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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,691
wingy said:
Am I getting it right that there is a small outbreak in Wuhan again and it's reverted to strict lockdown?
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Its just to prepare for when restrictions are lifted on the 8th, Coronavirus: Wuhan residents told to stay inside and be vigilant
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,692
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Didn't we buy over a million for them now not to work? What a complete fucking shambles
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Has been from the start
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,693
Grendel said:
The data going in is shite

Shite in equals shite out
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Is that your angle now the government, News night and various others have moved to log graphs because of the numbers?


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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,694
wingy said:
Am I getting it right that there is a small outbreak in Wuhan again and it's reverted to strict lockdown?
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Japan has a smaller but developing problem as well
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,695
Not sure my company has really understood how furlough is supposed to work. Today is suppsoed to be my last day but apparently I should keep checking emails, attending team meetings, updating documentation, doing training etc. The only thing I can't do is contact our customers.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,696
shmmeee said:
Read the title. It’s a 7 day rolling average to smooth out noise.
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Steady on you’ll be asking him to interpret the scale next.


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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,697
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Its just to prepare for when restrictions are lifted on the 8th, Coronavirus: Wuhan residents told to stay inside and be vigilant
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I think most countries expect a spike after lock down restrictions are lifted and to have to potentially reimpose restrictions for a short period.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,698
djr8369 said:
Is that your angle now the government, News night and various others have moved to log graphs because of the numbers?

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log scale was always right, the smarter amongst us knew that.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,699
chiefdave said:
Not sure my company has really understood how furlough is supposed to work. Today is suppsoed to be my last day but apparently I should keep checking emails, attending team meetings, updating documentation, doing training etc. The only thing I can't do is contact our customers.
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your company will have a very serious problem if that’s their official advice, whatever money they get will have to be handed back in its entirety if all furloughed workers are working. I’d raise the flag to them pretty quickly
 
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Peter Billing Eyes

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,700
chiefdave said:
Not sure my company has really understood how furlough is supposed to work. Today is suppsoed to be my last day but apparently I should keep checking emails, attending team meetings, updating documentation, doing training etc. The only thing I can't do is contact our customers.
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This is wrong, furlough is essentially compensation from the government to prevent you from taking on duties. Essentially, your company should not be ‘profiteering’ from a scheme that is being underwritten by someone else.
 
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SkyBlueCRJ

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,701
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Its just to prepare for when restrictions are lifted on the 8th, Coronavirus: Wuhan residents told to stay inside and be vigilant
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Yeah as with all countries they need to be careful when they lift the lockdown because realistically people will flock to each other like bees to honey.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,702
SkyBlueCRJ said:
Yeah as with all countries they need to be careful when they lift the lockdown because realistically people will flock to each other like bees to honey.
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They’ve been speaking about that here and how the restrictions will be lifted gradually over a period of 1.5 months approx- I think the current aim is to get everything back to some kind of normality by early June.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,703
Ring Of Steel said:
your company will have a very serious problem if that’s their official advice, whatever money they get will have to be handed back in its entirety if all furloughed workers are working. I’d raise the flag to them pretty quickly
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Yeah. When I was furloughed HR mailed me and made it clear I cannot partake in any work for the company at any plant.
Was supposed to be working on something with another plant in about 10 days time. They've told me I can't do that now and can't even get involved in any conference calls.
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,704
chiefdave said:
Not sure my company has really understood how furlough is supposed to work. Today is suppsoed to be my last day but apparently I should keep checking emails, attending team meetings, updating documentation, doing training etc. The only thing I can't do is contact our customers.
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Definitely one of the conditions is that you perform no work but I doubt there will be any checking up so I’m sure they’ll get away with it!


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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,705
Sick Boy said:
They’ve been speaking about that here and how the restrictions will be lifted gradually over a period of 1.5 months approx- I think the current aim is to get everything back to some kind of normality by early June.
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Fair play mate, how many tests are Italy doing/were doing in comparison to the UK?
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,706
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Didn't we buy over a million for them now not to work? What a complete fucking shambles
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What’s this Dom ???
 
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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,707
chiefdave said:
Not sure my company has really understood how furlough is supposed to work. Today is suppsoed to be my last day but apparently I should keep checking emails, attending team meetings, updating documentation, doing training etc. The only thing I can't do is contact our customers.
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Isn’t that working from home!
 

Spurs 'City Away Kit' Kit

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,708
CCFCSteve said:
It’s a massive rod for his own back. I’d have just said 50k if it was me !
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Remember, Matt Hancock is the MP for West Suffolk (which covers Newmarket) and during the election campaign he was going to push for improvements to the A&E department at Newmarket hospital - there isn't an A&E department at Newmarket hospital and also increase the number of police at the police station there. The police station in Newmarket closed 2 years ago.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,709
Again, the thread move so fast. if this is a repost, I apologise.

