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skybluetony176 · Apr 6, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
oh fuck that’s right- I was “Martin from Germany” wasn’t I

Amongst others

SkyBlueCharlie9 · Apr 6, 2020

Grendel said:
Some utter cunts in here need to start apologising

I have never heard the Conservatives apologise for the state of british hospitals. For instance just 2 years ago my dad's final few hours were spent in a corridor, so I have a right to criticise Boris and conservatives laisse-faire attitude to this crisis and the NHS generally over last decade. No-one wants Boris to pass away but this situation is a leveller for us all. Most rational left leaning people want the extreme right wing finance driven toffs (eg. JRM) to show more compassion for the working classes. Maybe this is a wake-up call and we all need to realise we are in this together and for a successful country we need to work together better and support each other when we get through this.

fernandopartridge · Apr 6, 2020

shmmeee said:
Johnson in intensive care is mental, hope it’s just precautionary. Still can’t help but feel it’d be a last resort if they could avoid it. Here’s hoping he recovers quickly if for no other reason than Raab is in charge until then.

Yeah, I saw that idiot Peston saying it was only precautionary, being in hospital is the precaution, intensive care is what it is.

Sick Boy · Apr 6, 2020

shmmeee said:
Johnson in intensive care is mental, hope it’s just precautionary. Still can’t help but feel it’d be a last resort if they could avoid it. Here’s hoping he recovers quickly if for no other reason than Raab is in charge until then.

Don’t think you go into intensive care as a precaution, sadly.

SkyBlueCharlie9 · Apr 6, 2020

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Doing the best he can in the hardest role anybody could imagine right now, get well soon our great PM! We’re all praying you recover!

Praying? Didn't have you down as the religious type. Turn it in mate.

itsabuzzard · Apr 6, 2020

David O'Day said:
Even virtue signalling nobs are less than truthful

Knobs please.

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Flying Fokker · Apr 6, 2020

skyblue1991 said:
Just watched the BBC video from an ICU.

That hit me harder more than I thought it would.

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It was the most surreal, horrible bit of live tv I’ve seen. Followed by the US version of it. The amount of professional people in intensive care was mind blowing and the dedication of everyone also.

David O'Day · Apr 6, 2020

itsabuzzard said:
Knobs please.

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You were saying that in your sleep.

itsabuzzard · Apr 6, 2020

David O'Day said:
You were saying that in your sleep.

Always best to ask politely.

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chiefdave · Apr 6, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
Yeah, I saw that idiot Peston saying it was only precautionary, being in hospital is the precaution, intensive care is what it is.

Kuenssberg also reporting it is precautionary.

And he has been moved to intensive care as a precaution in case he needs ventilation to get through this illness.

covcity4life · Apr 6, 2020

Get well soom boris

Get well soon everyone!

Flying Fokker · Apr 6, 2020

Otis said:
Unfortunately, I'm me. Same in both worlds.

fernandopartridge said:
Yeah, I saw that idiot Peston saying it was only precautionary, being in hospital is the precaution, intensive care is what it is.

then there was the doctor on the One Show tonight. He said things were possibly being done as a precaution as well.

Johhny Blue · Apr 6, 2020

TomRad85 said:
Ever wonder if everyone on this forum would get on better or worse in person?

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I'd share a pint with anyone on here no matter how stupid they come across. We're all City fans.

fernandopartridge · Apr 6, 2020

Flying Fokker said:
It was the most surreal, horrible bit of live tv I’ve seen recently. Followed by the US version of it. The amount of professional people in intensive care was mind blowing and the dedication of everyone also..

They are not nice places at all, the staff are unbelievable, must have incredible mental strength or just become numb to it.

Flying Fokker · Apr 6, 2020

Flying Fokker said:
It was the most surreal, horrible bit of live tv I’ve seen. Followed by the US version of it. The amount of professional people in intensive care was mind blowing and the dedication of everyone also.

Before anyone says anything. The Singing Ringing Tree Also has an impact on my earlier years.....

fernandopartridge · Apr 6, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
I'd share a pint with anyone on here no matter how stupid they come across. We're all City fans.

