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shmmeee

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,856
fernandopartridge said:
If I was a nurse I'd be livid, they've filled a lot of high level posts with nodding dogs. She's supposed to represent the profession not the government.
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She and the other advisors are just human shields. The cowards in government bat every tough question to them. It’s pretty disgusting to be honest.

Also, relevant to this thread:
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,857
PVA said:
not sure what ours was
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18 days later.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,858
clint van damme said:
No. They've ran this country for 10 years. They are my government. The one I pay taxes to.
They are the one I'll hold to account. I'll leave the accountability of other governments to their citizens.
And I'm sure if theres any analysis of the PPE issue done we will fair badly compared to other similar economies.. Though again, I'm really only concerned with our performance.
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I still don’t understand why it’s not possible to hold the following views:

1. I am glad that Boris Johnson is recovering
2. Boris Johnson and the U.K. government have done an abysmal job and their failings are continuing to cost lives on a daily basis
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,859
Ring Of Steel said:
I still don’t understand why it’s not possible to hold the following views:

1. I am glad that Boris Johnson is recovering
2. Boris Johnson and the U.K. government have done an abysmal job and their failings are continuing to cost lives on a daily basis
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It's entirely possible! It should be the view that everyone holds as both points are totally true.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,860
clint van damme said:
No. They've ran this country for 10 years. They are my government. The one I pay taxes to.
They are the one I'll hold to account. I'll leave the accountability of other governments to their citizens.
And I'm sure if theres any analysis of the PPE issue done we will fair badly compared to other similar economies.. Though again, I'm really only concerned with our performance.
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Its not really until this crisis that I truly realised how British exceptionalism is weaponised to prevent criticism of our government. Works a treat. Noticed it a bit before when normal social democratic policies from other countries are discussed, but really stark with this crisis.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,861
shmmeee said:
She and the other advisors are just human shields. The cowards in government bat every tough question to them. It’s pretty disgusting to be honest.

Also, relevant to this thread:
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Depends what you make political though. There are some very relevant things that are of course, and some things used as an excuse to make it political.
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,862
Also the idea that anyone who doesn’t rate Johnson wants him dead is stupid. The last thing I want politically is him becoming a martyr. Even if I lacked basic human empathy I wouldn’t want him dead.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,863
So how is lockdown and social distancing being observed over there on this holiday weekend, people being respectful and not heading off to the beach & stuff like that? Unfortunately not so good over here.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,864
Grendel said:
So the Tories run the whole world. Ok
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So the whole world prepares the U.K. for a pandemic. Ok
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,865
On a side note, they were advertising for support workers for the nhs nightingale hospital in London at 9.21 an hour.

They still see people as not being worth a decent wage
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,866
Here’s the Mirror’s take on it all

 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,867
shmmeee said:
She and the other advisors are just human shields. The cowards in government bat every tough question to them. It’s pretty disgusting to be honest.

Also, relevant to this thread:
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Where's the duty of candour?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,868
Ring Of Steel said:
You may be right, however I would argue that a lot of people are so used to him saying ridiculous and tasteless things that they are desensitised to it all, rather than them approving of it.
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It’s typical gallows humour massively over stated as being important
 

Astute

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,869
Ring Of Steel said:
So how is lockdown and social distancing being observed over there on this holiday weekend, people being respectful and not heading off to the beach & stuff like that? Unfortunately not so good over here.
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I've been out since early this morning. Not going back home for hours.

Working the whole bank holiday weekend. My birthday on Monday. A night shift either side of it. So get to go out twice on my birthday. Can't wait.
 
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Marty

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,870
PVA said:
And their propaganda is already working, I've seen quite a few mentions recently on social media of people blaming NHS management for not having enough PPE in place.
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It's a procurement issue is it not? I suggested last night we should bypass the yanks and produce it ourselves. If they won't release the products we need, they have left us no choice really.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,871
Ring Of Steel said:
So how is lockdown and social distancing being observed over there on this holiday weekend, people being respectful and not heading off to the beach & stuff like that? Unfortunately not so good over here.
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I'm not sure, I went out for a walk yesterday (along country lanes which are literally on my doorstep) it was quiet, more so than on the working days
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,872
Sick Boy said:
Actually thought you were joking, it really is a rag.
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Takes a while to sink in doesn’t it.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,873
Grendel said:
It’s typical gallows humour massively over stated as being important
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Oh the hypocrisy. So when I say Boris should take it on the chin that's not gallows humour? It's disgusting and crass and abhorrent and I'm a c**t?

