clint van damme
Well-Known Member
they've cancelled Haj though haven't they?
There have no flights in or out for the past 10 days from any country. The country is on a serious lockdown and is scheduled to last another eleven days.
I believe there is a desire to open for Ramadan to get the pilgrims to Mecca so hopefully that will open the skies.
What most may not know is that Saudi Arabia is the number 1 tourist destination in the world for religious reasons and the country relies on that income nearly as much as oil which is diminishing in both quantities and importance.!
Umrah cancelled as well but they are hoping that this lockdown will mean they can open for Ramadan last week of Aprilthey've cancelled Haj though haven't they?
Not an answer, but we'll go with it.
Boris Johnson selects his team. He chooses which advice to follow. He has a duty to challenge his advisors where he feels something is not in the public interest. He is responsible for the wellbeing of 67 million people. He has to be judicious in selecting what path to follow and the expectation is that he makes his choices based on all available expertise and evidence from all sources.
He singularly failed to do any of this.
The buck stops with him, he is the man in the chair, he is responsible.
Stop with the "anti Tory rhetoric" nonsense, this is "anti incompetent rhetoric"
Well it is an answer because you're claiming I've said something I haven't?
How do you know he hasn't challenged them? Are you in the Corba meetings?
If you'd actually read my post instead of going on yet another one of your rants that reek of illusory superiority, you would have seen I've already stated that he's probably
listened to his advisors too much and that he does have a duty to take initiative on such matters. So you've just actually agreed with what I've said.
That's your opinion but it's far too black and white so I simply can't agree with you on that.
Yeah you're not too good at this with your "Corba" meetings and semantic gymnastics, but ok.
I don't care about politics, hate it in fact, but I do prefer to apportion responsibility to the right people instead of making excuses- best thing here is you carry on doing what you do and we agree to disagree, its all good.
I don't particularly like politics either - certainly not in its current form as I believe there's very few that have the best interests of the country top of mind and are simply in politics to further their careers. Hence why voting in the general election for me, as I'm sure it was for many, was painful as it was essentially making a decision on the lesser evil.
So I wouldn't say I'm particularly partisan but I will back Boris' corner when people try to push their own political agenda's by claiming he's solely responsible for pushing herd immunity as the blame should rightly be shared. That's not making excuses that's perfectly reasonable as the last time I checked we don't live under a dictatorship and therefore other people have to be held to account.
Nope just a real bitchIs the country run by a woman?
I don't particularly like politics either - certainly not in its current form as I believe there's very few that have the best interests of the country top of mind and are simply in politics to further their careers. Hence why voting in the general election for me, as I'm sure it was for many, was painful as it was essentially making a decision on the lesser evil.
So I wouldn't say I'm particularly partisan but I will back Boris' corner when people try to push their own political agenda's by claiming he's solely responsible for pushing herd immunity, as the blame should rightly be shared. That's not making excuses that's perfectly reasonable as the last time I checked we don't live under a dictatorship and therefore other people also have to be held to account.
"I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody, you will be pleased to know, and I continue to shake hands," he said. "People obviously can make up their own minds but I think the scientific evidence is… our judgement is that washing your hands is the crucial thing."
The Prime Minister is no longer ultimately responsible for ministerial decisions, OK then
Granted I'll agree that Boris' hesitancy to act in implementing draconian measures sooner will inevitably cost lives but to solely blame him for pushing herd immunity is questionable to say the least. Surely the blame for that ridiculous battle plan against the virus should be against Patrick Vallace? Realistically it's not in Boris' remit to oppose scientific advise as he's no more qualified to do that than you or I. To suggest otherwise IMO just highlights people's bias against him.
Jesus, we move from Johnson to Raab, Britannia Unchained Raab.....
Oh dear another one that doesn't get the point.
Jesus, we move from Johnson to Raab, Britannia Unchained Raab.....
Ffs we're fucked nowJesus, we move from Johnson to Raab, Britannia Unchained Raab.....
Johnson has the virus-just confirmed
So Dominic Raab is now PM for a while
knew he and Merkel were at it on the quietJohnson has the virus-just confirmed
I am now stepping in as PM
I am now stepping in as PM
I think some members called inNot that this government in anyway tries to be accountable, but, won't the entire cabinet need to self isolate now? Has he really got it?
Not that this government in anyway tries to be accountable, but, won't the entire cabinet need to self isolate now? Has he really got it?
Some people are properly mental aren't they? Makes this place look sane!
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He reminds me of that old wet actor .Jesus, we move from Johnson to Raab, Britannia Unchained Raab.....
Being PM means balancing medical, scientific, economic, moral and political concerns and advice. You don’t just do what you’re told by “the expert”. Advisors advise and ministers decide as the saying goes.
Otherwise what’s the point of a PM?
People seem to think it’s just some jolly bloke who you could drink a pint with like voting on Love Island or something. It’s a ridiculously tough job with serious consequences and that’s why you should elect serious, capable people who are across the detail. Which Johnson isn’t. More importantly neither are any of his cabinet or really back benches. He purged all serious politicians over Brexit ideology.
I'm fucking roaring here!!hahahaha- I love reading that stuff!
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