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PVA

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,661
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Didn't he also claim that the only reason Italy was so bad was because of some illegal Chinese migrants and that it was an anomaly against the rest of Europe?

Guess we can't all be on the extreme levels of rational debate that Grendel deploy on here daily. Whether it's the constant whataboutery, the intentional misrepresentation of other's argument or, my personal favourite, just saying 'that's irrelevant' whenever he know he's wrong, it's truly an honour to be in the presence of such a master debater.
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He should be a politician
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,662
Sick Boy said:
The situation in the UK is more of a restriction of movement rather than an actual lockdown, IMO.
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It is ‘but the very small percentage of people not heeding the Government advice are now being used
As a convenient object of blame by the Government ‘for the horrific levels of infections and deaths we
Are now seeing.
 
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Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,663
Ring Of Steel said:
I don’t like the guy but if he’s jogging around a park with nobody else anywhere near him, is that really such a terrible thing? I don’t know the specifics over there, aren’t you allowed out to exercise long as you observe the rules?

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Not sure ‘but I thought he’d been locking down as he’d had symptoms
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,664
PVA said:
He should be a politician
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I think there’s a height requirement
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,665
skybluetony176 said:
Or extend the transition period.
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Could be, but only because of COVID -19.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,666
Brylowes said:
Not sure ‘but I thought he’d been locking down as he’d had symptoms
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His daughter had symptoms and they were supposed to be self isolating but he got her queue jumped for a test ahead of NHS staff. I’m guessing she didn’t have it.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,667
skybluetony176 said:
His daughter had symptoms and they were supposed to be self isolating but he got her queue jumped for a test ahead of NHS staff. I’m guessing she didn’t have it.
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She didn’t that’s right
 
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Johhny Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,668
Astute said:
Your mother is short and argumentative?
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No. But I did complain about eating Broccoli once and she asked me if I'd rather live in Italy?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,669
Ring Of Steel said:
Actually it’s not because you haven’t made any claims yet, you’re telling porkies again
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Yes your constant accusations regarding the schemes are lies the rules are very clearly laid out. Oh and the actual date of the system opening (which we’d already discussed when you made up the cash flow audit measurements) is likely to be later than the date on the system so I’m sure your can fabricate some more anti establishment rhetoric off the back of it
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,670
Sick Boy said:
haha coming from the person who claimed the Russian military were imposing the lockdown in Italy.
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I didn’t claim that but we can carry on
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,671
Grendel said:
Yes your constant accusations regarding the schemes are lies the rules are very clearly laid out. Oh and the actual date of the system opening (which we’d already discussed when you made up the cash flow audit measurements) is likely to be later than the date on the system so I’m sure your can fabricate some more anti establishment rhetoric off the back of it
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Indeed. However I’m still quite interested to know which portal you used to make the claims to the government (that you told everyone you’d made), when the portal is not active yet?
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,672
Grendel said:
I didn’t claim that but we can carry on
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errr, you did, as well as saying that Italy were “panicking”, but that they are unique because they exploit lots of cheap imported Chinese labour in their fashion industry. Then someone pointed out thats about 200km away from the outbreak and that theory was quickly & silently dropped- but what’s the point in any of this, I’ll leave you to it.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,673
Ring Of Steel said:
Indeed. However I’m still quite interested to know which portal you used to make the claims to the government (that you told everyone you’d made), when the portal is not active yet?
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Ive said we’ve been assured the scheme will be as per the rules very clearly laid out and those people fitting the criteria there is no issues with. Given you claimed you’d been told this scheme is a low and is a loan not a grant at all then we can tic tac all we like - I mean as you are an accountant I’m sure you’ve looked at the rules haven’t you? Or are you a construction worker this week or is it a specialist on financial services? You seem to have lots of different jobs so it’s hard to know which one I’m talking to today
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,674
Ring Of Steel said:
errr, you did, as well as saying that Italy were “panicking”, but that they are unique because they exploit lots of cheap imported Chinese labour in their fashion industry. Then someone pointed out thats about 200km away from the outbreak and that theory was quickly & silently dropped- but what’s the point in any of this, I’ll leave you to it.
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No I didn’t but anyway
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,675
Brylowes said:
It is ‘but the very small percentage of people not heeding the Government advice are now being used
As a convenient object of blame by the Government ‘for the horrific levels of infections and deaths we
Are now seeing.
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Not quite sure where you’ve heard (or how you’ve interpreted) that. There’s constant re-enforcing of the self isolation message and an underlying narrative that if the public don’t follow the current measures stronger ones could be implemented, however, all I’ve heard by enlarge, is praise for a majority of public’s response to date
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,676
Grendel said:
Ive said we’ve been assured the scheme will be as per the rules very clearly laid out and those people fitting the criteria there is no issues with. Given you claimed you’d been told this scheme is a low and is a loan not a grant at all then we can tic tac all we like - I mean as you are an accountant I’m sure you’ve looked at the rules haven’t you? Or are you a construction worker this week or is it a specialist on financial services? You seem to have lots of different jobs so it’s hard to know which one I’m talking to today
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So basically you are now confirming that you lied when you explicitly said you’d claimed already. No problem.
 

