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chiefdave

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #561
David O'Day said:
The containment policy seems to be doing okay
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What are we actually doing as part of this policy that we weren't before?
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #562
David O'Day said:
Read what I originally said. I simply used n1h1 as an example of a pathogen that didn't act as usually expected of a flu pandemic.

You jumped on this as you seemed to misunderstand what I actually said.

Say sorry and move on

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Ha ha. We’re going round in circles. My original comment was simply questioning the statement that the warmer weather will reduce things as we simply don’t know yet and those countries that currently have milder weather still seem to have the same (or worse) outbreaks. You then started calling me a clown, a peanut and a bonzo or whatever it was. I mean, your insults are amusing at times, but you can’t really throw your toys out of the pram when someone gives a bit back.

What exactly would you like me to apologise for you spermicidal lubricant?
 
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steve cooper

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #563
skybluesam66 said:
84/85 season as edited in my previous post
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I think that was the year we beat Everton who were champions (one of the 3 we won to stay up)
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #564
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Ha ha. We’re going round in circles. My original comment was simply questioning the statement that the warmer weather will reduce things as we simply don’t know yet and those countries that currently have milder weather still seem to have the same (or worse) outbreaks. You then started calling me a clown, a peanut and a bonzo or whatever it was. I mean, your insults are amusing at times, but you can’t really throw your toys out of the pram when someone gives a bit back.

What exactly would you like me to apologise for you spermicidal lubricant?
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Apologise for jumping in and saying I was comparing the current covid-19 pathogen with n1h1. I did not, I simply said the prevailing view on flu pathogens is they don't survive as well in warmer weather. I just n1h1 as an example of a pathogen that has acted a typical.



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BornSlippySkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #565
David O'Day said:
Apologise for jumping in and saying I was comparing the current covid-19 pathogen with n1h1. I did not, I simply said the prevailing view on flu pathogens is they don't survive as well in warmer weather. I just n1h1 as an example of a pathogen that has acted a typical.



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Nothing I have said warrants an apology so suck eggs.
 

Ring Of Steel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #566
Its quite rare to see Everton 1985 & relegation battles being discussed alongside the N1H1 flu pathogen & mortality rates.
 

Sbarcher

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #567
Well, we can save our Defence budget now. Just send out a few infected kamikaze tourists to the country we want to attack and stand back and let nature take effect. Obviously we need to intensify the strain to catch the young and fit ones, but I'm sure we can get Porton Down on the job.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #568
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Nothing I have said warrants an apology so suck eggs.
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No one likes a bad loser

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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #569
ajsccfc said:
Bloody hell, how are they so far apart?
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I know I was 2000 out
 
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Deleted member 4439

Guest
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #570
ajsccfc said:
Where are those figures from? The Oxford vaccine group estimates an average of 600 per year with extreme years going into the 10000+ figures

Influenza (flu) | Vaccine Knowledge
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Influenza deaths rates for the UK average between 660 to 1.1k per month - see official documentation https://assets.publishing.service.g...tory_viruses_in_the_UK_2018_to_2019-FINAL.pdf
 
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letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #571
Otis said:
Just tell me where you sit, so..

1. I can avoid you

And

2. I can report you.
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Report me lol.
Who's gonna come near me to do anything.
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #572
David O'Day said:
No one likes a bad loser

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Indeed
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #573
David O'Day said:
Apologise for jumping in and saying I was comparing the current covid-19 pathogen with n1h1. I did not, I simply said the prevailing view on flu pathogens is they don't survive as well in warmer weather. I just n1h1 as an example of a pathogen that has acted a typical.



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Just compare it to mers and Sars, both of them died of in the warmer months as you stated, people just like being fancy saying it's not the flu. (It is) just a bit complicated.
 