Don't know why I'm even bothering to argue with you, what's the fucking point
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,874
fernandopartridge said:
If I was a nurse I'd be livid, they've filled a lot of high level posts with nodding dogs. She's supposed to represent the profession not the government.
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Should be a position that you’re voted into by your fellow nurses, surely. Any government, that’s any government could just appoint any nodding donkey if not.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,875
skybluetony176 said:
Should be a position that you’re voted into by your fellow nurses, surely. Any government, that’s any government could just appoint any nodding donkey if not.
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this probably comes down to the new approach Cummings and the right want to take- “no experts” etc

turns out though that when facing a lethal virus that can kill a thousand people per day and shut down the entire planet, some actual expertise might not have been a bad idea
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,876
David O'Day said:
On a side note, they were advertising for support workers for the nhs nightingale hospital in London at 9.21 an hour.

They still see people as not being worth a decent wage
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That’s not even the living wage in London is it?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,877
Grendel said:
It’s typical gallows humour massively over stated as being important
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Gallows humour? So you’re fine with people suggesting that they’d throw a party if Boris died? Gallows humour remember.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,878
skybluetony176 said:
That’s not even the living wage in London is it?
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nope and the same advert states that if you are furloughed you can work there for free

cunts
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,879
skybluetony176 said:
Gallows humour? So you’re fine with people suggesting that they’d throw a party if Boris died? Gallows humour remember.
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I would say that an example of the paucity of the ability to govern is seen in the way we started a gofundme campaign for Big Ben to ring on Brexit Day some time after the government had received a full briefing on COVID19’s imminent arrival and people had started dying. Brexit was genuinely more important to plan for. Zero common sense or leadership, and this government has spectacularly failed in its most basic duty- keeping its citizens alive.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,880
Ring Of Steel said:
How could you have herd immunity policy in any country where there is no vaccine?
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You said it could work in Sweden?
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,881
PVA said:
Oh the hypocrisy. So when I say Boris should take it on the chin that's not gallows humour? It's disgusting and crass and abhorrent and I'm a c**t?

Don't know why I'm even bothering to argue with you, what's the fucking point
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The take on the chit comment again - sigh
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,882
Grendel said:
The take on the chit comment again - sigh
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Gallows humour, have a good laugh about it.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,883
skybluetony176 said:
To be fair to the Mail their headlines do seem to be on point and related to the Coronavirus whereas the sun seems to have moved Dear Deidre to the front page. Even the Express have gone with a front page of Desperate nurses Easter plea. The Sun showing how substandard they are.
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It has a largely sub standard readership to be honest
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,884
Grendel said:
You said it could work in Sweden?
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If anyone could make it work they had a chance, yes, however it failed there too. To even contemplate it in a country like ours was a murderous folly, that’s clearly beyond any doubt now.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,885
Boris has got the games and movies out. Good job he’s not watching Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman or some on here would be having a breakdown

Coronavirus: Boris Johnson 'playing games and watching films' in hospital
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,886
I see the fictional TV show Holby City has donated it’s stock of ventilators to the nightingale hospital in London. Beggars belief.
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,887
Grendel said:
Boris has got the games and movies out. Good job he’s not watching Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman or some on here would be having a breakdown

Coronavirus: Boris Johnson 'playing games and watching films' in hospital
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As long as Dustin Hoffman was 2 meters away it would be ok. Knowing Boris though he'd be shaking hands the daft twat.
 
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Otis

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,888
Skybluefaz said:
As long as Dustin Hoffman was 2 meters away it would be ok. Knowing Boris though he'd be shaking hands the daft twat.
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Dustin Hoffman is two metres short if that helps in any way.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,889
Grendel said:
Boris has got the games and movies out. Good job he’s not watching Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman or some on here would be having a breakdown

Coronavirus: Boris Johnson 'playing games and watching films' in hospital
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Luckily for him you only need to count up to nine to play sudoku. I don’t think he’s allowed to watch either Outbreak or Contagion in case he thinks they’re documentaries.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,890
skybluetony176 said:
I see the fictional TV show Holby City has donated it’s stock of ventilators to the nightingale hospital in London. Beggars belief.
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Ah so that's what Hancock meant by ramping up supplies
 
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