rob9872

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,677
I know you're bored, stuck inside, but I have to say on both sides of tge argument, you're nothing more than petty point scoring pricks. Reading through it really is embarrassing. Try to leave this thread, it's unhealthy and about as useful as the ridiculously lengthy Brexit one. We know which side of the fence you're on, yet some of you have to kedp reminding us by posting on every single page. Have a wank, go for a run, speak to your family, watch Netflix but ffs get off this thread. Imagine if you contract Covid and your last 2 weeks were spent arguing on here?
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,678
Grendel said:
No I didn’t but anyway
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Grendel said:
Italy is unique to its exploration of illegal Chinese workers who are shipped in and out to support their fashion industry
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Corona in reverse

Sure you didn't.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,679
skybluetony176 said:
His daughter had symptoms and they were supposed to be self isolating but he got her queue jumped for a test ahead of NHS staff. I’m guessing she didn’t have it.
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She didn’t have it, Gove is a disgusting little weasel who has cheated the system when thousands of nhs staff haven’t been checked yet and most of them have a far more pressing need than him and his family.
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,680
People abusing their positions to get a test. Surprised it took this long to come out. Gove wasn’t the first, I’m sure.
 
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henry the wasp

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,681
Brylowes said:
A “Friend’s of Group” for our local Hospital are on FB pleading for Decorating Overall,
can only assume they’re desperately short of what they would usually use.
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They will be after the type 5/6 tyvek coveralls. Just a paper style suit used for paint spraying cars or weed spraying.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,682
Grendel said:
I didn’t claim that but we can carry on
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Yes you did.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,683
Italy numbers

New positive cases 1363
Deaths 566
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,684
Tommo1993 said:
People abusing their positions to get a test. Surprised it took this long to come out. Gove wasn’t the first, I’m sure.
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no excuses he was perfectly capable of doing his job from home

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,685
Happy birthday @Astute
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,686
Grendel said:
The death con with Coronavirus is the same as other viruses so will be the same everywhere - it’s why flu deaths have massive ranges depending on what you read

Also lockdowns are going to always have issues as Italy are acknowledging - they are saying that many are flaunting the rules and now the Russian military is going to enforce it

Germany has not had a full lockdown but a very small amount of deaths
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@Grendel just to remind you.
 
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Astute

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,687
shmmeee said:
Looks like they’ll still be more locked down than us. Just some factory workers and other jobs going in, lockdown still in place generally.

Anyone got any data on how many people are still working in each country? I get the impression a fair few still are here but it’s hard to tell beyond anecdotes.
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My place will stay open whatever happens. The places that supply us are all over Europe. They are staying open. They will be counted as suppliers for those making hygiene products.

But I have mates that were informed they are key workers but are now not working. New rules are made that don't reach the news.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,688
SeaSeeEffCee said:
Corona in reverse

Sure you didn't.
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I was referring to an underclass of Chinese workers which is of course accurate
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,689
Sick Boy said:
Happy birthday @Astute
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Cheers SB. Just started my second night shift of my birthday. At least I have been able to go out for it

Have you got the good weather? And are you able to enjoy it in any way?
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,690
Sick Boy said:
@Grendel just to remind you.
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Didn’t I provide a link? I’m sure there is nothing to be worried about

Russian mercy mission to Italy is a front for intelligence gathering, British expert warns
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,691
Grendel said:
I was referring to an underclass of Chinese workers which is of course accurate
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You blamed the Tuscan community for the outbreak in Lombardia, it’s like blaming a community in Sheffield for an outbreak in London.
It’s a narrative that’s been pushed by the far-right.
 
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Astute

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,692
SeaSeeEffCee said:
it's truly an honour to be in the presence of such a master DEbater.
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Drop the DE bit and you then have a better description of G.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,693
Grendel said:
Didn’t I provide a link? I’m sure there is nothing to be worried about

Russian mercy mission to Italy is a front for intelligence gathering, British expert warns
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Yeah you provided a link which referenced them providing medical support and probably hadn’t bothered to read the article and jumped to a weird conclusion.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,694
Sick Boy said:
Yeah you provided a link which referenced them providing medical support and probably hadn’t bothered to read the article and jumped to a weird conclusion.
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He does not tend read articles he posts.

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #16,695
Astute said:
Cheers SB. Just started my second night shift of my birthday. At least I have been able to go out for it

Have you got the good weather? And are you able to enjoy it in any way?
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Yeah it slowly climbed up to just under 30c yesterday but back down to 25c today. We have a small terrace so have been able to enjoy it enough but of course it’s not the same.
From tomorrow they’ve actually removed a restriction in Veneto so we can finally go for a walk if we are alone and wearing a mask and gloves, better than nothing I suppose!!
I reckon by the end of June everything will be reopened again and I expect to be back in the office in a month’s time.
How are your family getting on in France?
 
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