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cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,016
fernandopartridge said:
Yes it will. There are tight regulations governing the release of drugs, it isn't just. OK, it's a cure is it? Away you go...
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How will it ? Where’s the proven testing ? The test of time previous years worth of testing ?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,017
chiefdave said:
Is that the best distribution method? Or is it a case of if you can afford one you're ok but if you're skint tough?

Who keeps track of who has had a test if its order it yourself off Amazon. If you're allowing people out of lockdown are you just taking their word for it?
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The government could have them delivered to each household.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,018
Brighton Sky [QUOTE="BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Whereabouts you from Clint? He grew up with some of the lads I knocked about with after school.
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Earlsdon
 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,019
Sadly our deputy ambassador here is reported to have died. He was a nice guy who joked Hungary was a safe change from his previous appointment in Afghanistan. Only 37.
Takes a different turn when you can put a face to one of the casualties.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,020
Great to see this test coming back, once we know the results it will hopefully bring the mortality rate right down, allow them to remodel how the NHS will be able to cope and lift a load of restrictions. I'm not sure just ordering them from Amazon is the right way to go about it though, there should be some medical record.

Nice to know a load of you have been arguing this for 230 pages without the slightest bit of a clue how a virus works, how an antibody works and what the difference is between and antibody test and a vaccine.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,021
Liquid Gold said:
Great to see this test coming back, once we know the results it will hopefully bring the mortality rate right down, allow them to remodel how the NHS will be able to cope and lift a load of restrictions. I'm not sure just ordering them from Amazon is the right way to go about it though, there should be some medical record.

Nice to know a load of you have been arguing this for 230 pages without the slightest bit of a clue how a virus works, how an antibody works and what the difference is between and antibody test and a vaccine.
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We’re all doctors here mate with a couple of scientists & MP’s thrown in...

Didn’t you know ?
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,022
I see from the sample that was the cruise ship stuck in Japan the figure is currently 1.4% from what is largely an aged sample.
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,023
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The government could have them delivered to each household.
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Boris on his bike?
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,024
Otis said:
National League to void season due to coronavirus outbreak

That doesn't make sense does it? They say null and void, but then talk about who will be promoted and relegated.

That's not what null and void means. I think they mean the rest of the season's fixtures don't they?

Or have I read that wrong?
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I've always understood null and void as to have never had happened. If a contract is voided it's as if the contract never existed.
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,025
cc84cov said:
We’re all doctors here mate with a couple of scientists & MP’s thrown in...

Didn’t you know ?
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Don't forget football managers
 
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David O'Day

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,026
These daily press briefings are pointless. Endlessly being asked the same answered and pointless questions.

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Mcbean

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,027
Did Connor Chaplin sign yet ?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,028
Speaking of tests

 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,029
Liquid Gold said:
Great to see this test coming back, once we know the results it will hopefully bring the mortality rate right down, allow them to remodel how the NHS will be able to cope and lift a load of restrictions. I'm not sure just ordering them from Amazon is the right way to go about it though, there should be some medical record.

Nice to know a load of you have been arguing this for 230 pages without the slightest bit of a clue how a virus works, how an antibody works and what the difference is between and antibody test and a vaccine.
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Great post on both points. Probably the best on this whole thread.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,030
fernandopartridge said:
The NHS isn't a national health service at all, there is no unified body, just hundreds of Trusts and Foundation Trusts and central purchasing bodies under taking procurement. This is what has led to this scenario.
The Trusts, many of which are in deficit are being told to make significant savings, one of the ways they do it is 'material management' which essentially is minimising stockholding. When something like this comes along the whole thing falls down. The new hospitals have been designed with limited storage space for stock and equipment either. It's a complete fuck up and governments over a long period are culpable for it.
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Yeah, it's 'competition' between the different Trusts with extra funding etc at stake.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,031
clint van damme said:
Trumps cronies, considering they're supposed to be fervently pro life are showing a very wreckless attitude towards people surviving this pandemic if it' means the economy suffering.
Strange bunch.
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They're massively pro-life before a child is born. Then once it is it's back to dog-eat-dog and everyone look after themselves. Make young girls give birth then effectively kick them out and refuse them help with the child because that's a burden on the state and how the girl should have been more responsible. Well, they tried to do the next best responsible thing by terminating a pregnancy of a child they couldn't afford to have. You stopped them .

