skybluesam66
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incorrect - some private firms operate it, and the trusts choose whether to opt in. Some do and some dont - even then there are several of these firms
incorrect - some private firms operate it, and the trusts choose whether to opt in. Some do and some dont - even then there are several of these firmsA centralised procurement process and organisation was set up a few years ago which all Trusts pay for.
Has been for 2-3 weeks mate
What’s the point in quarantining when we already have high numbers here (especially if they’re coming from lower confirmed case country) ? Everyone should self isolate with symptoms anyway and social distance if outside without symptoms
Makes absolutely no difference whether type 1 or type 2 in terms of vulnerability. It's just part of the general misunderstanding of type 2.
"Whats the point in quarantining when we already have high numbers here"
Is that a serious question?
It actually wouldn't surprise me if there was a war against China after all this is done. It would literally be the world against Wuhan!
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But I thought the government said there is no problem with PPE & ventilators and that testing is being ramped up, is that not quite true?
Looking likely that no funds will be paid until at least the end of May but probably June or even later, and the info thats needed is highly onerous but also some is highly subjective raising big concerns about how they will actually decide who can claim. Firms are still being told that it will be better to lay off than take the risk of applying- too much vagueness and grey areas. Its a mess basically.
Yes. We already probably have hundreds of thousands of cases here, we have measures which mean people shouldn’t be leaving their house anyway and if they have symptoms they should be self isolating for at least 7 days. So what’s the point in setting up big quarantining facilities for the hundreds of thousands returning to the country ?
I’ve spoken to four companies directly that are all furloughing staff, each to their own though.
Nobody’s said there aren’t issues with the other stuff. Ventilators are due to be delivered next week and by all accounts we haven’t breached capacity (yet) - I think we will in certain locations as I understand we do with seasonal flu at times, but hopefully the new ventilators and breathing aids will minimise this.
Testing for nhs staff are PPE are both things that need sorting asap.
Hundreds of thousands you say? Last thing I heard from your side of things it was just cargo and people being repatriated
Spain had another awful day by the looks of it
There are apparently hundreds of thousands of UK citizens that might have to be repatriated (as per gov briefing earlier in the week).
Is that for furlough or the loan scheme? The loan scheme does seem a bit of a shambles as its being left to the banks to asses if companies are eligible and it will come as no surprise they are trying to divert people on to loans they will make money from.This furlough scheme is another shambles- 6 mths cashflow statetements, statement of personal assets, mgt accounts, no portal up and running, no word on who qualifies
Sounds like the new Call Of Duty game.World War Wuhan? I think we've already done that one
Your excuses and deflection for things that the whole country and rest of world can see as glaring problems is not a good look. We've been hearing that things are "about" to be delivered every day- they aren't and they are bullshitting every day about it. But at least you concede after all this time that testing & PPE have been badly managed. Not the time to be playing politics- deal in fact, take the party out of it.
Is that for furlough or the loan scheme? The loan scheme does seem a bit of a shambles as its being left to the banks to asses if companies are eligible and it will come as no surprise they are trying to divert people on to loans they will make money from.
Starting to see some of our clients furloughing people and IMO the scheme is not being used as intended if what I'm seeing is common. Looks like smaller companies are doing their best to keep going with everyone working from home. Its the bigger companies that seem to be making use of furlough however I'm seeing companies whose work hasn't been impacted furloughing the majority of their non-fee earners while piling the work of those they've furloughed onto others. For me companies that can afford to pay tens of millions in dividends to the owners annually shouldn't really be using this as an excuse to save money, at the expense of their lowest paid workers, while increasing the workload for those who remain employed.
Also seems employment law has gone out of the window. Seeing lots of clients making changes to pay and conditions with no consultation. Obviously we're in exceptional circumstances but doesn't the law still apply? I have a suspicion many of these changes will remain in place long after things get back to normal.
Concerning, it doesn't look like the lockdown is working at all there..... at least with Italy it seems to have peaked on the 26th with daily cases and has fallen since then, also with the deaths peaking on the 27th and since flattening down... (Although the last 2 days have gone up slowly)From what I saw Spain will overtake Italy relatively soon as the most affected by this bastard fucking virus.
Is that for furlough or the loan scheme? The loan scheme does seem a bit of a shambles as its being left to the banks to asses if companies are eligible and it will come as no surprise they are trying to divert people on to loans they will make money from.
