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I want Grendel to step in for PM
I want Grendel to step in for PMI am now stepping in as PM
The Communication is his Sphere .But if the advisors get it wrong then how is that solely Boris' fault? Last time I checked Boris doesn't have a PhD and therefore does not have the expertise to make sole decisions on how to tackle a pandemic - that is left to the experts.
Therefore on such matters he may have to take the recommendations from the relevant advisors more literally. Yes Boris is the decision maker, and as I've said for the umpteenth time, if you would've read my posts you would've seen that as a result of being PM he has to take a proportion of the blame as he is the decision maker and unfortunately that is part and parcel of the job description. But if you are inferring that exempts either Cummings or Vallance then with the greatest respect your own political bias has blinded you.
Boris hasn't dealt with it well - I think that's a pretty well-established opinion amongst most. But people are forgetting that his advisors are also the ones that pushed to play guinea pig with the country's population. All should be held to account not just Boris.
But if the advisors get it wrong then how is that solely Boris' fault? Last time I checked Boris doesn't have a PhD and therefore does not have the expertise to make sole decisions on how to tackle a pandemic - that is left to the experts.
Therefore on such matters he may have to take the recommendations from the relevant advisors more literally. Yes Boris is the decision maker, and as I've said for the umpteenth time, if you would've read my posts you would've seen that as a result of being PM he has to take a proportion of the blame as he is the decision maker and unfortunately that is part and parcel of the job description. But if you are inferring that exempts either Cummings or Vallance then with the greatest respect your own political bias has blinded you.
Boris hasn't dealt with it well - I think that's a pretty well-established opinion amongst most. But people are forgetting that his advisors are also the ones that pushed to play guinea pig with the country's population. All should be held to account not just Boris.
But if the advisors get it wrong then how is that solely Boris' fault? Last time I checked Boris doesn't have a PhD and therefore does not have the expertise to make sole decisions on how to tackle a pandemic - that is left to the experts.
Therefore on such matters he may have to take the recommendations from the relevant advisors more literally. Yes Boris is the decision maker, and as I've said for the umpteenth time, if you would've read my posts you would've seen that as a result of being PM he has to take a proportion of the blame as he is the decision maker and unfortunately that is part and parcel of the job description. But if you are inferring that exempts either Cummings or Vallance then with the greatest respect your own political bias has blinded you.
Boris hasn't dealt with it well - I think that's a pretty well-established opinion amongst most. But people are forgetting that his advisors are also the ones that pushed to play guinea pig with the country's population. All should be held to account not just Boris.
Who made the decision?.
Yeah but cuddly old Boris. He’s a lad ain’t he? Be nice. He looks so tired.
"Yes but imagine Corbyn and Abbott in charge..." but it turns out they're not really in charge after all
Put it this way. The entire planet knew that herd immunity was crackpot science. It has never been achieved before in the history of humanity without a vaccine. The WHO were openly critical of our approach. No other country aside from Holland tried it, and they failed. We knew what was coming, and most experts knew our strategy would fail.
Are you saying he was right to take the recommendation of Cummings' pals, and cannot be blamed for doing so? I do agree with you 100%, there are serious fucking questions for all of them. But the can, ultimately stops with Boris, he should have known that he was being spun a yarn with herd immunity.
Exactly so surely that proves Cummings and Vallance are just as inept as Boris is? Granted Boris is the decision maker and by pushing the herd immunity decision through that shows he clearly isn't challenging his own advisors. Which to be honest is proved in previous statements where he's repeated stressed the importance of maintaining trust in our scientific strategy in the attempts to tackle the virus - as well as going ahead despite criticisms/warnings from other countries and the WHO. You know I'm not saying he was right, once again you're pulling assumptions out of thin air. What I am saying it it's not his direct fault our 'science' is well off the mark compared to other countries.
Boris will probably receive the proportion of the blame once the dust has settled as history rarely remembers those in the background but those who claim Vallance and Cummings have simply 'just played a part in the process'. Well lets just say we'll agree to disagree as on that matter.
I think I’m now happy to say not locking things down quicker was a mistake by our country.
I still think we are okay regarding that The Athletic can be a bit sensational and I can’t see Liverpool being denied the Prem title which I’m sure will help us, Leeds and others, but I do have a concern, our ground position, been no talk on that for a while but who knows what the future holds with going to St Andrews again or even if the EFL allowed us to go up with no home ground. It needs sorting a.s.a.p.David Ornstein has written an article in The Athletic suggesting that here's a growing appetite for the Premier League season to be voided on "moral grounds". Wankers
And he is not in charge.Who hired Cummings and put him basically in charge? He’s not a civil servant is he?
Johnson has the virus-just confirmed
And he is not in charge.
technically classed as a temporary "civil servant" and paid by central govt.Who hired Cummings and put him basically in charge? He’s not a civil servant is he?
Neither have I. But love to meet the one who nicked the alloys off my car years ago and left my car on bricks.I wouldn’t, haven’t met a Scouser I didn’t like
Neither have I. But love to meet the one who nicked the alloys off my car years ago and left my car on bricks.
Know the feeling. Your kids are your life. Miss mine but they miss me more. And will be months before they see me again.Yea whatsapp video calls etc. Just difficult to stomach as since the relationship breakdown 4 years ago I've had them religiously from Friday evening until Sunday evening. Already pacing the house like a spare fart not knowing what to do with myself.
I know its for the best, but just hard to stomach.
Biggest thing thats starting to get me now is i was one of the ones who received a season ticket from the crowdfunding, and our main activity is to get up to St Andrews and support. That as we know is not doable at the moment. Came to terms with losing the football at the moment as i still saw the kids. Now they aren't able to come for the foreseeable, its made things feel shite.
Apologies for the rant, just unreal how much you can miss something that felt as simple as going to watch the city with your children. When you cant it's just crap
Did he have the capacity to start with?Not according to the statement. Think it'll only be if Boris is incapacitated
Is staying put a less attractive option? I’m in Bahrain - but have wife and kids here with me.Including myself trying to get back to the U.K.
Not that this government in anyway tries to be accountable, but, won't the entire cabinet need to self isolate now? Has he really got it?
Not exactly true though. Should we have left everyone without income and locked down before financial measures were put in place?Yes but it was understandable when you had people on TV saying it was right, that doesn't make you look daft by any means at all.
There are people on here that to this day will refuse to confirm that it was the wrong thing to do, they do look a bit daft though.
Carry on?Hopefully Boris can recover quickly and carry on becoming a great PM
Hopefully Boris can recover quickly and carry on becoming a great PM
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Is Spain approaching peak of its outbreak?
Spaniards have seen the daily number of deaths rise from 462 at the start of the week, to 769 in the past 24 hours. The latest figure is the highest in one day so far, and brings the total since the outbreak began to 4,858.
But top health official Fernando Simón is holding out hope that the numbers could soon start going down, saying the latest figures "indicate little by little the possible arrival at the peak". Around one in seven of the 64,059 Spanish cases is listed as recovered, and there's been a big rise in the past 24 hours.
This health ministry graph illustrates the spread of Covid-19 across Spain.The green bar shows those who have recovered, the pale blue highlights the number in hospital, the yellow those in intensive care and the red the growth in fatalities.
You don’t have to isolate if you’ve been in contact with someone in the workplace, only household...
Was checking this after finding out some of my colleagues are in hospital.
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When did he startHopefully Boris can recover quickly and carry on becoming a great PM
You don’t have to isolate if you’ve been in contact with someone in the workplace, only household...
Was checking this after finding out some of my colleagues are in hospital.
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Is that your employer's logic? That is pretty disgusting
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