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clint van damme

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,186
Incredible effort. Turns 100 on the last day of this month. Legend.
 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,187
clint van damme said:
Was speaking to a UK based Polish girl at work today. She said that they were
still locked down .
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easing up from Thursday but if you go outside have to wear a mask or scarf across your face. One eye on the May Presidential election
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,188
Ring Of Steel said:
There is no way in hell you can stand over the conscious decision to not test people in care homes. You just can't. You are knowingly sending peopl e to- at best- sickness and a good chance of death. Call the terminology over the top if you like, perhaps "murderous negligence" might be better, but you cannot justify, explain away or justify what is happening in care homes.
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Isn’t this all down to lack of testing generally? Have we ever had a reason given why our capacity is so low?
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,189
The set of bslls on Hancock.


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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,190
shmmeee said:
Isn’t this all down to lack of testing generally? Have we ever had a reason given why our capacity is so low?
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The more suspicious would say that herd immunity was never actually given up on, I don't know.

There are care home workers being refused tests on the basis that its "NHS workers only"- people should be fucking locked up when this is over. Even Ireland- tiny- is testing way more than the UK, it cannot just be some kind of problem or issue.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,191
Ring Of Steel said:
There is no way in hell you can stand over the conscious decision to not test people in care homes. You just can't. You are knowingly sending people to- at best- sickness and a good chance of death. Call the terminology over the top if you like, perhaps "murderous negligence" might be better, but you cannot justify, explain away or justify what is happening in care homes.
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That wasn’t the discussion or point mate. This was about testing those returning from hospital to a care home (which I’m glad they’re now doing but thought the comments were OTT)
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,192
CCFCSteve said:
That wasn’t the discussion or point mate. This was about testing those returning from hospital to a care home (which I’m glad they’re now doing but thought the comments were OTT)
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ok fair enough- I'm still working and grumpy and just popped over for a gander. Still- when you are refusing tests to care home workers when we apparently have all this "ramped up" capacity, can't be right.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,193
shmmeee said:
Isn’t this all down to lack of testing generally? Have we ever had a reason given why our capacity is so low?
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What’s more bizarre is that we aren’t currently utilising the increased capacity !!!!
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,194
CCFCSteve said:
What’s more bizarre is that we aren’t currently utilising the increased capacity !!!!
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I hate to break it to you but they're full of shite. The additional capacity no doubt has numerous caveats like most of their headlines.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,195
The non testing of people heading back to a care home from hospital is negligent and will have killed countless people.

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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,196
Ring Of Steel said:
ok fair enough- I'm still working and grumpy and just popped over for a gander. Still- when you are refusing tests to care home workers when we apparently have all this "ramped up" capacity, can't be right.
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Think they are now offering testing to all care workers (agree with you about issues in the past though)

ps sticking with your work is probably more fun than catching up on here !! Couldn’t resist a quick look either though !
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,197
fernandopartridge said:
I hate to break it to you but they're full of shite. The additional capacity no doubt has numerous caveats like most of their headlines.
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The president of the institute of biomedical sciences was on the bbc today.

There is issues with the amount of reagents available. The government was late in speaking to the chemical manufacturers about production.

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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,198
David O'Day said:
The government was late

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The governments motto throughout this crisis
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,199
Whitty said we are at the peak however deaths will continue to go up for 10 days or so
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,200
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Whitty said we are at the peak however deaths will continue to go up for 10 days or so
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Yes because if we are at the peak of infections already infected people will die.

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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,201
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Whitty said we are at the peak however deaths will continue to go up for 10 days or so
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Let's hope this is true, if it is true then the Nightingale hospitals will never get anywhere near capacity if used much at all.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,202
I can’t even.


Those who are sympathetic to the Trumps of this world, help me out here. Is she too stupid to know what the 19 stands for or is she intentionally lying to voters to rile them up against the WHO?

I honestly don’t know which is worse.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,203
fernandopartridge said:
Let's hope this is true, if it is true then the Nightingale hospitals will never get anywhere near capacity if used much at all.
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Doesn’t the model predict a larger wave around winter?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,204
Wuhan ‘wet markets’ reopen as WHO gives green light despite coronavirus link
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,205
shmmeee said:
Doesn’t the model predict a larger wave around winter?
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I'm not sure, I don't think so necessarily. The London Nightingale is different to the others mind, in that it's for critically ill patients whereas the others aren't.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,206
fernandopartridge said:
I'm not sure, I don't think so necessarily. The London Nightingale is different to the others mind, in that it's for critically ill patients whereas the others aren't.
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Yeah the london one was designed because they saw Milan and were scared that the London ICU departments would be over run.

