason with them. They seem to be more into the labour party than they are the city. Like I've said,labour need to win back us,the working class neutral types we dont feel like you represent us anymore,no the Tories dont represent the working class but we know what the Tories are about,looking after the Tories but at least they dont pretend to represent the working class like labour do. Que the usual frothing idiots.
I also worked in manufacturing. We are all union members. Many of us have close ties to our union. Our union tells us who we should vote for. But most ignore the advice as they don't trust anything seriously to the left. But previously you would have struggled to find a single Tory voter. Even most of the younger members just starting off their career vote Tory more than Labour.Labour will never have an election win under there current guise. The working class are not interested in the left wing. The working class have deserted labour in there droves. I guess if your left wing and working class labour are great at the moment,but not for the majority of us in this country. I'm.a floating voter. I have no affiliation to any party. I'd not vote for labour though until they shake off this leftie tag. Labour have forgotten who they're supposed to represent. I work in manufacturing,arent labour supposed to be the party for the likes of me? The party for the people? Nobody I work with votes labour. I'd vote labour again in the future but not at the moment. The way the labour party is represented on here is how the floating voter sees them. Frothing left wingers who scream and shout nazi,racist,bigot at you if you disagree with them or dare raise a genuine question about something. This is why floating voters like me are kind of forced to vote Tory. I'm not getting pulled into a discussion about all this by the labour party 'enthusiasts' on here as you just cant seem to reason with them. They seem to be more into the labour party than they are the city. Like I've said,labour need to win back us,the working class neutral types we dont feel like you represent us anymore,no the Tories dont represent the working class but we know what the Tories are about,looking after the Tories but at least they dont pretend to represent the working class like labour do. Que the usual frothing idiots.
Everything is shut down. This isn't like when a leader normally takes over. No question times. No debates.I am giving Starmer a chance and acknowledge the issues surrounding this report have given him a major headache.
But, yes, early days, but what has Starmer done well so far in your opinion?
The whole point of the Labour Party is to be be a left wing party!I'd not vote for labour though until they shake off this leftie tag.
Love that it’s bang on and my repeated mantra to far too many good people and friendsThat’s a lot of words to say absolutely nothing.
Labour went into the last election offering to cut your bills, create thousands of well paid unionised and skilled jobs, build council houses, raise the NMW and tons more that would benefit the working class.
You haven’t given one actual reason Labour are against the working class because you don’t have one. You have a feeling because youve been told that by a thousand Facebook memes and because Corbyn doesn’t hate immigrants.
You’ve been had mate. You e been conned. The Tories don’t give a shit about you and if you’re honest you can’t actually name anything past Brexit that they’re offering and even that you don’t know what’ll benefit you.
The Tories had the thinnest manifesto in history. They’re cutting services and stripping workers rights and you’ve been conned into voting for them by tickling your patriotism bone.
It’s so telling that so many of you guys go on and on and on about Labour but never say what’s so great about the Tories. Like someone who’s wife left them and they can’t shut up about them. You obviously care about Labour, it screams out of every post.
Spending untold billions to give free internet to all with finances that didn't stand up and in a timescale that wasn't possible.Labour went into the last election offering to cut your bills, create thousands of well paid unionised and skilled jobs, build council houses, raise the NMW and tons more that would benefit the working class.
Everything is shut down. This isn't like when a leader normally takes over. No question times. No debates.
Are you expecting a running commentary on everything that is happening?
But not so left to alienate the floating voters.The whole point of the Labour Party is to be be a left wing party!
They are supposed to be reconvened within a week.He should be calling Hancock out everyday over his lies and his attempts to throw everyone from footballers to NHS staff under the bus.
He's made a couple of wishy washy statements so he has being commenting but it's been poor so far in my opinion.
Spending untold billions to give free internet to all with finances that didn't stand up and in a timescale that wasn't possible.
Jobs? What was that?
What we did have was a leader that was useless. And you say the same yourself now. That is why the Tories didn't even need a manifesto. We were beat even before the election was called. Yet many just want the same again. A leader hanging on the left so far that they are not interested in the better things towards the other side of the spectrum. And we will never get in until things change.
They are supposed to be reconvened within a week.
