Non AMP
Sky Blues Talk
  • Home
  • Forums
  • General Discussion
  • Off Topic Chat
This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (18 Viewers)

  • Thread starter BackRoomRummermill
  • Start date Feb 23, 2020
Forums New posts
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 491
  • 492
  • 493
  • 494
  • 495
  • …
  • 1666
Next
First Prev 493 of 1666 Next Last

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,221
shmmeee said:
Just saw Hancock saying it’s down to demand not capacity.

I do have to question why countries that have stated testing is part of their plan can get the tests and those that have gone a different route have problems.
Click to expand...
There isn’t much of an in vitro diagnostics industry in the U.K., there never has been really as the domestic market is so small. Germany and the US have always had big players in that industry and seem to have had the ability to do lots of tests. I wonder if there is a link? Demand is being gradually increased, following increases in capacity, as the availability of testing to more groups is opened up.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,222
MalcSB said:
There isn’t much of an in vitro diagnostics industry in the U.K., there never has been really as the domestic market is so small. Germany and the US have always had big players in that industry and seem to have had the ability to do lots of tests. I wonder if there is a link? Demand is being gradually increased, following increases in capacity, as the availability of testing to more groups is opened up.
Click to expand...

I may be being stupid here, but we live in a world of global trade, couldn’t we just buy them in? IIRC Germany were doing tests for Italy at one point.

Looking at the country by country rates were below places like Equador and Turkey, do these places have large in vitro diagnostics industries?

Don’t mean this to come across as accusatory, all genuine questions sorry.
 
Reactions: Sky Blue Pete

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,223
Germany opening schools from May 4th and some shops from next week
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,224
shmmeee said:
I may be being stupid here, but we live in a world of global trade, couldn’t we just buy them in? IIRC Germany were doing tests for Italy at one point.

Looking at the country by country rates were below places like Equador and Turkey, do these places have large in vitro diagnostics industries?

Don’t mean this to come across as accusatory, all genuine questions sorry.
Click to expand...
I really don’t know, I was just trying to make sense of it. We clearly started from a low base in terms of equipment. It’s a new virus and the test is a genetic test so there wouldn’t have been specific reagents on the shelf. Did Turkey start seeing cases earlier and got in the market before the supply became limited? Have all countries been as stringent in terms of acceptability of sensitivity and specificity of tests used - there seems to be a lot of stuff out there that isn’t great. Locally, all the stops have been pulled out to develop a robust testing capability in a very short time frame against difficulties with supply.

I guess there will be a review after the event. Whether that will identify the root cause - who knows. To a very great extent, the difficulties with supply of PPE are the most difficult to understand. None of that kit is new or specific.
 
Reactions: shmmeee and CCFCSteve

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,225
Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Liam Gallagher is putting on a free concert for nhs workers at the 02
Click to expand...


That will kill the Virus.

 

rondog1973

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,226
David O'Day said:
Yep she knows this as well

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
She also coined the term alternative facts...
 

Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,227
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yeah. Have you seen the amount of barbers down FGS? That's a lot of men needing a haircut in such a small area.....
Click to expand...
There's also a lot of baldies in Holland
 

Gray

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,228
shmmeee said:
I may be being stupid here, but we live in a world of global trade, couldn’t we just buy them in? IIRC Germany were doing tests for Italy at one point.


Looking at the country by country rates were below places like Equador and Turkey, do these places have large in vitro diagnostics industries?

Don’t mean this to come across as accusatory, all genuine questions sorry.
Click to expand...

Turkey is 3 times the size of the UK and most people live in villages, so keeping away from people is easier. Here we are squeezed into a relatively small space with the 2nd highest population in Europe. You can't judge every country the same
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,229
Gray said:
Turkey is 3 times the size of the UK and most people live in villages, so keeping away from people is easier. Here we are squeezed into a relatively small space with the 2nd highest population in Europe. You can't judge every country the same
Click to expand...

