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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,821
Ring Of Steel said:
it’s fairly obvious that the plan is to deflect away from any questioning around the handling of the crisis. Their reporters must have taken a gander at this board and been inspired.

with any luck the Sun will go under, however that then puts The Daily Mail out on its own as the biggest paper in the country
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To be fair to the Mail their headlines do seem to be on point and related to the Coronavirus whereas the sun seems to have moved Dear Deidre to the front page. Even the Express have gone with a front page of Desperate nurses Easter plea. The Sun showing how substandard they are.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,822
Grendel said:
They are dying in every country. The WHO believes the world is only at 60% required levels. As someone on here said all businesses operate on JIT supply metric these days and that probably has to be looked at
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It has to be. The whole world knew about this January. It is scandal.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,823
PVA said:
Take a look at the front pages of The Guardian and The Sun in the link above.

One talks about the tragic loss of life and one talks about Carrie sending letters to Boris.

I can't believe you're actually defending The Sun, on anything. Actually yes I can believe it.
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Im not defending the sun again you are fabricating - you’d actually make a good journalist for the sun

“SBT poster wants thousands of pensioners to die” and no evidence
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,824
Grendel said:
Im not defending the sun again you are fabricating - you’d actually make a good journalist for the sun

“SBT poster wants thousands of pensioners to die” and no evidence
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Oh wow the irony of this.

You have accused me of wanting people to die, you've accused me of wanting Johnson to die, you have called me every name under the sun because you fabricated something in your mind about me wanting Johnson dead, you did some weird little twitter game to try and fabricate a point.

I really do suggest you take some time off the Internet for a bit.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,825
Otis said:
It has to be. The whole world knew about this January. It is scandal.
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When you have the PM (and his dad bizarrely) poo-pooing COVID19 as a matter of importance on national TV while other countries were already counting corpses and starting to lock down, I would venture that supply chain readiness is not the root cause of the problem.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,826
Otis said:
It has to be. The whole world knew about this January. It is scandal.
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To be fair we knew a pandemic could come at any time so why did we not have a proper stockpile of ppe
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,827
Grendel said:
They are dying in every country. The WHO believes the world is only at 60% required levels. As someone on here said all businesses operate on JIT supply metric these days and that probably has to be looked at
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We don’t live in every country, our government doesn’t represent the population of every country.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,828
PVA said:
Oh wow the irony of this.

You have accused me of wanting people to die, you've accused me of wanting Johnson to die, you have called me every name under the sun because you fabricated something in your mind about me wanting Johnson dead, you did some weird little twitter game to try and fabricate a point.

I really do suggest you take some time off the Internet for a bit.
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I think this forum is a goldmine for Sun journalists, all they have to do is follow Coventrian and there’s a week’s worth of taglines right there.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,829
David O'Day said:
To be fair we knew a pandemic could come at any time so why did we not have a proper stockpile of ppe
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You would have thunk wouldn't you.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,830
The 'you're happy that people are dying?' argument is emotive and ridiculous from any perspective. It really should stop.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,831
PVA said:
Take a look at the front pages of The Guardian and The Sun in the link above.

One talks about the tragic loss of life and one talks about Carrie sending letters to Boris.

I can't believe you're actually defending The Sun, on anything. Actually yes I can believe it.
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I can. He’s a grade A moron.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,832
David O'Day said:
To be fair we knew a pandemic could come at any time so why did we not have a proper stockpile of ppe
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It’s not “could” come, we knew it “was” coming. But know what you mean.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,833
PVA said:
Oh wow the irony of this.

You have accused me of wanting people to die, you've accused me of wanting Johnson to die, you have called me every name under the sun because you fabricated something in your mind about me wanting Johnson dead, you did some weird little twitter game to try and fabricate a point.

I really do suggest you take some time off the Internet for a bit.
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You have comprehension difficulties unfortunately and again we are back to square one. Several others commented on your unhealthy zeal regarding the prime ministers illness and expressed disgust at your crass comments

One asked for evidence to support your accusation regarding me - something you could not supply.

You keep banging on about taking time off the internet yet many agreed with me - should we all take time off as we can all see through it?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,834
Ring Of Steel said:
When you have the PM (and his dad bizarrely) poo-pooing COVID19 as a matter of importance on national TV while other countries were already counting corpses and starting to lock down, I would venture that supply chain readiness is not the root cause of the problem.
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I read something earlier about Greece's response.

They closed non essential shops and services 4 days after the first death (Italy was 18 days and Spain was 30 days, not sure what ours was) and they have done a very good job of keeping it under control with only 8 deaths per million people, compared with about 300 for Italy and Spain.

Obviously there are demographical and geographical reasons that will have made it easier for them, but they've showed the way to do it.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,835
Grendel said:
You have comprehension difficulties unfortunately and again we are back to square one. Several others commented on your unhealthy zeal regarding the prime ministers illness and expressed disgust at your crass comments

One asked for evidence to support your accusation regarding me - something you could not supply.

You keep banging on about taking time off the internet yet many agreed with me - should we all take time off as we can all see through it?
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You cannot call anyone crass when you have said you found Operation Last Gasp so funny.

People dying because there aren't enough ventilators is hilarious isn't it? But I'm crass and disgusting for suggesting one man should follow his own advice? Classic.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,836
Is it tom or grenners making a fool of themselves?
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,837
PVA said:
I read something earlier about Greece's response.

They closed non essential shops and services 4 days after the first death (Italy was 18 days and Spain was 30 days, not sure what ours was) and they have done a very good job of keeping it under control with only 8 deaths per million people, compared with about 300 for Italy and Spain.