What is the use of asking questions through the media? They won't even want to answer them when they are in a position where they are supposed to answer them. All he has been able to do is ask questions like what are our plans on removing lockdown. This has been ignored.
But not so left to alienate the floating voters.
Things changed when Scotland was lost to Labour. We need left wing policies but left wing policies don't get you in power anymore. The only chance we have is Starmer doing what John Smith did in the 90's. If not we will be under Tory rule for a long time.
Labour will never have an election win under there current guise. The working class are not interested in the left wing. The working class have deserted labour in there droves. I guess if your left wing and working class labour are great at the moment,but not for the majority of us in this country. I'm.a floating voter. I have no affiliation to any party. I'd not vote for labour though until they shake off this leftie tag. Labour have forgotten who they're supposed to represent. I work in manufacturing,arent labour supposed to be the party for the likes of me? The party for the people? Nobody I work with votes labour. I'd vote labour again in the future but not at the moment. The way the labour party is represented on here is how the floating voter sees them. Frothing left wingers who scream and shout nazi,racist,bigot at you if you disagree with them or dare raise a genuine question about something. This is why floating voters like me are kind of forced to vote Tory. I'm not getting pulled into a discussion about all this by the labour party 'enthusiasts' on here as you just cant seem to reason with them. They seem to be more into the labour party than they are the city. Like I've said,labour need to win back us,the working class neutral types we dont feel like you represent us anymore,no the Tories dont represent the working class but we know what the Tories are about,looking after the Tories but at least they dont pretend to represent the working class like labour do. Que the usual frothing idiots.
Labour will never have an election win under there current guise. The working class are not interested in the left wing. The working class have deserted labour in there droves. I guess if your left wing and working class labour are great at the moment,but not for the majority of us in this country. I'm.a floating voter. I have no affiliation to any party. I'd not vote for labour though until they shake off this leftie tag. Labour have forgotten who they're supposed to represent. I work in manufacturing,arent labour supposed to be the party for the likes of me? The party for the people? Nobody I work with votes labour. I'd vote labour again in the future but not at the moment. The way the labour party is represented on here is how the floating voter sees them. Frothing left wingers who scream and shout nazi,racist,bigot at you if you disagree with them or dare raise a genuine question about something. This is why floating voters like me are kind of forced to vote Tory. I'm not getting pulled into a discussion about all this by the labour party 'enthusiasts' on here as you just cant seem to reason with them. They seem to be more into the labour party than they are the city. Like I've said,labour need to win back us,the working class neutral types we dont feel like you represent us anymore,no the Tories dont represent the working class but we know what the Tories are about,looking after the Tories but at least they dont pretend to represent the working class like labour do. Que the usual frothing idiots.
Any chance of keeping this fact based?you're contradicting yourself here, you're saying Corbyn was a poor leader but you're excusing Starmer for starting his tenure in exactly the same vein.
Spending untold billions to give free internet to all with finances that didn't stand up and in a timescale that wasn't possible.
Jobs? What was that?
What we did have was a leader that was useless. And you say the same yourself now. That is why the Tories didn't even need a manifesto. We were beat even before the election was called. Yet many just want the same again. A leader hanging on the left so far that they are not interested in the better things towards the other side of the spectrum. And we will never get in until things change.
Shall I join you in having a go at Starmer on everything you can think of? Might as well.so why is he making ineffectual statements straight out of the Peston/Kussenburg playbook?
His statement today about Raab was vapid.
Any chance of keeping this fact based?
I keep asking you how it can be done through the media when you know they won't reply. You haven't answered that once yet.
I keep saying they are planned to reconvene on the 21st....within a week. Shall we wait to see or just say he is as bad as Corbyn before he gets a chance.
Shall I join you in having a go at Starmer on everything you can think of? Might as well.
They are not full left wing as many seem to want. What you are questioning between the lines is can he be left wing enough.Starmers pledges are left wing, it's his willingness or ability to deliver that I'm questioning.
They are not full left wing as many seem to want. What you are questioning between the lines is can he be left wing enough.
What would you prefer. A Labour leader that appeals to many and can get voted in or total left wing that will stay in opposition?
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