BornSlippySkyBlue

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #574
Kieranp96 said:
Just compare it to mers and Sars, both of them died of in the warmer months as you stated, people just like being fancy saying it's not the flu. (It is) just a bit complicated.
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Silly doctor
Coronavirus: 'Stop saying it's a bad flu' - Doctor fighting Italy outbreak shares dramatic account
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #575
BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Silly doctor
Coronavirus: 'Stop saying it's a bad flu' - Doctor fighting Italy outbreak shares dramatic account
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Acts like the flu, treated like the flu spreads like the flu, is the flu, just a unvaccinated flu that has a higher than normal mortality rate, swine flu was as bad if not worst.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #576
Kieranp96 said:
Acts like the flu, treated like the flu spreads like the flu, is the flu, just a unvaccinated flu that has a higher than normal mortality rate, swine flu was as bad if not worst.
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Swine Flu and Sars worse much worse however harder to catch
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #577
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Swine Flu and Sars worse much worse however harder to catch
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Swine flu infected far more than co-vid that's why I said bad if not worst. When the world starts warming up or will slowly vanish atleast until next winter.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #578
Kieranp96 said:
Swine flu infected far more than co-vid that's why I said bad if not worst. When the world starts warming up or will slowly vanish atleast until next winter.
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Coronavirus: Worldwide peak will come next winter, scientific model predicts
 
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Jcap

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #579
Coronavirus: Serie A season may not be concluded - FIGC
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #580
Jcap said:
Coronavirus: Serie A season may not be concluded - FIGC
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Such a confusing article, not having a champion but finishing the standings where they are??? Suppose its different for the football league because of promotions/relegation's
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #581
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Coronavirus: Worldwide peak will come next winter, scientific model predicts
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Hopefully that's not the case, and they gain control of it over summer months and work to get a vaccine out.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #582
Kieranp96 said:
Acts like the flu, treated like the flu spreads like the flu, is the flu, just a unvaccinated flu that has a higher than normal mortality rate, swine flu was as bad if not worst.
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It’s not the flu. Influenza is an entirely different virus. They are both contagious and both cause respiratory problems. That’s it.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #583
Kieranp96 said:
Swine flu infected far more than co-vid that's why I said bad if not worst. When the world starts warming up or will slowly vanish atleast until next winter.
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Swine Flu has a mortality rate far far lower than COVID19. Even lower estimates for COVID put it at 50 times as lethal.

It’s the combination of lethality and contagiousness that you use to judge severity not one or the other.
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #584
letsallsingtogether said:
Report me lol.
Who's gonna come near me to do anything.
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Why, you in need of a bath or something?
 

ccfcricoh

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #585
The team are doing well and for once i'm not nervous about us royally cocking it up.... nope instead i'm worried about a bloody cold/flu/illness whatever it is!

I can see games behind closed doors imminently, and the way Italy has acted, i can see postponement of the season all together.

I then have no faith in the EFL to do anything sensible whatsoever!

I'll do what Robins does and take it 1 game at a time and hopefully Saturday goes ahead and i can go and watch it!

2.0 win
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #586
shmmeee said:
Swine Flu has a mortality rate far far lower than COVID19. Even lower estimates for COVID put it at 50 times as lethal.

It’s the combination of lethality and contagiousness that you use to judge severity not one or the other.
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The chances of catching co-vid 19 are far lower than anything else, Italy just released today's numbers 1000 new cases 150 dead there healthcare must be terrible that or they have as lot of elderly people with health issues, let's be real the governments are to blame not closing travel from China when it got slightly out of hand there now everyone else is paying for it, and I know there totally different viruses but they act the same way and are prevented the same way, as soon as Italy have it under control I don't think it will be to bad as sk China and Iran are gaining control.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #587
ccfcricoh said:
The team are doing well and for once i'm not nervous about us royally cocking it up.... nope instead i'm worried about a bloody cold/flu/illness whatever it is!

I can see games behind closed doors imminently, and the way Italy has acted, i can see postponement of the season all together.

I then have no faith in the EFL to do anything sensible whatsoever!

I'll do what Robins does and take it 1 game at a time and hopefully Saturday goes ahead and i can go and watch it!

2.0 win
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If they want to play it behind closed doors they should cast it to Facebook or Twitter so everyone can watch.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #588
There is absolutely nothing unfair about maybe simming the rest of the season based on a form table of how each team has played for autos and relegation.... having said that how would the play offs work
 

ccfcricoh

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #589
Kieranp96 said:
If they want to play it behind closed doors they should cast it to Facebook or Twitter so everyone can watch.
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Absolutely agree, but thats where the EFL doing something sensible comes into it!