Obviously there are demographical and geographical reasons that will have made it easier for them, but they've showed the way to do it.
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New Zealand- pretty much ridiculed herd immunity as a dangerous crackpot idea, did the right thing on day one and they have 1 death. Or at least they did last time I saw.

It’s leadership and critical decision making that saves lives, added to the particular circumstances around the county itself- island, small population etc
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,838
PVA said:
You cannot call anyone crass when you have said you found Operation Last Gasp so funny.

People dying because there aren't enough ventilators is hilarious isn't it? But I'm crass and disgusting for suggesting one man should follow his own advice? Classic.
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Again though other people who are politically aligned to you also had no issue with it and saw it for what it was (it didn’t happen anyway) - you seem to have no concept of what happens in the real world
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,839
Ring Of Steel said:
New Zealand- pretty much ridiculed herd immunity as a dangerous crackpot idea, did the right thing on day one and they have 1 death. Or at least they did last time I saw.
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How would you actually have a herd immunity policy in New Zealand. Countries like New Zealand cannot be compared to huge western countries with free cross border access
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,840
Grendel said:
They are dying in every country. The WHO believes the world is only at 60% required levels. As someone on here said all businesses operate on JIT supply metric these days and that probably has to be looked at
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They were warned. The warnings started under Blair.
No one has decided to do anything about it. But as I said the other day, if it happens on your (10 year) watch, you have to own it.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,841
Grendel said:
Again though other people who are politically aligned to you also had no issue with it and saw it for what it was (it didn’t happen anyway) - you seem to have no concept of what happens in the real world
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You may be right, however I would argue that a lot of people are so used to him saying ridiculous and tasteless things that they are desensitised to it all, rather than them approving of it.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,842
clint van damme said:
They were warned. The warnings started under Blair.
No one has decided to do anything about it. But as I said the other day, if it happens on your (10 year) watch, you have to own it.
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So the Tories run the whole world. Ok
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,843
Grendel said:
How would you actually have a herd immunity policy in New Zealand. Countries like New Zealand cannot be compared to huge western countries with free cross border access
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How could you have herd immunity policy in any country where there is no vaccine?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,844
David O'Day said:
Hancock was shite again.

The chief nursing officer was embarrassing

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
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If I was a nurse I'd be livid, they've filled a lot of high level posts with nodding dogs. She's supposed to represent the profession not the government.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,845
Deleted member 5849 said:
The 'you're happy that people are dying?' argument is emotive and ridiculous from any perspective. It really should stop.
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It's fucking crass.
You didn't clap Boris, you want him to die.
You clapped Boris, you don't care about the other 1000 people.

It's fucking pathetic.
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,846
Grendel said:
No following and followers is what happens on there - it’s a term
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You seem to do a lot and know a lot about something you say you know nothing about. But there again that was when you were trying to make out you don't do Twatter.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,847
David O'Day said:
Is it tom or grenners making a fool of themselves?
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I dunno but it’s too early for all this, I’m only on my second can
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,848
skybluetony176 said:
They’ve gone with the headline “get well soon babe” this morning so don’t hold your breath.
Vaccine key to UK exit strategy and 'the lives cut short'
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Actually thought you were joking, it really is a rag.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,849
clint van damme said:
It's fucking crass.
You didn't clap Boris, you want him to die.
You clapped Boris, you don't care about the other 1000 people.

It's fucking pathetic.
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Exactly as I said before- politics is now religion, the country is fucked up.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,850
fernandopartridge said:
If I was a nurse I'd be livid, they've filled a lot of high level posts with nodding dogs. She's supposed to represent the profession not the government.
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The chief nurse at the rcn seems to be a better spokesperson
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,851
Grendel said:
Again though other people who are politically aligned to you also had no issue with it and saw it for what it was (it didn’t happen anyway) - you seem to have no concept of what happens in the real world
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Where is your proof it didn't happen? Johnson did not deny it so I'd say there's a good chance it happened.

I don't expect you to change your mind, I know you have your head so firmly up Johnson's arse you can taste what he had for breakfast.

I saw on twitter that when someone mentioned Johnson voted against a pay rise for NHS staff you simply replied 'fuck off'

So blinded by your subservience to a disgraced journalist just because he has a plummy accent that you dismiss any criticism of him as either untrue or fake, or if it's a bit mean then it's considered crass. All the while you're happy for the NHS to be underfunded, nurses and doctors to go without PPE, and for people to die because of the government's appalling response, all because of your fondness for your precious overlord.

/rant
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,852
SIR ERNIE said:
Agreed. He’s an embarrassment and utterly unqualified for a role of this importance. The classic, arrogant career politician stuck in campaign mode where he believes it’s ok the make promises and spout platitudes in the belief that he’ll muddle through and never be held to account. If, correction when the 100k tests target is not reached in a couple of weeks Boris must kick him out.
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The whole party is on easy election mode, they've been at it for years.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,853
David O'Day said:
The chief nurse at the rcn seems to be a better spokesperson
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Appointed independently you see
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,854
Grendel said:
So the Tories run the whole world. Ok
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No. They've ran this country for 10 years. They are my government. The one I pay taxes to.
They are the one I'll hold to account. I'll leave the accountability of other governments to their citizens.
And I'm sure if theres any analysis of the PPE issue done we will fair badly compared to other similar economies.. Though again, I'm really only concerned with our performance.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 11, 2020
  • #15,855
fernandopartridge said:
The whole party is on easy election mode, they've been at it for years.
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It's what you get when politics is just about glib 3 part sentences
 
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