What’s that got to do with the number of tests per capita they’ve done?
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,230
Lockdown Lessons #9

nasal hair clippers weren’t such a shit christmas present after all
 
Reactions: skybluetony176 and clint van damme

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,231
What’s happening in France and is that us in 2 weeks?
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,232
USA, Germany, France, Spain and Italy all seem to have some sort of strategy coming out for getting out the lockdown....does anyone think our government has even thought this through yet? I know we’re behind a few of them but who knows
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,233
Sky Blue Pete said:
What’s happening in France and is that us in 2 weeks?
Click to expand...
Lockdown till the 11th with some things then reopening and some schools back by the end of May
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,234
Also the government said today that the capacity is there today to do all the testing but the demand isn’t there....something I’m also confused about because isn’t everyone pissed were not testing enough?
 
Reactions: Sky_Blue_Dreamer

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,235
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Also the government said today that the capacity is there today to do all the testing but the demand isn’t there....something I’m also confused about because isn’t everyone pissed were not testing enough?
Click to expand...
It's just more horseshit from Hancock. The NHS employees alone could eat that extra capacity pretty quickly.
 

SkyBlueCharlie9

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,236
shmmeee said:
First heard this story yesterday and it was £1m, then saw it a bit later £2m, this morning on FB it was at £5m, now £7m!

At this rate this guy will be funding more of the NHS than the government!
Click to expand...
More than Starbucks et al.
 
Reactions: chiefdave

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,237
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Also the government said today that the capacity is there today to do all the testing but the demand isn’t there....something I’m also confused about because isn’t everyone pissed were not testing enough?
Click to expand...

Yep - no demand my arse. There must be hundreds of thousands of people who'd love to be tested to see if they've got it or not. Not to mention all the health and care workers.
 
Reactions: Sick Boy and hill83

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,238
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yep - no demand my arse. There must be hundreds of thousands of people who'd love to be tested to see if they've got it or not. Not to mention all the health and care workers.
Click to expand...

I’d like a test to see if I’ve had it or not please.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,239
The more that comes out the worse it gets. Is there actually anything the government haven't messed up in handling this crisis?

Social care virus response sparks 'confusion'
Written on Saturday to a senior official at the Department of Health and Social Care by the Association of Directors of Adult Social Services (Adass), it says mixed messages from the government have created "confusion and additional workload".

On protective equipment for care workers, the letter says the national handling has been "shambolic".

Early drops of equipment have been "paltry" and more recent deliveries have been "haphazard", with some even being confiscated by border control for the NHS.
Click to expand...
Brits criticise 'shambolic' return from India
British tourists returning from India have called the UK government response "shambolic" and "embarrassing".

Some said it took hours to reach anyone by phone, communication was confusing and the British authorities were "incompetent and uncaring".

One man, who is still in India, said he was told he was being taken to a flight but later found out this was an error.
Click to expand...
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,240
Sky Blue Pete said:
What’s happening in France and is that us in 2 weeks?
Click to expand...
If you go past the headlines....yes it could be us.

Parts of what is happening are confusing. One woman started advertising her hairdressers was opening on the 11th March. Social media went into meltdown. Half were saying it wasn't allowed and the other half were saying it was allowed.

Children's clothes shops are allowed to reopen on the 11th. Does this mean only children's clothes or is it any shop that sells some children's clothes? If this is the case can a shop start selling some children's clothes and then reopen?

They have managed the situation much better than we have. But there is still a lot of confusion about. You can't shut life down as we know it and not explain every point clearly. But how do you explain every point clearly when people are desperate to get their businesses up and running again so are looking for loopholes.

The only clear rule is no entertainment business of any kind is allowed to reopen until at least mid July.
 
Reactions: SkyBlueDom26

singers_pore

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,241
Almost every government and MSM outlet has fucked up since this started back in January. It crosses the political spectrum from the right (Trump, Boris) to the left (the socialist's wet dream of Sweden).

Personally, when all this is done and dusted, I hope the people who fucked up are held to account. Time to dust off those guillotines.
 
Reactions: Astute

Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,242
World Health Organisation::
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,243
Gazolba said:
World Health Organisation::
Click to expand...
Haha wow never realised just how bad Fox was, no doubt many will actually fall for the propaganda and start to focus away from Trump.
No one else is to blame apart from him for what’s going on in America, the guy is clearly unhinged and has majorly fucked up.
 