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David O'Day

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,207
shmmeee said:
I can’t even.


Those who are sympathetic to the Trumps of this world, help me out here. Is she too stupid to know what the 19 stands for or is she intentionally lying to voters to rile them up against the WHO?

I honestly don’t know which is worse.
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I like the comment underneath about malcolm x following malcolm ix

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,208
The lack of testing now is either a failure by government to secure the tests/processing by now given so many other countries are capable of much higher levels, or it is deliberately being kept low despite expert advice and some evidence to back up testing makes a massive difference and the rhetoric of ramping up is a complete lie that needs to be called out and investigated.

Being shit at your job is one thing. To deliberately mislead the public of your intentions in a health crisis is quite another. At best scandalous, at worse criminal. But misleading people is what they do best.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,209
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Wuhan ‘wet markets’ reopen as WHO gives green light despite coronavirus link
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Article is a bit confused. A wet market is just any market selling meat and veg, Coventry Market is a wet market.

The one they’re reporting on had live crabs and crayfish, which is pretty normal AFAIK. China banned a whole load of animals as meat quite recently.

Seems like most of the article is Australia’s far right PM getting angry at stuff he doesn’t understand.
 

Ian1779

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,210
fernandopartridge said:
28 year old pregnant nurse has died from CV, baby delivered by c-section has survived for now. How tragic:

Pregnant NHS nurse dies with coronavirus – but baby saved
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This is tragic... how come she wasn’t at home as she would be identified as vulnerable/at risk?

Just floating the question not accusing to be clear.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,211
Total cases and deaths down again @Sick Boy

Great news for Italy, looks like its really starting to turn a corner
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,212
shmmeee said:
I can’t even.


Those who are sympathetic to the Trumps of this world, help me out here. Is she too stupid to know what the 19 stands for or is she intentionally lying to voters to rile them up against the WHO?

I honestly don’t know which is worse.
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Isn’t the 19 just an abbreviation of 2019? Ie the year the virus hit.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,213
skybluetony176 said:
Isn’t the 19 just an abbreviation of 2019? Ie the year the virus hit.
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Yep.

The virus is SARS-Cov-2 after SARS which was SARS-Cov-1.
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,214
shmmeee said:
Article is a bit confused. A wet market is just any market selling meat and veg, Coventry Market is a wet market.

The one they’re reporting on had live crabs and crayfish, which is pretty normal AFAIK. China banned a whole load of animals as meat quite recently.

Seems like most of the article is Australia’s far right PM getting angry at stuff he doesn’t understand.
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Yeah Dom posted a video of a market that sold fish and veg and called it disgusting.

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David O'Day

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,215
skybluetony176 said:
Isn’t the 19 just an abbreviation of 2019? Ie the year the virus hit.
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Yep she knows this as well

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Sick Boy

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,216
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Total cases and deaths down again @Sick Boy

Great news for Italy, looks like its really starting to turn a corner
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Yes it does mate I also heard that the intensive care cases keep falling as well, I have had a couple of client pitches the last couple of days so not been able to watch the daily briefings, will try to tomorrow though
 
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MalcSB

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,217
shmmeee said:
Isn’t this all down to lack of testing generally? Have we ever had a reason given why our capacity is so low?
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Capacity is not the same as tests done. Capacity is increasing. Tests done is a function of the testing strategy in place. More NHS staff are being tested now in addition to hospital patients. You have to increase the available capacity before offering the test more widely else that capacity will be swamped, backlogs developed and turnaround time for results extended. Availability of testing equipment and test reagents has been limited and delivery unreliable. There has been no financial barrier to the acquisition of either.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,218
MalcSB said:
Capacity is not the same as tests done. Capacity is increasing. Tests done is a function of the testing strategy in place. More NHS staff are being tested now in addition to hospital patients. You have to increase the available capacity before offering the test more widely else that capacity will be swamped, backlogs developed and turnaround time for results extended. Availability of testing equipment and test reagents has been limited and delivery unreliable. There has been no financial barrier to the acquisition of either.
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Just saw Hancock saying it’s down to demand not capacity.

I do have to question why countries that have stated testing is part of their plan can get the tests and those that have gone a different route have problems.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,219
Jesus.

 

Grendel

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  • Apr 15, 2020
  • #17,220
The
shmmeee said:
Jesus.

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Are you surprised?
 
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