we've got 2 reasons why our numbers are probably low here.I think one reason the numbers are holding up may be due to a segment of the population acting on their own initiative ahead of official advice.
This was coming down the tracks liike train from mid January.
Of course that may have been negated by the folk who initially ignored recommendations.
How about France?And by the same token, could Italy and Spain have had it worse because they are a bit more huggy/kiss on the cheek types for greetings?
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Because he's a racist twat who hates this country.
News coming out today not so positive though. They are now fearing a second wave.Yes the tubes and bars are crowded - especially the bars in the underground - actual lack of physical contact may be more significant than we thought. Latin America (so I assume Spain as well) is the opposite - men and women invade your space and are always hugging and embracing
Here kissing on both cheeks close friends the norm - male and female.How about France?
When my lad started school there he refused to do their traditional greeting. 'I'm not kissing my teacher twice all the time' he said. They were astonished when they found out teachers in the UK don't greet their pupils with a kiss on both cheeks.....
I agree.
Look at San Marino and Andorra. The per capita still impacts on the community but there would be a bigger impact on London of course. The London rate is probably going to have a steep climb. I will be more concerned about London hitting San Marino figures although the population may have similar concentration of people.
It is constant Boris attacks.Seeing as you’re not being xenophobic with that I will honour you with an answer. I don’t remember that but maybe you’re right. But having now studied and modelled all of the various schemes, it is a fact that they are not what they appear to be. By a long stretch. And like I said before, they’re rushing this through in 3 weeks when it would normally take a year, so it’s not a complete pop at them, but this is not the “assistance” people think it is.
Especially when BBQ's are involved.The same can also be said for some of our diverse groups in Coventry. If nothing else I now realise a lot of people don’t know what 2 metres is. Interesting that the Dutch are advised to stay 1.5 metres away from each other.
They really should have cancelled Cheltenham races.i think this is right. The official advice was so bad and the evidence from elsewhere so stark, a lot of people took it upon themselves to do the right thing. There was even uproar when football stopped before any kind of government info was rolled out, but they sure got it right.
So there shouldn't be any difference between a small country that has 10,000 cases of infection against a large country that has 20,000 cases of infection?Hitting is the key word. Once all this is over per cap stats will be useful but in terms of seeing where each country is in the initial stages of an outbreak and how well they’re controlling spread absolute numbers are best.
When his teachers found out they were happy just to shake his hand.Here kissing on both cheeks close friends the norm - male and female.
Handshaking with everyone - had one worker used to shake my hand everytime he saw during the day 6/7 times a day.
Anyone you have any sort of relationship with - personal or work - you are expected to greet this way when you meet and when you leave.
It is constant Boris attacks.
And those who do the constant Boris attacks will not say how earlier they would have done lockdown. Because then you would have to consider what would have been in place financially for those affected. Also you would have had hardly any cases for the NHS whilst we would have gone into financial meltdown.
Then you get some who make up the rules on how we should be compared to other countries. They must be right....
To me the most telling is how the other political parties have hardly had a go at the Tories. What surprised me the most is how the expats that have been affected the most by Brexit actually praise the way the situation has been handled in the UK.
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It is constant Boris attacks.
And those who do the constant Boris attacks will not say how earlier they would have done lockdown. Because then you would have to consider what would have been in place financially for those affected. Also you would have had hardly any cases for the NHS whilst we would have gone into financial meltdown.
Then you get some who make up the rules on how we should be compared to other countries. They must be right....
To me the most telling is how the other political parties have hardly had a go at the Tories. What surprised me the most is how the expats that have been affected the most by Brexit actually praise the way the situation has been handled in the UK.
When his teachers found out they were happy just to shake his hand.
Can you imagine if a teacher tried to kiss every child at a school in the UK? Their first day would be their last.
I've actually given Boris some praise, though mixed in with criticism which I think is valid.
What I'm not letting go of is how under prepared we are and how 10 years of Tory government has left us more vulnerable than we should be in this situation.
People saying now isn't the time, well I'm sorry, now is deci itely the time,If for no other reason than to spur them into action.
We have 6 ICU beds per 100,000 to Germany's 29.
We have ICU staff without PPE or been asked to share PPE.
We have a shortage of ventilators even though the government were warned in 2016.
It's not good enough.
It is noticable that the narrative is already being prepared- "now isn't the time for talking about this".
I haven't denied anything.I know, who would have thought it- people badly cock up and other people call them out for it. Disgraceful.