I'd rather have my own pint than share you tight fucker

skybluesam66 · Apr 6, 2020

chiefdave said:
Kuenssberg also reporting it is precautionary.And he has been moved to intensive care as a precaution in case he needs ventilation to get through this illness.

also read, that if you go to ventilation, then your chances are very low

Johhny Blue · Apr 6, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
I'd rather have my own pint than share you tight fucker

I didn't want to use "Enjoy"

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Apr 6, 2020

chiefdave said:
Kuenssberg also reporting it is precautionary.

ICU is what it says - intensive care. Not somewhere you tend to go as a precaution, and esp given the pressure on ICU's at the moment. Being PM I imagine he will be getting exceptionally good treatment but they wouldn't put him in an ICU bed unless it was necessary I don't think.

I was sceptical about whether he was using it to avoid scrutiny but I admit it looks like I was wrong.

Hope he makes a full and speedy recovery.

fernandopartridge · Apr 6, 2020

chiefdave said:
Kuenssberg also reporting it is precautionary.

I don't buy it, you're talking about the most heavily impacted place in the country and they've got spare capacity in the ICU just in case somebody needs a ventilator, doesn't make any sense.

Anyway, hopefully he pulls through. I don't believe him to be a sociopath Tory like IDS, Raab, Patel et al.

Otis · Apr 6, 2020

skybluesam66 said:
also read, that if you go to ventilation, then your chances are very low

I heard 50/50, but I may be wrong.

Ring Of Steel · Apr 6, 2020

skybluesam66 said:
also read, that if you go to ventilation, then your chances are very low

There is too much info to really know, it looks like about 50:50 if you are unfortunate enough to go onto a ventilator but his age is in his favour so hopefully he’ll be ok.

Ring Of Steel · Apr 6, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
I didn't want to use "Enjoy"

The pub is the one thing I probably miss the most. Pub before a match in fact.

hill83 · Apr 6, 2020

Otis said:
I heard 50/50, but I may be wrong.

Is that not considered low?

Flying Fokker · Apr 6, 2020

Otis said:
I heard 50/50, but I may be wrong.

On a sample. Ref ventilators. Probably where the figures are from.

2249 admitted to ICU
346 Died. Approx 15%
344 Discharged. Approx 15%. ( my guess is they went back to the ward.).
1559 reported as still in Critical care. 70 % not on ventilators.

David O'Day · Apr 6, 2020

hill83 said:
Is that not considered low?

That study was on a tiny amount of data though

David O'Day · Apr 6, 2020

Flying Fokker said:
On a sample. Probably where the figures are from.

2249 admitted to ICU
346 Died
344 Discharged
1559 reported as still in Critical care.

The figures are from a 165 person sample

Ring Of Steel · Apr 6, 2020

Otis said:
I heard 50/50, but I may be wrong.

I don’t understand a lot of this but I think this is the hospital he’s in, and they are getting ‘good outcomes’ from their ICU process which is what Boris will be going through now

David O'Day · Apr 6, 2020

Trump was spectacularly unhinged today, claims he's personally speaking to the doctors treating boris

Ring Of Steel · Apr 6, 2020

David O'Day said:
Trump was spectacularly unhinged today, claims he's personally speaking to the doctors treating boris

His twitter account is one of the most disturbing yet entertaining accounts of all

Otis · Apr 6, 2020

David O'Day said:
Trump was spectacularly unhinged today, claims he's personally speaking to the doctors treating boris

Always says they were related.

fernandopartridge · Apr 6, 2020

David O'Day said:
Trump was spectacularly unhinged today, claims he's personally speaking to the doctors treating boris

He's sent two great companies over, but they don't like to talk about it

Flying Fokker · Apr 6, 2020

David O'Day said:
The figures are from a 165 person sample

So we agree. Sort of? The figures I show are from a sample of 2249. Approx 15%/15/%70%

fernandopartridge · Apr 6, 2020

Ring Of Steel said:
I don’t understand a lot of this but I think this is the hospital he’s in, and they are getting ‘good outcomes’ from their ICU process which is what Boris will be going through now

I understand bits of it from recent experience, they're looking at blood oxygen and carbon dioxide levels basically

He's in one of the six ECMO centres in England as well (probably just a coincidence of location rather than necessarily a clinical need), that's where a machine takes over the function of the lung all together.

fernandopartridge · Apr 6, 2020

This is interesting, you get a lot of frothing about the government at national level turning away from Europe which may be true for the sake of playing silly political games, but this is a tweet from a consultant at Guys and St Thomas'

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