If they start streaming it people will then go to pubs etc so people will be gathering anyway!

i have no idea what the answer is, but as each day goes by and the media get slightly more hysterical i can see someone making rash or forced decisions!
 

shmmeee

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #590
Kieranp96 said:
The chances of catching co-vid 19 are far lower than anything else, Italy just released today's numbers 1000 new cases 150 dead there healthcare must be terrible that or they have as lot of elderly people with health issues, let's be real the governments are to blame not closing travel from China when it got slightly out of hand there now everyone else is paying for it, and I know there totally different viruses but they act the same way and are prevented the same way, as soon as Italy have it under control I don't think it will be to bad as sk China and Iran are gaining control.
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They aren’t prevented the same way. We have vaccinations for flu and know a reasonable amount about it. We aren’t even sure right now whether you can catch COVID twice or whether you build an immunity to it. We know seasonal flu does down after March/April, we are hoping that’s the case for this but don’t know.

You can’t just close off travel from China at the drop of a hat. Do you realise who makes most of our stuff? Our economy would grind to a halt in days.

China and Iran are two of the most oppressive regimes on the planet. If they couldn’t slow it them frankly western liberal democracies stand no chance. But just because they could doesn’t mean we can the same way.
 

ccfcricoh

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #591
SkyBlueDom26 said:
There is absolutely nothing unfair about maybe simming the rest of the season based on a form table of how each team has played for autos and relegation.... having said that how would the play offs work
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Easy to say that when were top though i think.

Wycombe could feel incredibly hard done by if Oxford got in playoffs above them, seeing as though they have been in the playoffs all season (pretty much), oxford only just, but based on recent form Oxford have been better. There'll always be some people kicking off with whatever the decision is!
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #592
shmmeee said:
They aren’t prevented the same way. We have vaccinations for flu and know a reasonable amount about it. We aren’t even sure right now whether you can catch COVID twice or whether you build an immunity to it. We know seasonal flu does down after March/April, we are hoping that’s the case for this but don’t know.

You can’t just close off travel from China at the drop of a hat. Do you realise who makes most of our stuff? Our economy would grind to a halt in days.

China and Iran are two of the most oppressive regimes on the planet. If they couldn’t slow it them frankly western liberal democracies stand no chance. But just because they could doesn’t mean we can the same way.
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Like I have said compare co-vid 19 to SARS and mers both Corona viruses of the past and they both died off in the summer months, evidence has come.oit of China all but 2 of there makeshift hospitals have closed, everyone has returned to work, give it a few weeks and Italy will be in the same situation, in not completely ignoring the virus but I think it's being somewhat exaggerated.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #593
ccfcricoh said:
Easy to say that when were top though i think.

Wycombe could feel incredibly hard done by if Oxford got in playoffs above them, seeing as though they have been in the playoffs all season (pretty much), oxford only just, but based on recent form Oxford have been better. There'll always be some people kicking off with whatever the decision is!
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How would they, if its based on form? That means that most deserving teams would be in the play offs
 
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Kieranp96

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #594
shmmeee said:
They aren’t prevented the same way. We have vaccinations for flu and know a reasonable amount about it. We aren’t even sure right now whether you can catch COVID twice or whether you build an immunity to it. We know seasonal flu does down after March/April, we are hoping that’s the case for this but don’t know.

You can’t just close off travel from China at the drop of a hat. Do you realise who makes most of our stuff? Our economy would grind to a halt in days.

China and Iran are two of the most oppressive regimes on the planet. If they couldn’t slow it them frankly western liberal democracies stand no chance. But just because they could doesn’t mean we can the same way.
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On the economy, we will go into a recession now anyway with or without closing travel, markets yesterday almost collapsed causing the NYSE to halt all stocks.
 

fellatio_Martinez

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2020
  • #595
If the football league decides to abandon this season and start a fresh next season it would be quite unfortunate for us wouldn't it?
 
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