Right to life also doesn't extend to not being shot. Instead you should have your own gun.

Lunatics the lot of them.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,032
Been reading a few places about this test, and most of them don’t read like it’s the “have you ever had it” test but the “do you have it right now” test which is a different beast altogether. I can’t see this letting people out of lockdown, looks like it’s just home testing. I might be getting confused but the reporting I’m seeing doesn’t match the rhetoric on here.
 

cc84cov

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,033
Mcbean said:
Did Connor Chaplin sign yet ?
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No but Bright has been spotted near Ryton with Carl baker
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,034
Skyblueweeman said:
Great post on both points. Probably the best on this whole thread.
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How so .
All I can see is another example of LG's condescension towards others
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,035
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yeah, it's 'competition' between the different Trusts with extra funding etc at stake.
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More ideological nonsense like Blair has. Even the slightest thought would tell anyone with common sense there’s no such thing as competition in public services.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,036
chiefdave said:
Speaking of tests

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typical of the Conservatives.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,037
wingy said:
How so .
All I can see is another example of LG's condescension towards others
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Rather be full condescending than that pass agg shit.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,038
Amir Khan has turned over a building he has invested in to be a venue and retail outlet to the NHS to use during the pandemic.
Hats off to him. Great gesture.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,039
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If it were transmitted to you, you would destroy it in such a short time as to be no threat to others.
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But if you're out and about it could still be present on you and you spread it via your hands etc onto other surfaces. That is a much lower risk than via coughs etc. though.

IF it were shown that it provided immunity against reinfection it would allow more people to work and reduce the economic (and mental health) impact, but the massive priority must be people's health.

Wonder if they could issue a certificate after a positive anti-body test allowing you to get out, but when doing that still maintain the distancing etc in case others could get it? Undoubtedly would get blackmarket etc producing fake ones though.
 
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wingy

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,040
Liquid Gold said:
Rather be full condescending than that pass agg shit.
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Then crack on .
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,041
You’d expect a lot more noise to be being made if there’s something that’s about to basically end lockdown for millions around the world.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,042
Just said that it's unlikely anything will be available shortly. Needs to be tested first and then they will all go to NHS staff (fair enough). We're still likely to be locked down for a while yet. Hopefully the test work and they get an order in for as many as we need asap.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,043
wingy said:
I find myself surprised continually that the East and West coast states don't do an amexit.
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They are. California esp. Mind you some in California wants to separate itself into two or three different parts.
 

NortonSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,044
tisza said:
Sadly our deputy ambassador here is reported to have died. He was a nice guy who joked Hungary was a safe change from his previous appointment in Afghanistan. Only 37.
Takes a different turn when you can put a face to one of the casualties.
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I met him on a couple of ocassions when he was Riyadh based. Very shocked.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,045
David O'Day said:
These daily press briefings are pointless. Endlessly being asked the same answered and pointless questions.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
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I'm no fan of Johnson or his handling of this but this is a can't win really, people were clamouring for daily updates a week ago and now they're not worth it.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,046
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
They are. California esp. Mind you some in California wants to separate itself into two or three different parts.
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Isn’t the California GDP something ridiculous like the 7th largest economy in the world?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,047
If the West Coast and New England went independent wouldn't the US just be a massive farm?
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,048
Anyone else still going to work and largely unaffected so far aside from the roads being blissfully quiet. Also haven’t got the Mrs nagging me to go somewhere at the weekend.

Aside from the impending sense of doom and worry of course.


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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,049
wingy said:
I find myself surprised continually that the East and West coast states don't do an amexit.
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If I remember correctly some states tried that before
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 25, 2020
  • #8,050
shmmeee said:
Isn’t the California GDP something ridiculous like the 7th largest economy in the world?
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Think it might be as high as 4th or 5th
 
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