Starting to see some of our clients furloughing people and IMO the scheme is not being used as intended if what I'm seeing is common. Looks like smaller companies are doing their best to keep going with everyone working from home. Its the bigger companies that seem to be making use of furlough however I'm seeing companies whose work hasn't been impacted furloughing the majority of their non-fee earners while piling the work of those they've furloughed onto others. For me companies that can afford to pay tens of millions in dividends to the owners annually shouldn't really be using this as an excuse to save money, at the expense of their lowest paid workers, while increasing the workload for those who remain employed.
Also seems employment law has gone out of the window. Seeing lots of clients making changes to pay and conditions with no consultation. Obviously we're in exceptional circumstances but doesn't the law still apply? I have a suspicion many of these changes will remain in place long after things get back to normal.
Was this the same government briefing that said we had more ventilators than we actually do, or the one which lied about test numbers?
Concerning, it doesn't look like the lockdown is working at all there..... at least with Italy it seems to have peaked on the 26th with daily cases and has fallen since then, also with the deaths peaking on the 27th and since flattening down... (Although the last 2 days have gone up slowly)
Italy Coronavirus: 105,792 Cases and 12,428 Deaths - Worldometer
Yeah everybody wants it and infrastructure now they are working from homeI work in IT. We've just had our busiest month ever by a long way, roughly 30% up on our previous busiest month.
Isn't it a few days? This next week will be crucial in terms of numbers for Spain and Italy relating to if the lock down has workedHow far were Spain behind Italy?
Isn't it a few days? This next week will be crucial in terms of numbers for Spain and Italy relating to if the lock down has worked
Haven't seen that graph before, that deffo gives hope that Italy has turned the corner... interesting to see if France and Germany follow on a similar pathYou can already see it in Italy. The uneducated on here hate this graph, but its the best piece of info out there to show things properly- look at Italy. If we want to see whether lockdown is working we have to look at new cases.
Concerning, it doesn't look like the lockdown is working at all there..... at least with Italy it seems to have peaked on the 26th with daily cases and has fallen since then, also with the deaths peaking on the 27th and since flattening down... (Although the last 2 days have gone up slowly)
Italy Coronavirus: 105,792 Cases and 12,428 Deaths - Worldometer
So you are saying Trusts haven’t been topsliced to fund this? I agree that some Trusts don’t use the process which was being monitored (and a really helpful league table produced). Some Truts were able to source cheaper than the National process, which itself begs a question. Process set up as a response to Lord Carter of Coles.incorrect - some private firms operate it, and the trusts choose whether to opt in. Some do and some dont - even then there are several of these firms
I’m self isolating. 7 days minimum. I work with vulnerable people and have been cautious in washing and using gel etc. Can do computer stuff from home.
I think they are mild symptoms at the moment. Not even sure it is the c word and a bit skeptical.
symptoms.
Occasional cough initially. increasing frequency hacking and dry.
No high temp. Yet
Neck and shoulder muscle aches.
Headache,
Some lethargy.
Contacted nhs online 111. Can get a certificate but work does not require it.
I’m self isolating. 7 days minimum. I work with vulnerable people and have been cautious in washing and using gel etc. Can do computer stuff from home.
I think they are mild symptoms at the moment. Not even sure it is the c word and a bit skeptical.
symptoms.
Occasional cough initially. increasing frequency hacking and dry.
No high temp. Yet
Neck and shoulder muscle aches.
Headache,
Some lethargy.
Contacted nhs online 111. Can get a certificate but work does not require it.
More fool us for not interrogating the information.The caveat to that is if it does turn out China has been misleading the world over its fatalities then there will be a limited backlash.
Many countries based their strategies on data China provided - if that data was falsified then some countries will find it hard to convince people to trade with China in the short-term.
Portal was never going to be up and running (they said on announcement that it would be end April - that’s probably unrealistic but finger crossed). The government backed loans were due to plug the gap in short term.
There can be genuine issues/concerns ie ventilators, PPE distribution and testing of NHS staff but moaning about everything just dilutes this
Ps companies have got weeks to pull together supporting docs for furloughed scheme and I’d rather have some qualification than just pay out every claim as this is going to cost us all
Deffo good to see, how come Japan and South Korea have done so well?Thought you might like this version of the graph showing new cases, a little more positive and looks like Spain are just hitting the peak:
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Spoke too soon. Despite being busier than ever, did an extra 4 hours unpaid yesterday to try and keep up with the workload, and classed as keyworkers as we support medical facilites and food producers among others just been told that Friday will be my last day before being furloughed.Yeah everybody wants it and infrastructure now they are working from home
Still think a UBI would have been simpler and more effective
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