Flippancy apart, there is no possible way to defend the herd immunity fiasco. You just can't. You also can't deny that the lack of resources was a disgrace- although to be balanced nobody knew that a pandemic was on the way.
But its wrong to say that people who made catastrophic mistakes should be given a free pass. Had it been Corbyn or any of the others then they also would have had to face the consequences of their actions.
Is that so they can light each other's reefers?The same can also be said for some of our diverse groups in Coventry. If nothing else I now realise a lot of people don’t know what 2 metres is. Interesting that the Dutch are advised to stay 1.5 metres away from each other.
Yep, that's the bit I do think is fair to point out. Of course some of usWhat I'm not letting go of is how under prepared we are and how 10 years of Tory government has left us more vulnerable than we should be in this situation.
Top form!!Is that so they can light each other's reefers?
I haven't denied anything.
So what have they done wrong? What should they have done instead? If it was lockdown earlier then hiw much earlier should it have been? Were they wrong to advise on social distancing whilst putting financial plans together? Or should they have just shut the UK and left everyone in the shite?
It is easy to say what they have done wrong. But those who keep saying that they have done it wrong never come out with a plan that covers financial matters.
So as I keep asking......what should we have done differently.Part of that is there seems to be a clear line between those who are only focussing on the human aspect, and those who prioritise the financial/ economic aspect. Trump is clearly at one end of that spectrum... To nail my colours to the mast, I'm on the human aspect side of things- and even though I know it won't happen, would love to see the 'humanists' win out, whatever the cost, and then there be a rethink of the way society operates in general, because as long as we have systems that promote inequality and accumulation of wealth as the ultimate life goal, we will never, ever be prepared for anything like this. Society is already designed to kill people enough as it is, without a lethal pandemic coming along and helping push that along. Wishful thinking, but its what should happen.
As for lockdown- my beef was always with the flawed & subsequently disproved science around herd immunity which wasted so much time, compounded by the wishy washy communication- the very second we realised what was about to hit us we should have taken serious action and protected people, instead of pissing around.
Yep, that's the bit I do think is fair to point out. Of course some of ushave been saying this for years too.
What I am worried about is that afterwards. NHS funding will be increased at the expense of so-called non-essential services. We really, really need to start to learn that you get what you pay for, and accept that might mean paying a bit more tax to improve all of our standards of living.
So as I keep asking......what should we have done differently.
Which raises the question when is? Its quite funny seeing people who think we shouldn't ask questions of the government and 'pull together like we did in the war'. Have they forgotten that Chamberlain had to resign?It is noticable that the narrative is already being prepared- "now isn't the time for talking about this".
ThisI've actually given Boris some praise, though mixed in with criticism which I think is valid.
What I'm not letting go of is how under prepared we are and how 10 years of Tory government has left us more vulnerable than we should be in this situation.
People saying now isn't the time, well I'm sorry, now is deci itely the time,If for no other reason than to spur them into action.
We have 6 ICU beds per 100,000 to Germany's 29.
We have ICU staff without PPE or been asked to share PPE.
We have a shortage of ventilators even though the government were warned in 2016.
It's not good enough.
Which raises the question when is? Its quite funny seeing people who think we shouldn't ask questions of the government and 'pull together like we did in the war'. Have they forgotten that Chamberlain had to resign?
What we shouldn't have is cheap shots and point scoring, but then we need to address that issue when we're not in crisis as well, but there's no reason questions should stop being asked.
For example on the radio this morning it was being questioned why the government have turned down opportunities to acquire respirators from existing manufacturers and have instead ordered them off JCB and Dyson who coincidentally are both Conservative party donors. Now that might all be above board and easily explained but its a question that needs to be raised and answer as taking it at face value it doesn't look good.
I do, objectively, find the social science genuinely fascinating to see people demanding they're effectively placed under house arrest, with great powers granted to government ahead of its people.
If we're in this state for too long, I might write about it properly
Didn’t the decade of austerity follow the banks fiasco and Labour famously leaving the note on leaving office saying not to bother looking for the money - there isn’t any?This
His pandemic actions have been guided by science but the austerity of the last decade has left in a state where we will hopefully barely scrape through.
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Didn’t the decade of austerity follow the banks fiasco and Labour famously leaving the note on leaving office saying not to bother looking for the money - there isn’t any?
Over here all private hospitals are now public hospitals. No doubt some people are complaining that there was no point paying premiums (in private at least, and I'm not one of them!), however its amazing how at a time of worldwide crisis 'socialist'-type principles are having to bail out 'capitalist'-type principles.
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