 
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MalcSB

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,710
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Didn't we buy over a million for them now not to work? What a complete fucking shambles
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Weren’t they ordered, which could be cancelled. There is an element here of damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,711
MalcSB said:
Weren’t they ordered, which could be cancelled. There is an element here of damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
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Caught a bit of the bloke saying yesterday that he wont sort tests until he knows they fully work as the one they tested got 3 out of 4 wrong so would have been dangerous.

People are shouting they want tests here and now but then shouting that they don't work.

It is quite funny when you have no political bias watching it.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,712
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Fair play mate, how many tests are Italy doing/were doing in comparison to the UK?
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Not sure of the numbers but it is definitely more, my girlfriend is a midwife and she has been tested twice over the last few weeks.
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,713
wingy said:
Am I getting it right that there is a small outbreak in Wuhan again and it's reverted to strict lockdown?
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Watched it again on France 24 .
Definitely saying dozens of New cases and return to previous restrictions.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,714
shmmeee said:
The numbers aren’t incorrect.
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Yes they are as all countries have different ways of measuring who has died. Also France yesterday added over 800 deaths and there is no way of knowing when they actually occurred
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,715
Definitely not looking good. Whole comment thread on Twitter is worth a read.

 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,716
Philosorapter said:
Definitely not looking good. Whole thread is worth a read.

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It was bad enough having him in charge of Brexit, this is a whole different level now.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,717
djr8369 said:
Is that your angle now the government, News night and various others have moved to log graphs because of the numbers?


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No it’s my angle based off the FT article which I posted last night which shows many more have died in some countries and the fact a France government official confirmed they can’t accurately measure deaths away from the hospital

This is not the same graph he originally created is it?
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,718
Philosorapter said:
Again, the thread move so fast. if this is a repost, I apologise.

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They didn’t refuse to join the EU some administrator fucked it up which is poor tbf


I posted this to a mate and this was his reply
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,719
Nick said:
Caught a bit of the bloke saying yesterday that he wont sort tests until he knows they fully work as the one they tested got 3 out of 4 wrong so would have been dangerous.

People are shouting they want tests here and now but then shouting that they don't work.

It is quite funny when you have no political bias watching it.
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I don't have political bias, I hate them all- far as I'm concerned if you're in charge the buck stops with you, and if you fuck up you're the ones accountable. I hate the "labour would have done this" stuff as I don't even know who is in Labour these days, and its irrelevant.

Would be like if Mark Robins took us back to League two losing every game and people were saying "yeah but its Andy Thorn's fault", "Mowbray would have been even worse"- meaningless, they are in charge so they need to be held fucking accountable.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,720
Grendel said:
No it’s my angle based off the FT article which I posted last night which shows many more have died in some countries and the fact a France government official confirmed they can’t accurately measure deaths away from the hospital

This is not the same graph he originally created is it?
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He issues a range of graphs every day covering a variety of areas, there are a lot of variables. The original graph is up there in its glory every day- log scale was always the best way and still is.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,721
Nick said:
Caught a bit of the bloke saying yesterday that he wont sort tests until he knows they fully work as the one they tested got 3 out of 4 wrong so would have been dangerous.

People are shouting they want tests here and now but then shouting that they don't work.

It is quite funny when you have no political bias watching it.
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From his interview this morning we're ordering a million from China .
He's been chatting shit and contradicting himself for a month now , that deserves to be called out.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,722
chiefdave said:
Hopefully when this is all over one of the things that will come out of it is a look at how employees are treated and how one sided things can be.

I know you changed to a fixed term position but the number of people who aren't considered permanent employess and have been left to sort themselves out in this mess should be a bit of a wake up call. You've got huge industries where it seems technically nobody is actually employed!
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Agree, it used to be called trade unions, watered down for years not just the Tory years either, as have workers rights especially in the last ten years and about to be eroded further now we are out of the EU.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,723
cc84cov said:
They didn’t refuse to join the EU some administrator fucked it up which is poor tbf


I posted this to a mate and this was his reply
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Our government attended 4 meetings which were minuted, all discussing the equipment procurement scheme.

We then declined it on the basis that we are now an "independent country", then when it came to light they pretended they'd missed an email, and we had to go cap in hand to see if we could take part after all. Then we started talking about ordering 10,000 from Dyson- which turned out to be false and we actually had 30 show up.

Here you go. And we are fed the "communication confusion" line. Would be laughable if we didn't have thousands of people in hospital dying.

UK discussed joint EU plan to buy Covid-19 medical supplies, say officials

But I'm sure its just left wing hyperbole and scaremongering.
 
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Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,724
cc84cov said:
They didn’t refuse to join the EU some administrator fucked it up which is poor tbf


I posted this to a mate and this was his reply
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He ignored you?
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2020
  • #11,725
Ring Of Steel said:
He ignored you?
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He hasn’t read it yet it’s a group chat I’ll let you know
 
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