Last edited: Apr 16, 2020
Reactions: Liquid Gold

Wyken Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,244
What a man!
Capt Tom Moore's joy as his NHS fundraiser tops £11m JANE FRYER meets Tom Moore, the war veteran who has raised £11million (and counting!) for the NHS | Daily Mail Online

Sent from my I3113 using Tapatalk
 
Reactions: MalcSB, SkyBlueDom26, CCFCSteve and 1 other person

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,245
Sick Boy said:
Haha wow never realised just how bad Fox was, no doubt many will actually fall for the propaganda and start to focus away from Trump.
No one else is to blame apart from him for what’s going on in America, the guy is clearly unhinged and has majorly fucked up.
Click to expand...

"look at the facts and rise above partisan bickering" HAHA!!
 
Reactions: Sick Boy

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,246
skyblue1991 said:
What a man!
Capt Tom Moore's joy as his NHS fundraiser tops £11m JANE FRYER meets Tom Moore, the war veteran who has raised £11million (and counting!) for the NHS | Daily Mail Online

Sent from my I3113 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

It's over 12 mil! Every time someone announces a figure it immediately becomes incorrect a the amount goes up!
 
Reactions: MalcSB, Ian1779, CCFCSteve and 1 other person

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,247
chiefdave said:
The more that comes out the worse it gets. Is there actually anything the government haven't messed up in handling this crisis?
Click to expand...
PR. Seemingly large sections of society are convinced that Boris is some sort of Tory Jesus and therefore the government are beyond reproach. That’s good PR for you.
 
D

Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,248
clint van damme said:
It's over 12 mil! Every time someone announces a figure it immediately becomes incorrect a the amount goes up!
Click to expand...
I don't know what to make of it. Fair play to him, and all, but *we* should be looking after *him*.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,249
Deleted member 5849 said:
I don't know what to make of it. Fair play to him, and all, but *we* should be looking after *him*.
Click to expand...

true, but he seemed over the moon when I saw him interviewed two days ago.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,250
Sick Boy said:
Haha wow never realised just how bad Fox was, no doubt many will actually fall for the propaganda and start to focus away from Trump.
No one else is to blame apart from him for what’s going on in America, the guy is clearly unhinged and has majorly fucked up.
Click to expand...
Sad thing is Gazolba probably agrees with that nonsense

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
 
Reactions: Sick Boy

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,251
clint van damme said:
It's over 12 mil! Every time someone announces a figure it immediately becomes incorrect a the amount goes up!
Click to expand...
Brilliant but sad that we don't live in a country were the health services financial settlement pays for even it's day to day operations

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,252
Gazolba said:
World Health Organisation::
Click to expand...
Fox News rots your brain.
 
Reactions: Sick Boy

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,253
chiefdave said:
The more that comes out the worse it gets. Is there actually anything the government haven't messed up in handling this crisis?

Social care virus response sparks 'confusion'

Brits criticise 'shambolic' return from India
Click to expand...

When people cheer lead austerity and getting rid of civil servants etc, this sort of thing is the result. Contrary to what the Daily Mail says, there weren't millions of people employed as 'Diversity Advisors' or 'Health and Safety Advisors', they were people performing roles that provided a public service function, which the post 2010 government decided didn't matter.
 
Reactions: chiefdave, Sky Blue Pete, Ian1779 and 2 others

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,254
Gazolba said:
World Health Organisation::
Click to expand...
Stop watching Fox News because Fox News contrives to frighten you.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 16, 2020
  • #17,255
Deleted member 5849 said:
I don't know what to make of it. Fair play to him, and all, but *we* should be looking after *him*.
Click to expand...
Every time I see it it makes me uncomfortable. Like you say, fair play to the guy but he’s paid taxes hi while life. We all pay taxes now. That’s what should be funding the NHS not some mad go fund me.
 
Reactions: wingy, shmmeee and BodicoteSkyBlue
Prev
  • 1
  • …
  • 491
  • 492
  • 493
  • 494
  • 495
  • …
  • 1666
Next
First Prev 493 of 1666 Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 12 (members: 0, guests: 12)
Share:
Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email
  • Home
  • Forums
  • General Discussion
  • Off Topic Chat
  • Default Style
  • Contact us
  • Terms and rules
  • Privacy policy
  • Help
  • Home
Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2021 XenForo Ltd.
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Home
  • Forums
    • New posts
    • Search forums
  • What's new
    • New posts
    • Latest activity
  • Members
    • Current visitors
  • Donate to the Season Ticket Fund
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?